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OLDMDDEM

(1,572 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 10:37 AM Dec 2013

If a zygote is a person, like the right wants to think

Can that zygote be taken as a dependent on your income tax return? All that would be required is a name and social security number of the zygote. If it is challenged in tax court and you lose due to the court saying that zygote is not a person, can you then challenge it in a higher court thru Citizen's United. A zygote is more of a person than a corporation is a person. A corporation does not file a personal income tax return like a normal person does, nor was it conceived as humans are conceived, therefore, based upon a corporation not being a zygote or a human that files a personal income tax return, a corporation would appear to not be a person and therefore, not be allowed the right of free speech.

Any thoughts?

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If a zygote is a person, like the right wants to think (Original Post) OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 OP
Sperm cells and egg cells will be called 'people' next shenmue Dec 2013 #1
The worst part... mockmonkey Dec 2013 #9
For Republicans, life begins at conception and ends at birth. Scuba Dec 2013 #2
So, does that mean a woman can claim twelve dependents a year -- IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #3
No, because they would put her in prison for mass murder, for not doing what is necessary (icky sex) RC Dec 2013 #4
What about claiming them for welfare benefits? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2013 #5
there are already prenatal welfare programs for Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #6
I think this is a great idea OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #10
Applying for an SSN requires a birth date. jeff47 Dec 2013 #7
According to right wing thinking OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #8
No, that's conception date. They'd still have a birth date. jeff47 Dec 2013 #11
you make a good point OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #12
sperm are people too greymattermom Dec 2013 #13
sperm are people too OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #14

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
1. Sperm cells and egg cells will be called 'people' next
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 10:52 AM
Dec 2013

For instance, we all have countless tiny 'people' living in our hoo-has.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. For Republicans, life begins at conception and ends at birth.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 10:56 AM
Dec 2013

Resurrection comes via incorporation.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
4. No, because they would put her in prison for mass murder, for not doing what is necessary (icky sex)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:10 AM
Dec 2013

for those future "little people" to developed and grow into real babies, which when born, they can then ignore, while punishing the women for obviously enjoying herself too much.

It doesn't have to make sense, we are talking about Conservatives here now.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
5. What about claiming them for welfare benefits?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:40 AM
Dec 2013

The right- who vociferously opposes government assistance programs- might not (probably doesn't) completely grasp all of the implications of their push for personhood for products of conception.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
6. there are already prenatal welfare programs for
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:58 AM
Dec 2013

Women who are with child. Prenatal care is good for the baby

OLDMDDEM

(1,572 posts)
10. I think this is a great idea
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:36 PM
Dec 2013

The right has no idea what they are leading this into. All it takes is someone younger than me that has a family young enough to be able to have another child and have young children. This way, the theory would be tested by one family. I hope it happens.

OLDMDDEM

(1,572 posts)
8. According to right wing thinking
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:33 PM
Dec 2013

the birthdate of a zygote is at conception. So, once that is determined, that would be the birthdate.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. No, that's conception date. They'd still have a birth date.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:49 PM
Dec 2013

Especially since birth date has a legal definition.

It also marks the date the right-wing stops caring about the person.

OLDMDDEM

(1,572 posts)
12. you make a good point
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:40 PM
Dec 2013

I have known those who only put in "pending" and had their taxes accepted. Maybe that's the route to take. That way the zygote could be a deduction while not having had a social security number. Maybe the same would be true for birthdate. Just put in "pending."

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