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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 06:46 PM Sep 2013

For Obama, Political Pressure Over Summers Marks Latest Fissure With Democratic Dase

WASHINGTON — Once again, President Barack Obama has been forced to abandon a friend and ally he wanted to nominate for a top job.

But this time, the resistance that pushed Lawrence Summers to withdraw from consideration for Federal Reserve chairman came from Obama's own Democratic base, not the conservatives who fought against him nominating Susan Rice as secretary of state. The opposition to Summers came at the end of a summer that also exposed other fissures between the White House and Democrats, many of whom are frustrated by revelations about the Obama administration's secret government spying programs and the president's support for military action in Syria.

"Most of the members of the Democratic caucus have a lot of respect and affection for the president but I do believe there is growing concern about his political judgment," Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent who caucuses with the Democrats, said in an interview.

For Obama, any weakening of support within his own party could portend trouble to come for his second-term agenda. Because he already faces stiff resistance from Republicans to most of his policy proposals, the White House often needs to secure nearly every Democratic vote to pass Obama-backed legislation. And soon the president may come calling on Democrats to take tough votes during the fall fiscal fights, particularly if he makes concessions to Democrats on entitlement reform and spending cuts.

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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
1. Good. The Dems have taken their base for granted far too long.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 07:29 PM
Sep 2013

If that trend is ending, it's nothing but good news for the country.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
2. If he makes concessions to Democrats?
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 07:32 PM
Sep 2013

that has to be a misprint. His problems with Democrats will stem from concessions to republicans on entitlements and spending cuts.

Cha

(297,155 posts)
4. Yeah Yeah.. Poor President Obama whine whine whine..
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 09:18 PM
Sep 2013

OTOH.. The fucking pundits always underestimate him.. rats in a maze are smarter.

"Depending on who you ask, President Obama is either brilliant or “lucky” in regards to how the situation is Syria played out, but a new Pew poll shows that a plurality of Americans believe the president displayed leadership by not rushing into war.

Overall, more Americans (49%) say that in handling the situation in Syria, Obama has shown leadership and a willingness to adapt to changing circumstances. Fewer (35%) say he’s shown weakness and inconsistency. Far more Democrats (72%) than Republicans (26%) or independents (46%) say Obama has shown leadership in dealing with Syria."


http://bobcesca.thedailybanter.com/blog-archives/2013/09/leadership-3.html

h/t sheshe http://www.democraticunderground.com/110216501

"Public Backs Diplomatic Approach in Syria, But Distrusts Syria and Russia"



http://www.people-press.org/2013/09/16/public-backs-diplomatic-approach-in-syria-but-distrusts-syria-and-russia/

the ol h/t http://theobamadiary.com/2013/09/16/news-of-the-day-26/

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
5. What these firebaggers like Sanders need to understand is these fake "Democrats" are not his base,
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:08 PM
Sep 2013

they are really mostly (nearly all in fact) libertarians registered as Democrats that only voted for him to advance a master plan the goal of which is to "bring him down" because ODS.

Their end game after bringing down the best President of all time (past and future) is to finally herald a new administration with a Rand as president (whom they love almost as much as Putin).

They are clever and embedded (many of them operating sleeper cells of so called "Democrats" for 30 or even up to 60 years).

Real Democrats like Obama, Baucus, anyone named Nelson, Rahm Emanuel, Lieberman (before the firebaggers forced him to run as a party of one) and Ed Rendel are under constant attack by racist libertarians that cleverly vote for Democrats as a cover and who must be destroyed.

Their plot also includes discrediting great thinkers - true progressive thinkers like Milton Friedman and collaborative progressive thinkers like Will Marshall, Al From and others who were so pragmatic that they got an incredibly smart billionaire set of brothers named Koch to help fund their DLC. If billionaires as brilliant as they backed their progressive plans, all I can say is they were top notch geniuses that had been working since the eighties to bring us a Democratic utopia of REAL liberal policies and we MUST carry their torch onward into the future.

The conspiracy runs so deep, that the only way to be sure of backing true Democrats is to check to make sure they are connected to the third way think tank, the progressive policy institute, are former DLC alumni, or in the case of posters on this site - Boggers in good standing with the group.

We true Democrats must have Obama's back no matter what he says or does!

We are NOT frustrated by revelations about the Obama administration's secret government spying programs or the president's support for military action in Syria and we support visionaries such as Summers and that hero Brennan just as we hope to do more for banks and for free trade. We promote kill lists and indefinite detention without rights because all these things are the true Democratic agenda and are all attempts to further the interests of the common working man and his right to be allowed to lose rights and job security. We want these things for our lessers because we love them and have their backs and know what's best for them.

If what is best for them is to reduce their earned benefits like SS and Medicare when they are whinny old farts that can't earn money for their betters anymore, we will support such cuts BECAUSE we love them and want to help them find ways not to be the useless takers that they are. The same for the poor that claim that cutting programs like food stamps will hurt them, in the reality based world if they are not hungry and useful to their betters then we have failed to help them find the bliss in working three min wage jobs to help an economy that is wisely designed to funnel cash to the only people with the ability to trickle success down upon them. I mean, how can we help them if we don't help the rich that may decide to help them at some point eventually?

In conclusion, 99.9% of true Democrats support President Obama on everything all the time and those that do not provide such complete and trusting blind support are not really Democrats or "the base", but rather ODS racist libertarians with an agenda going back to the days of that 'bagger FDR.

Obama's true base loves him, support his every decision 100% and always will, do not believe the lies of the firebagging Putin lovers that not only never really loved him but actually hate him and always will because ODS and their worship of Randian libertarianism.

We need to stick together and go on the attack against what so many falsely see as his Democratic base, our numbers are small, but we are right, have the best funding, and will win in the end bringing to fruition our Progressive Koch inspired Democratic agenda that was so well articulated by our founding DLC heroes. We pragmatic few, ARE THE ONLY true base!

Lets rally! Lets Win!
Are you with me!!!!?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
6. Um...
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:03 AM
Sep 2013


Seriously, you lost all credibility at "Real Democrats like Obama, Baucus, anyone named Nelson, Rahm Emanuel, Lieberman (before the firebaggers forced him to run as a party of one) and Ed Rendel(sic)"

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
7. If you don't understand how to support the party like we do, then your anti-Obama agenda is showing
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:10 AM
Sep 2013

I believe Libertarian is the third party you appear to be searching for.

I believe this picture actually belongs to you, I'm a LOYAL Democrat!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. Um.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:22 AM
Sep 2013

No. See, I actually support a liberal agenda.

If you're supporting Liberman or Emanuel...you're the one whose agenda includes RW positions. Blindly following laundry off a cliff doesn't make you a Democrat. It merely makes you someone who lacks the discernment to know when they've been fed a load of baloney.

Edit: IMO you're use of "firebaggers" warrants a tombstone, so I'll be blocking you. It's environmentally friendly and it's just as good as a banning because either way, you no longer exist to me.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
11. I have the agenda down well enough to join a club I was recently banned from
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 01:02 AM
Sep 2013

I have it down so well, even Chan above saw me as the legit true Democratic supporter I claim to be!

I am ready to submit my resume to Cass Robert Sunstein so that I may earn money and respect from the REAL Democrats, the ones that support every Republican the President is fond of in positions of power he of course wishes to appoint them to. I will post 7 days a week for a straight salary.

I will submit with my Resume an essay on how the Chicago school of economics holds the key to the generation of perpetual wealth and Keynesian schemers just want to give hand outs to bums thus interfering with the perfectly natural cleansing die outs associated with Darwinism, the best kind of Darwinism is social Darwinism and to interfere with some perfectly natural class based extinctions brought on by laziness is anti-science - (it is a very good essay.)

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
13. TWM? Yes, I see him sometimes at the meetings held in Mass., I like the cut of his jib
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:33 AM
Sep 2013

A good, solid, reality based Democrat. He is a man that truly understands the sensible need for incremental change towards the right so that with pragmatic baby steps we can win the undecided middle right and moderate Republican voters. We both agree that winning elections requires corporate donations and collaboration with what we see in those voters as our future expanded base.

The ship of state is so large that only fanatical fools on the fringe left would try to steer in the opposite direction and would likely only succeed in capsizing the ship if they got their way. The sensible thing to do, we believe, is obviously keep steering right until right becomes left, collecting the donations to be found in the open ports of call on our way through those beautiful rightward seas. As pragmatists we both realize that we need that money to keep winning elections and doing our good work.

We don't really hang out, but I admire his clear thinking and unwavering dedication to the cause of the true new Democratic party.

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