Are you serious, Barack Obama?

[peoli]

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is an edit to clear up any confusion about this post. It is simply a play off of Bernie Sanders quote,

"No one who is serious about protecting the future of our planet and reversing global warming could support this pipeline project."

So, the question is...

"Are you serious, Barack Obama?"

There is no Obama criticism here. Have a nice evening.

[jenmito]

1. Did I miss something? Did Obama approve the pipeline? n/t

[peoli]

2. State Dept. played down it's impact... link..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/31/us-usa-canada-keystone-idUSBREA0U1OJ20140131

[jenmito]

3. I know THAT, but Obama hasn't approved it yet, and Carney said the State Dept. is just

PART of what Obama's going to take into account.

[peoli]

4. Cool, so we will see if he is serious or not. n/t

[2naSalit]

23. Responding here to place it near top of page

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:27 PM - Edit history (1)

There is a public comment period that lasts only 30 DAYS

http://www.keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/

A 30-day public comment period begins on February 5, 2014 and will close on March 7, 2014. During this period, members of the public and other interested parties are encouraged to submit comments on the national interest determination to http://www.regulations.gov Comments are not private and will be made public. Comments may also be mailed directly to:

U.S. Department of State
Bureau of Energy Resources, Room 4843
Attn: Keystone XL Public Comments
2201 C Street, NW
Washington, DC 20520

Don't delay, get everyone you know to get on this and don't ease up!!! For all our sake.

Fixed link, was pasted from original so it's like that on the official site.

[pangaia]

27. Just something I noticed..

You need to remove the period at the end of www.regulations.gov or the link doesn't work.
Thanks for posting..

[2naSalit]

34. Thanks for pointing that out

I fixed it. I pasted that directly from the official web site so it is a problem on the official site if anyone goes there to use the link at that location.

[Cha]

8. No, you didn't miss anything, jenmito.

[jenmito]

14. Hey, Cha!

Long time no see!

[Cha]

19. I know.. where

you been, girl?

[jenmito]

36. I've been here reading,

but not posting for no reason.

It's so funny-every time I see Amy Holmes on TV, I think of how you said you love her hair.

[Cha]

37. Really? 'Cause

I don't remember "Amy Holmes".. oh no!

[jenmito]

38. This is Amy:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/holmes.amy.html

Maybe I'M the one who can't remember who loves her hair (if it wasn't you). Oh no!

[Cha]

39. Well I do love her hair!

I don't have a tv.. but, maybe there was a pic of her on DU and I commented on it. I could have seen it once and went right for the "hair".

That'd be like me.

Oh no! She's a liar.. . "conservative" is code for liar in my opinion. Oh well.

[jenmito]

40. Hmmm...

from what I remember, you said you loved her hair but hated her politics. One of us is losing our mind! Maybe it's me, and I haven't posted in a while because I FORGOT! But it IS a coincidence that you DO love her hair. Uh oh for one or both of us!

[Cha]

42. It's probably me who doesn't remember..

Never gave another thought about her. We'll say it's you who remembers it.

[jenmito]

44. Either way...

I thought of you when I saw Amy Holmes. Let's just leave it a mystery.

[Herself]

5. are we being invaded by the yahoo news hysteria?

Leaping to conclusion, hair triggers.. ?

[peoli]

6. ???

[Cha]

7. Invaded a long time ago.

When in doubt blame Obama. Thanks Obama.

[bvar22]

10. Did anybody "blame Obama".

No, they didn't.
The OP was a direct quote from Bernie Sanders,
and didn't mention President Obama.

[font size=3]When in doubt, make up something about somebody blaming Obama.[/font]
Your statement could justifiably be identified as another example of ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome).

[peoli]

16. thanks, n/t

[jenmito]

17. Yes, the OP wrote, "Are you serious, Barack Obama?" n/t

[peoli]

22. yeah, it's a question.

Do you know the answer? Because he hasn't made a decision yet. Is he serious about climate change? Will he approve keystone or not? We don't know.

[jenmito]

35. If that's how you really meant it,

why didn't you "ask" "Are you serious about Climate Change, Barack Obama?" Your "question" seemed more of an accusation.

[peoli]

41. I think it just depends on how you choose to read it.

I understand what you are saying though and I edited the post to include an explanation.

[jenmito]

45. Well,

that's a little better. Thanks.

[freshwest]

11. Who has said repeatedly the pipeline won't provide jobs or energy to Americans, and it won't. But

the Koch brothers are buying the voters for it state by state, by making deals with those who will do so.

The House has attached the pipeline fast track to every appropriations bill since 2009 and PBO has has it taken off, at a cost to other things. It's easier to blame That Man in the White House than deal with the locals who will bust the heads of protestors.

The oil industry is working to make this an economic crisis since then, neglecting the already existing pipeline from Canada to the Gulf that has been carrying tar sands oil and causing a massive spill in Arkansas. Same stuff in the pipeline being forced through a very old pipeline. They upped the pressure to force it through and it broke. Plentiful pictures and stories posted here at DU, and done with full backing by their elected TP.

Then came the explosion in Canada carrying this crap, which is explosive, by rail. Now they're jamming Amtrak passenger service shipping it across America to ports.

It's run some businesses that depend on rail transportation out of business by slowing down the transportation grid for them and commuters. They are continually pushing for more of Canadian tar sands oils to be shipped by rail. A buried pipeline appears safer, but it's out of sight and they can get away with spills in states where they own the legislatures.

Some states like mine are on alert to prevent this cargo being shipped by rail through our borders, but others don't care. This is a state by state program and the feds are the ones holding it back.

Obama was issued threats directly by Charles Koch if he didn't let it go through in 2009. Obama didn't and the vengeance was the Tea Party. Of course, they wanted to stop Obama's counting on the sunsetting of the Bush tax cuts at the last day of 2010. With a series of media support and outrage machines, they set off the RWers to vote in the TP.

Then came Citizens United. None of those things are Obama's fault, Cha. This has been well documented on DU but Obama is not given any credit or credibility by those who haven't done the research and react to the latest ODS.

That is all. Have a good week, it's getting colder here, Cha.

[Cha]

12. Gracias freshwest!

It's getting colder here in Hawaii! It was hot yesterday and last night we had a Cold Snap come in.. I guess from the Artic! Brrr.

Stay well and warm, fresh

[freshwest]

13. Wow! I wonder if it's the same system. Not watching the big weather, just following the local.

May be going down to into the twenties at night again, as it's dry and it's just coming down.

I never think of your area as getting cold Tough transition for all of you. You stay warm, too, Cha.

[Cha]

18. Could be.. it was warm yesterday and

then later in the night I could actually feel the cold snap changing through the screen window! It was a two blanket night again.

I have sweat pants under my sweat pants(that I just dug out of storage)! My neighbor just said there was rain coming tonight and a flood watch so we'll see what happens.

Not really complaining just surprised! I actually kind of like it because it's a change.

[freshwest]

20. Well, I haven't had the window open for months, so you've got me beat! Only getting above freezing

during the day for the rest of the week. I hope it warms a little as it was just this kind of pattern that got me ailing. Even though usually I enjoy it.

[peoli]

15. This post is a question that we wont know the answer to

util the president makes a decision. It's a question that plays off the first line in Bernie's quote. That's all this is, a question.

[freshwest]

25. Been going on a long time. It's a mocking call out. But Bernie didn't call out Obama.

Check the sources on similar stories, with the slant by RW sources, Fox, Bloomberg, unnamed persons, etc. :

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/keystone-pipeline-environmental-report/2014/01/31/id/550140

It jumps to the conclusion the RW wants, by citing a 90-day timeline for Obama to decide. He knew about this last year and didn't put it in his SOTU for a reason. This is the RW 'inevitabilty' gambit, the one they've played since 2009.

Nothing in that says Obama will okay it. This pipeline was being set up during the Bush administration and Obama rejected it with his first budget negotation in 2009, in favor of solar and other alternative energy stimulus projects.

The media and GOP fought him tooth and nail since then and have not stopped using pressure on him but more importantly, in the states, as I explained in a reply below.

Obama has to let the states do what they want; he's been the one holding them back. That is part of the argument of the Tenthers (states' rights) groups and the Tea Party. They want to keep on and expand the fossil fuels, even call them God's Plan. Because solar is socialist. Sounds alike, huh?

Welcome to DU. You'll see a lot of baiting here. It's 'trendy,' and usually doesn't respond to reason or facts. It just is.

[sheshe2]

32. Nailed it! n/t

[peoli]

43. I wasn't accusing Obama of doing anything.

It's a question based on the Bernie Sanders quote. It's really not a big deal, nor is it baiting.

[bvar22]

9. This is SO important that it should be posted everyday.

I may start that tomorrow.

[2naSalit]

21. From what I understand

there will be a public comment period before any decision is made. I will try to find more info on that. But I recommend to everyone to be on the lookout for that announcement and participate and get everyone you know to participate because I suspect, if it's anything like the shit they pulled about removing wolves from the ESA list, it won't be a long comment period and will be poorly advertised.

I usually participate in public comment opportunities and have seen this set of tactics put to use way too often.

Just a word to the wise...

[Jamaal510]

24. The title of this thread should be changed to

"are you serious, Ed Shultz". Just a few minutes ago, he actually came out in support of the XL pipeline on his show and debated someone from the Sierra Club, saying that the pipeline would be safer than the alternative for transporting oil. Obama meanwhile still has yet to make a decision either way.

[Whisp]

28. I wonder if it's a coincidence that there have been a rash of rail accidents lately

that were transporting oil....

I am very disappointed in Shultz for appearing to have been bought.

[freshwest]

30. I'm sure the pressure is being applied, and it is impacting a lot of businesses and individuals.

I've detailed some of it in my other post here. The states are being allowed to decide.

The only thing that has held this up has been Obama since 2009. The Koch and energy people have puahed this since 2007 or earlier, and people are being bought out state by state. Obama has taken a lot of heat behind the scenes for stalling it, trying to let more people decide.

Even when threatened with sequester and shutdown he did not bend since 2009. He says it will provide no oil or long term jobs for Americans. No taxes will be paid to the Treasury, as it is a Canadian product being shipped at the Port of Houston to China.

Right now they are trying to ship by rail to West Coast ports and some of us are trying to stop it. Some ports are owned by China already. We are not the only voice on it.

[freshwest]

31. At least it didn't call him Barry Soeweto, huh? Same tone, though. Didn't fit Sanders' quote. n/t

[Keefer]

26. The oil will be extracted

whether or not the pipeline is approved. It will be transported by rail and over the road. LOSE/LOSE.

[rpannier]

29. Great quote from Sen Sanders

But I will say, that depending on how you read the title it could be viewed as a normal question or like an angered one; A person tells you they did something you think is stupid and you say, "Are you serious?"

The blowback you're getting is understandable (IMO)

[blkmusclmachine]

33. Deadly serious.

[okieinpain]

46. lol, he's going to approve it. big money always

Wins over your right to live pollution free. Lol.

[Hekate]

47. Has Obama approved it yet? ~~ Have a nice evening.