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Related: About this forumFox Host Says There Is No Gender Gap: 'Many Women Make Exactly What They're Worth'
CAITLIN MACNEAL JANUARY 29, 2014, 2:42 PM EST
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MacCallum, Daily Caller editor-in-chief Tucker Carlson and liberal radio host Alan Colmes discussed President Obama's call for pay equality for women in his State of the Union address on Tuesday. Obama called the pay gap an "embarrassment."
When Colmes asked MacCallum whether women are worth the same amount as men, MacCallum said that "they're worth a heck of a lot." MacCallum said she doesn't see gender inequality in the workplace.
"The numbers, when you look at them, do not bear out that there is a war on women in the workplace," she said, as quoted by Raw Story. "And I think it's a question of how liberals and conservative view what needs to be done for women."
Carlson agreed that there is no pay gap -- if you factor in maternity leave. "Women make more than men if you adjust for the time they take off for child-bearing," he said. "That's a fact."
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I just don't get it. i assume it has to do with a dissonance about "all those other women" being less-deserving, nasty people, or something?
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)A man and a woman start a job at about the same time, get equal raises for several years, and then she decides to take a few years off to raise a kid or two. Meantime, he is stilll working, still producing for his company, and still getting raises. When she goes back to work for the same company after several years of not producing and not getting raises, should she be rehired at the same rate of pay the guy is getting?
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)And never takes time off to have a kid?
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)MiniMe
(21,714 posts)That she should be making the same amount as a guy that got hired at the same time into the same position?
If he makes, say, $50k to do a job, and they re-hire her to do the same job, why should she be paid less? They're both qualified for the position. Management has equal expectations.
What if they hired a man for the same position? Would they pay him $38,500 (77 cents on the dollar)?
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BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)That last one......I don't know why that especially bugs me, but it does.
YECCH!!!!
Whisp
(24,096 posts)the big white 1% man at the top who is most worthy of all the money in the world.
just cuz
Hekate
(90,645 posts)... there was something called "payroll equivalency." I worked for a major university, so you know "some college" really was usually a bachelor's degree or close to it in something because you had to understand the context of the office you were running; and as time went on, the ability to operate a sophisticated piece of equipment (i.e. computer) also became essential.
I was always curious, and I worked in Personnel (as it was then known), so I checked around. The payroll equivalent job for Secretary II was Groundskeeper. No language skills required; ability to ride a lawnmower and follow basic instructions. LOL--not.
Decades later I had the opportunity to check this again, because I wanted to see if anything had changed for the better. Nothing against the Groundskeepers, but "equivalent"? Anyhow -- nothing's changed. They still pay the Sec II and Admin Asst I the same as the Groundskeepers.
But I guess that's all right because some of those women take maternity leave for a couple of months.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)maternity leave is figured in? Maybe because if there is a "study" to back him up it will be as flawed as the academically ridiculed "study" that showed an immigration bill would cost the country, what 6 trillion?