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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 04:38 PM Dec 2013

Did Rachel Maddow just take out Christie?

She has been banging the drum on the crazy bridge closure that forced an entire town into grid lock.

Night after night she has laid out the details in a professional and clear way.

Now the NYT is taking an active interest as hearings start to examine what happened.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/14/nyregion/on-lane-closings-christie-says-hell-turn-the-page.html?hp&_r=0

TRENTON — It began with a few orange traffic cones in September, when local access lanes to the George Washington Bridge abruptly closed for four days, gridlocking Fort Lee, N.J.

But after legislative hearings, the resignations of two of his confidants and demands for more answers, the allegation that drivers were made to suffer for the sake of petty political payback has grown into a major irritation for Gov. Chris Christie.

Facing reporters on Friday to announce the resignation of a second close associate in a week, Mr. Christie said the fuss about the two men’s having ordered that lanes leading to the George Washington Bridge be shut — and whether they had done it to punish Fort Lee’s mayor for failing to endorse Mr. Christie — had been “sensationalized".



Can you imagine what would happen if the President (or any Democrat) done anything so petty?

What is so delicious about this is that after a few months this will die down only to be resurrected by Cruz, Rubio and the rest of the crazies.

Its beginning to look a lot like Christmas.
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Did Rachel Maddow just take out Christie? (Original Post) grantcart Dec 2013 OP
This is why we NEED real journalists, not the powdered puffery of "newscasters" and other CTyankee Dec 2013 #1
I Heart Rachel Heather MC Dec 2013 #22
Honestly, they need do very little. Chan790 Dec 2013 #31
Thank you, Rachel.. it seems like it's a real story and not just Cha Dec 2013 #2
Pleeeese let the Rethuglycans nominate Christie. Don't dust him up too much til Warren has at him. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2013 #3
yep, we don't want this to "peak" too soon! CTyankee Dec 2013 #23
Reminds me of Nixon and how his people jumped ship before the big fall. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #28
What I appreciate about the story is that it cuts through the PR image... Salviati Dec 2013 #4
Best description of Christie yet. n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #18
Oh there just has to be mainstreetonce Dec 2013 #5
I think so - he is done elfin Dec 2013 #6
Remember his 'debate' with Biden? QuestForSense Dec 2013 #7
I hope not, I want him to winthe rethug nomination mwrguy Dec 2013 #8
Christie has met his match with Rachel. nevergiveup Dec 2013 #9
Rachel is one of our national treasures. nt passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #10
Is this something not unusual in politics: closing lanes, etc? Pretty 'effed up. tofuandbeer Dec 2013 #11
Remember the famous Clinton "scandal" haircut at LAX. That hung around for years. kairos12 Dec 2013 #12
“sensationalized". Not exactly a denial, not exactly a direct answer. marble falls Dec 2013 #13
Nothing against Rachel, but this was getting traction (at least in NJ) even before her story Jim Lane Dec 2013 #14
yes, it was NJCher Dec 2013 #17
I am sure that is true but she gives it a framing that gives it a grantcart Dec 2013 #20
Absolutely. I didn't hear about it until Rachel. mainer Dec 2013 #25
the money quote from the article wilsonbooks Dec 2013 #15
well, that's lame... CTyankee Dec 2013 #24
Let me tell you about a NJ traffic jam NJCher Dec 2013 #16
No. Doctor_J Dec 2013 #19
I hope so, but I doubt it. joshcryer Dec 2013 #21
"Any democrat" has a different meaning in Chicago. Between mucifer Dec 2013 #26
I can tell you a lots of citizens in the Metro-Area.. Historic NY Dec 2013 #27
I went to the NYTimes link and read the comments to the story. PearliePoo2 Dec 2013 #29
Christie's response is telling. ZX86 Dec 2013 #30

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
1. This is why we NEED real journalists, not the powdered puffery of "newscasters" and other
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 04:55 PM
Dec 2013

celebrity "journalists" who do nothing to expose this crap.

Rachel is doing this country a service. This does NOT look good for Christie.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
22. I Heart Rachel
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 10:06 AM
Dec 2013

I hope she can do this for the next 50 years plus.

My concern is what will the right do to get rid of her? TheyMSNBC has proven to be spineless and does not protect their people when the right attacks.

And Rachel has been knocking out the RW nutjobs one at a time. They have to be waiting like a snake in the grass to attack her

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
31. Honestly, they need do very little.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:56 PM
Dec 2013

MSNBC is owned by Comcast and Comcast is about as conservative as Fox. If Maddow were doing any real harm to the PTB, she'd be Olbermanned.

Thanks FCC, media consolidation is great...nope, no problem with conglomerates dictating agendas or using their news divisions to pad their own interests there.

Cha

(297,146 posts)
2. Thank you, Rachel.. it seems like it's a real story and not just
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:26 PM
Dec 2013

"crazy" talk like Christie was saying. Two of his aides have resigned. Why would you resign if there was nothing there?

thanks grant!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Pleeeese let the Rethuglycans nominate Christie. Don't dust him up too much til Warren has at him.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:39 PM
Dec 2013

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
4. What I appreciate about the story is that it cuts through the PR image...
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:44 PM
Dec 2013

... that Christie is trying to manufacture for himself, and shows him for the self aggrandizing petty bully that he so obviously* is.

(* Obvious that is, to anyone who was able to see through the BS that the media was also trying to sell us about Shrub back in the day)

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
5. Oh there just has to be
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:57 PM
Dec 2013

A ton of skeletons in that huge closet.

If he's in NJ politics he!'s got "family" connections.
Bada bing

elfin

(6,262 posts)
6. I think so - he is done
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:04 PM
Dec 2013

Too bad. I think he would have been more easily defeated than (the fix is in) Ryan, who despite his deplorable "policies" seems so acceptable thanks to lazy media. Notice that the latest "bipartisan" agreement hardly ever mentions Patty Murray in the article headlines, even in the Times.

On the ever accessible surface, he seems so earnest, reasonable, Midwestern, even tempered - even though Ayn Rand nutso.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
7. Remember his 'debate' with Biden?
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:30 PM
Dec 2013

He fell apart in short order. Don't worry too much about him; his ideas are as empty as his eyes. He's just a tall, dark dummy in a nice suit, with a big nose and a glass jaw.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
14. Nothing against Rachel, but this was getting traction (at least in NJ) even before her story
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 07:53 PM
Dec 2013

It was back in October that the chair of the relevant committee in the Assembly said he would hold a hearing. That hearing actually went ahead on November 25, which I think was the first time we heard this "traffic study" excuse. It was December 6 when the first Christie flunkie resigned, and December 9 when the Port Authority's Executive Director said he wasn't aware of any such traffic study.

Full timeline here.

Of course, Rachel's picking it up helps bring it to the attention of many people outside New Jersey.

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)
15. the money quote from the article
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 07:55 PM
Dec 2013

Still, at the end of the news conference, in which he named a former prosecutor and close aide of his, Deborah Gramiccioni, to Mr. Baroni’s post, Mr. Christie suggested it might be worth examining why Fort Lee should have local access lanes.

But he added that he was not about to call for it right away: “Everybody needs some time to calm down.”

NJCher

(35,654 posts)
16. Let me tell you about a NJ traffic jam
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 08:01 PM
Dec 2013

Especially in that area.

That it took a week for traffic to dissipate is no surprise. There are a lot of residential blocks there--no place to park. The lots are tiny and every driveway has a car in it. If there is on-street parking, it is likely regulated by a town permit and parking is only allowed during certain hours.

Trapped: every block jammed. No way out. No place to park the car and escape.

And that's just the people in the cars. What about the people in their homes or businesses who could go nowhere unless they walked!?

This is something taken very personally. Those in that jam will not easily forget this.


Cher


joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
21. I hope so, but I doubt it.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:47 AM
Dec 2013

New Jersey politics, like Illinois politics, just get overlooked by the population at large. National politics aren't local politics. The American public won't even care about this.

Now, it could be used in future debates, and it might have staying power if it's left alone for now and is brought back up in debates (a nice funny quip about lane closures timed perfectly with something about, say, infrastructure development would be brilliant). But as far as icing Christie's run? Nah, he's running, this is nothing to him.

It'll be old news in 2 years.

mucifer

(23,530 posts)
26. "Any democrat" has a different meaning in Chicago. Between
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 10:55 AM
Dec 2013

mayors daley and rahm emanuel we have a lot of corruption and mayors who continue to be popular.

In the middle of the night, richard daley destroyed a small airport in Chicago because he wanted a nature preserve there. Now, I'm all for nature preserves. But, that was nuts. People woke up and the runways were demolished with no warning. Then there are the TIF funds that are supposed to go to the communities. But, the local government here in Chicago somehow get this money to the wealthy.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-chicago-reader-tif-archive/Content?oid=1180567

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
27. I can tell you a lots of citizens in the Metro-Area..
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 10:56 AM
Dec 2013

are going to remember this stunt. Christie's petty vindictiveness is going to bite him in the a$$. Its bad enough we put up with $14 tolls to cross the freaking bridge and now this. Imagine sitting for hours, imagine no escape out of Fort Lee or into it. He knew exactly what would happen.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
29. I went to the NYTimes link and read the comments to the story.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 01:07 PM
Dec 2013

Christie is NOT getting any love there.
They are piling on and trashing him big time!
(comments are now closed but you can still rec up...which I did like crazy!!)

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
30. Christie's response is telling.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:39 PM
Dec 2013

Dismissing questions with jokes and failure to call for investigations and hold those responsible accountable. These are not the characteristics of the competent and/or innocent.

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