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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:50 AM Dec 2013

Democratic Rep Not Sure Why Ted Cruz Went To Mandela Service

TOM KLUDT – DECEMBER 16, 2013, 10:42 AM EST

If you're wondering why Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) accompanied a largely Democratic delegation to South Africa for Nelson Mandela's memorial service last week, you aren't alone. The Democrats weren't quite sure what to make of it either.

Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI) said Monday that while Cruz was cordial on board the flight to South Africa, she and others were "curious" about what motivated the tea party senator to join the delegation.

"I think that he was on the spot because there were many members who were curious, you know, about why he would want to take this pilgrimage," Moore said on MSNBC. "This was a solemn — it was hard trip, 40 hours and turning right around. And even the senator had to come right back and vote at 1 a.m."

Moore pointed out that the delegation was comprised mostly of Democrats, including some lawmakers who were active in the anti-apartheid movement. "And so there was a lot of curiosity about [Cruz]," she said. Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), who was also in the delegation, said last week that Cruz "got an earful" from his Democratic counterparts on the flight.

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Democratic Rep Not Sure Why Ted Cruz Went To Mandela Service (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2013 OP
Ah but it got his name in the news again, didn't it. I vote for that reason. hollysmom Dec 2013 #1
Reading what they call hard makes me wonder if these assholes ever worked a day in their life. CBGLuthier Dec 2013 #2
So, you're saying all of the reps should not have attended DonViejo Dec 2013 #4
No, I am complaining about them calling it HARD. CBGLuthier Dec 2013 #5
You doubt whether flying 20 hours, sitting in a memorial DonViejo Dec 2013 #8
It is hard actually. Lucky Luciano Dec 2013 #17
good luck, Lucky awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #18
Job is still in NYC. Had to meet some people there though. Lucky Luciano Dec 2013 #33
It is not hard. former9thward Dec 2013 #22
Still gotta disagree. Lucky Luciano Dec 2013 #31
I AGREE Skittles Dec 2013 #26
Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it lunasun Dec 2013 #28
I dunno - flying is rough on me. wercal Dec 2013 #29
Cruz thinks it makes him look Presidential. n/t FSogol Dec 2013 #3
Bingo. This'll be listed under "foreign policy experience" on his Prezidential resume in 2016. Scuba Dec 2013 #7
His staged protest of Castro speech will no doubt be part of his Presidential campaign randr Dec 2013 #6
BINGO! brush Dec 2013 #13
People probably assumed he left to take a leak. Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #16
No one even noticed, so he had to call the media to report his own action. Coyotl Dec 2013 #25
Because the Koch brothers needed representation thelordofhell Dec 2013 #9
So He Could Stage His Protest otohara Dec 2013 #10
DUH! dem in texas Dec 2013 #11
One reason only, to walk out of the Memorial and make himself the biggest asshole in Africa. Coyotl Dec 2013 #12
As I recall, he won the planetary asshole trophy that day randr Dec 2013 #24
He probably also promised his dear old dad that he would... Tyrs WolfDaemon Dec 2013 #14
So he could say, "I can see South Africa from my porch." Wounded Bear Dec 2013 #15
So he could pull it out & say he's not racist wakemeupwhenitsover Dec 2013 #19
Because scruz is an asshole. Cha Dec 2013 #20
He's the kid who'd go to shows so he could do there what he did elsewhere for free -- be obnoxious. ancianita Dec 2013 #21
Probably just like a famous line from Alan Arkin's first big film DFW Dec 2013 #23
With a crowd that large he thought he could "move" some coloring books underpants Dec 2013 #27
Carnival must have had to go sit on the plane...because Historic NY Dec 2013 #30
There are a few reasons for his attendance. First, he wanted to prove he has a black friend and Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #32
His dad told him to go and walk out on Raul Castro's speech. nt TeamPooka Dec 2013 #34

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. Reading what they call hard makes me wonder if these assholes ever worked a day in their life.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:52 AM
Dec 2013

Oh the grueling grind of getting drunk and flying around the world the poor fucking babies.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. So, you're saying all of the reps should not have attended
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:58 AM
Dec 2013

the Mandela service? Including the President, who, according to your deep and thoughtful analysis, was drunk?

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
5. No, I am complaining about them calling it HARD.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:59 AM
Dec 2013

Work on your reading skills and you may be able to understand my point.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. You doubt whether flying 20 hours, sitting in a memorial
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:08 PM
Dec 2013

service for a minimum of 5 hours and then immediately flying 20 hours to return to the U.S. is hard work? Have you ever tried it? I loved serving in Southeast Asia (not Vietnam) for four years but, I hated the damned 18+ hours it took to get there or return to the States. Time zones, climate changes all impact a person -- and I was in my early twenties then. None of these Congress critters are anywhere near my then age. I don't need to work on my reading skills; it's obvious by simply reading your comment that you're more interested in hurling insults and name-calling than you are in posting thoughtful and considered commentary. Sorry for you!

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
17. It is hard actually.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:01 PM
Dec 2013

I just had a job interview in Geneva. I flew from NYC on a Monday night and arrived Tuesday Mirning at 10:00 for a 2:30pm interview that lasted almost six hours. Then I went to dinner by myself and explored the town (the fun part I guess) for four hours in the cold. The heavy fog actually helped spread the light to make decent photos at night. Then I went to bed, got up in the morning and went back to the airport for a 9 hour flight home. Having just one more day to myself would have made it more fun, but with the tight schedule and long hauls, it was really just business.

South Africa would have been much more brutal trip!

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
33. Job is still in NYC. Had to meet some people there though.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 10:27 PM
Dec 2013

Probably 50-50 on getting an offer. I flubbed one of the C++ questions because I am rusty there after doing a lot more C# lately. It was a pretty tough question though and I was on the right track to the solution - just didn't nail that part of the interview. I am not really looking at a hardcore developer role - more like domeone who programs a lot of numerical implementations, so i was syrprised thry came at me that hard on the C++. Nailed much of the rest though.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
22. It is not hard.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 05:55 PM
Dec 2013

They are picked up at Andrews Air Force base and flown in a special military transport to South Africa. Not crowded in like a commercial jet -- all first class. They don't have the hassle of the airport stuff -- they are ushered through. Driven to the memorial and then back again. Nothing hard at all.

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
31. Still gotta disagree.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:08 PM
Dec 2013

I went business class, which is not too different from first. I still could not sleep well because it was too early for me and while it is flat, it is not a bed. Only four hours of light sleep. Also, I got to skip most of the security lines...I know they had some more conveniences, but I doubt it makes a significantly big impact on overall comfort/enjoyment.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 08:04 PM
Dec 2013

Let me tell ya them guys ain't dumb


Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

I forgot about that song = thanks!

wercal

(1,370 posts)
29. I dunno - flying is rough on me.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 08:18 PM
Dec 2013

I actually couldn't take the flying schedules some of these politicians have. I've always assumed that they must get accustomed to it. But really, a 20 hour flight, 4 hour service, and 20 hour return flight would kick my butt.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. Bingo. This'll be listed under "foreign policy experience" on his Prezidential resume in 2016.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:02 PM
Dec 2013

brush

(53,764 posts)
13. BINGO!
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:41 PM
Dec 2013

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And he thought his stunt would get major media coverage. It didn't because, I mean c'mon, how was his little walkout ever going to overshadow the memorial for one of the greats of our age?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
25. No one even noticed, so he had to call the media to report his own action.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:52 PM
Dec 2013

Otherwise, the whole stunt would have gone unnoticed and the trip would nave been for naught.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
11. DUH!
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:22 PM
Dec 2013

It's about the news coverage stupid. Walking out when Raul Castro spoke gave him an even better chance. All he cares about is getting his name on the cable news and in the newspaper. He is a gold plated jerk who will do anything to get publicity. So sorry he is from my state.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
12. One reason only, to walk out of the Memorial and make himself the biggest asshole in Africa.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:29 PM
Dec 2013

And then no one noticed, so he had to call the media and report on himself being the biggest asshole in Africa.

Two continents down, ....

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
14. He probably also promised his dear old dad that he would...
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 01:17 PM
Dec 2013

look for Pres. Obama's 'real' birth certificate.

wakemeupwhenitsover

(68,751 posts)
19. So he could pull it out & say he's not racist
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:32 PM
Dec 2013

when the time comes.

"I'm not racist: I went on a grueling flight & missed x, y & z to go to Mandela's memorial"

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
21. He's the kid who'd go to shows so he could do there what he did elsewhere for free -- be obnoxious.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 05:00 PM
Dec 2013

Houston allows for any kind of idiot with oil credentials.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
23. Probably just like a famous line from Alan Arkin's first big film
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:52 PM
Dec 2013

John Philip Law plays a seaman on a Soviet submarine that accidentally ran aground on a Martha's Vineyard-style fictional island off the coast of Massachusetts.

The Soviet seaman explains to an American vacationing on the island how it happened. He said that the captain didn't pay close enough attention to the shallow depth while observing the American coastline. The American asks, full of suspicion, why the captain wanted to observe the American coastline. The Soviet seaman replies, "never saw it." The American just says, "oh," and figures it was a logical enough reason.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. There are a few reasons for his attendance. First, he wanted to prove he has a black friend and
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:25 PM
Dec 2013

Close enough to the blank friend to attend the memorial service. He wanted to beg Raul Castro to allow he and his family to return to Cuba. He wanted to be the first hand Raul Castro shook but Obama beat him out. He had planned to filibuster the service with his story of Green Eggs and Ham. Was on the wrong flight, did not know it was going to South African or it was for Mandela's memorial service. He thought he was going to be the key note speaker. Thought he could replace Mandela as president and found Mandela was not in office at this time.

My hope was he would get lost and he would have to swin to get back to Texas.

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