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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:52 PM Jan 2014

Legalizing pot makes police departments poorer due to fewer asset forfeitures

According to a January 9 Wall Street Journal article, the legalization of marijuana in Washington and Colorado may mean that cops have less money to play with. When weed was illegal, police departments could cash in via civil asset forfeiture—they’d raid grow operations and dealers and seize cash and other kinds of property. Those seizures provided both a financial incentive to prioritize drug crimes and a financial perk for departments. Now, presumably, there will be fewer marijuana raids, thus less money for the cops. Washington state hasn’t earmarked any of the tax revenue soon to be coming in from the legal weed market to go to law enforcement, and Colorado may send some of their new dollars towards the cops, but not necessarily—in both states, millions of dollars normally spent on law enforcement may disappear as a consequence of the end of prohibition.

The specifics of forfeiture laws vary from state to state, but generally speaking police can take large amounts of cash (often anything over $10,000) from defendants based only on the suspicion that a big chunk of currency found during, say, a traffic stop, might be drug profits. It can also be chillingly easy for cops to take your property through asset forfeiture if a family member you live with is dealing drugs. The Department of Justice is generally very generous about sharing funds—as long as there’s tangential federal involvement in a case, the Feds take 20 percent of the assets forfeited and the rest goes to the local cops—so police departments are strongly encouraged to go after drug dealers; not only do they get photo ops with “dope on the table,” they can keep the majority of the profits from the sale of seized homes, vehicles, and property. (Not to mention that cash.) Often the onus is on the owner of the property to prove that it wasn’t involved in a crime, which can be an expensive and time-consuming endeavor.

If this sounds like bullshit, or possibly theft, or at least very bad policy, you’re not alone in thinking that. But it’s the way the law has been since the 1980s, and there hasn’t been enough of a public outcry to reform it—but as it turns out, legalizing marijuana helps slow down the asset forfeiture machine as well. The WSJ piece reports that departments in Washington and Colorado may have to make cuts, particularly to multi-jurisdictional narcotics squads like the one in Snohomish County, Washington, that has raised up to $1 million in forfeiture funds in some years. (In Snohomish, they even keep some of their law enforcement vehicles on a patch of former pot-growing land that was taken in a forfeiture operation.)

There’s a long way to go before the warped incentives of asset forfeiture laws are fixed—even in Colorado and Washington, cops can go after unlicensed marijuana growers or step up their investigations into still-illicit narcotics such as heroin or cocaine. (And no doubt some departments will do just that.) Still, marijuana legalization will have yet another benefit if it forces police departments to slim down and cut a few million dollars of drug-war fat. It could even halt the seemingly unstoppable slide towards full-on police militarization just a bit.

http://m.vice.com/read/legalizing-pot-makes-police-departments-poorer

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Legalizing pot makes police departments poorer due to fewer asset forfeitures (Original Post) Redfairen Jan 2014 OP
Fuke 'em! gopiscrap Jan 2014 #1
And the COPS program did not get an increase in funding either. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #2
*eyeroll* sakabatou Jan 2014 #3
I was watching the tv show "Drugs Inc" the other night indie9197 Jan 2014 #4
good frylock Jan 2014 #5
Damn, no new tanks or drones? Live and Learn Jan 2014 #6
Again a stupid story Bennyboy Jan 2014 #7
Po itty bitty poweese. Lint Head Jan 2014 #8
Need to make a buck with asset forfeiture? Half-Century Man Jan 2014 #9
+1 chalky Jan 2014 #11
Good! n/t Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2014 #10
they can always get jobs doing something more useful for society :-) nt msongs Jan 2014 #12
I was thinking dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #13
and yet another great reason for legalization lame54 Jan 2014 #14
Good! santamargarita Jan 2014 #15
Good, it's not their money TeamPooka Jan 2014 #16

indie9197

(509 posts)
4. I was watching the tv show "Drugs Inc" the other night
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:36 AM
Jan 2014

and cops in Nashville busted a musician for having less than half an ounce of herb. They seized the guy's (or girl's) custom van worth probably $50k. The cops were gloating about how they were going to use it! So it turns a misdemeanor violation into a $50k fine? How is that right?!!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. Damn, no new tanks or drones?
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:44 AM
Jan 2014

How will they survive without stealing from people? Guess they will have to do it in less financially rewarding ways like parking tickets.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
7. Again a stupid story
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:50 AM
Jan 2014

They may not seize the growers property that participate in the legal retail model, but they certainly will with the people that do not participate. And in Colorado that is about 95% of the growers.

Even when it all comes legal, properties will still be seized by people that aren't paying taxes on their crops. Law enforcement will switch tactics to a tax collection program...

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
9. Need to make a buck with asset forfeiture?
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:07 AM
Jan 2014

Seize Goldman Sachs and Citibank for fraud.
Seize Halliburton for war profiteering.
Seize the assets of every 501(c) 3 and 501(c)4 which violated the tax codes.

As it is illegal to profit from criminal activity. Fine the entire management staff of every bank/financial institution which commits fraud their entire salary for the length of their individual terms of employment.

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