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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:38 PM Jan 2014

Fox Host Says There Is No Gender Gap: 'Many Women Make Exactly What They're Worth'

CAITLIN MACNEAL – JANUARY 29, 2014, 2:42 PM EST

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MacCallum, Daily Caller editor-in-chief Tucker Carlson and liberal radio host Alan Colmes discussed President Obama's call for pay equality for women in his State of the Union address on Tuesday. Obama called the pay gap an "embarrassment."

When Colmes asked MacCallum whether women are worth the same amount as men, MacCallum said that "they're worth a heck of a lot." MacCallum said she doesn't see gender inequality in the workplace.

"The numbers, when you look at them, do not bear out that there is a war on women in the workplace," she said, as quoted by Raw Story. "And I think it's a question of how liberals and conservative view what needs to be done for women."

Carlson agreed that there is no pay gap -- if you factor in maternity leave. "Women make more than men if you adjust for the time they take off for child-bearing," he said. "That's a fact."

more:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/maccallum-fox-women-make-exactly-worth

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Fox Host Says There Is No Gender Gap: 'Many Women Make Exactly What They're Worth' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2014 OP
And some women continue to vote republican Scootaloo Jan 2014 #1
And Many Assholes Are Exactly That. Lint Head Jan 2014 #2
Okay, I do have a question about this YarnAddict Jan 2014 #3
And what if she never has a child? MiniMe Jan 2014 #5
What does that have to do with my question? n/t YarnAddict Jan 2014 #8
So you would agree that if she never took the time off that you put in your question MiniMe Jan 2014 #9
Yes. kcass1954 Jan 2014 #10
The GOP teaching regarding women...8 steps SummerSnow Jan 2014 #4
this should ba an OP! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #6
minorities and the disabled should also be included and Whisp Jan 2014 #7
Back when I was a secretary (min quals: excellent English skills and some college)... Hekate Feb 2014 #11
Why didn't Tucker Carlson gives us a source for his "fact" that women are paid equally when okaawhatever Feb 2014 #12
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. And some women continue to vote republican
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jan 2014

I just don't get it. i assume it has to do with a dissonance about "all those other women" being less-deserving, nasty people, or something?

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
3. Okay, I do have a question about this
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jan 2014

A man and a woman start a job at about the same time, get equal raises for several years, and then she decides to take a few years off to raise a kid or two. Meantime, he is stilll working, still producing for his company, and still getting raises. When she goes back to work for the same company after several years of not producing and not getting raises, should she be rehired at the same rate of pay the guy is getting?

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
9. So you would agree that if she never took the time off that you put in your question
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jan 2014

That she should be making the same amount as a guy that got hired at the same time into the same position?

kcass1954

(1,819 posts)
10. Yes.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:37 PM
Jan 2014

If he makes, say, $50k to do a job, and they re-hire her to do the same job, why should she be paid less? They're both qualified for the position. Management has equal expectations.

What if they hired a man for the same position? Would they pay him $38,500 (77 cents on the dollar)?

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
6. this should ba an OP!
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jan 2014

That last one......I don't know why that especially bugs me, but it does.

YECCH!!!!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
7. minorities and the disabled should also be included and
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jan 2014

the big white 1% man at the top who is most worthy of all the money in the world.

just cuz

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
11. Back when I was a secretary (min quals: excellent English skills and some college)...
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:49 AM
Feb 2014

... there was something called "payroll equivalency." I worked for a major university, so you know "some college" really was usually a bachelor's degree or close to it in something because you had to understand the context of the office you were running; and as time went on, the ability to operate a sophisticated piece of equipment (i.e. computer) also became essential.

I was always curious, and I worked in Personnel (as it was then known), so I checked around. The payroll equivalent job for Secretary II was Groundskeeper. No language skills required; ability to ride a lawnmower and follow basic instructions. LOL--not.

Decades later I had the opportunity to check this again, because I wanted to see if anything had changed for the better. Nothing against the Groundskeepers, but "equivalent"? Anyhow -- nothing's changed. They still pay the Sec II and Admin Asst I the same as the Groundskeepers.

But I guess that's all right because some of those women take maternity leave for a couple of months.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
12. Why didn't Tucker Carlson gives us a source for his "fact" that women are paid equally when
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 01:41 PM
Feb 2014

maternity leave is figured in? Maybe because if there is a "study" to back him up it will be as flawed as the academically ridiculed "study" that showed an immigration bill would cost the country, what 6 trillion?

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