Obamacare Opponents Freak Out At The Idea The Law Could Mean More Freedom

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WASHINGTON -- The idea that Obamacare could give people more freedom sure struck a nerve with those who hate the health care reform law, and apparently hate that people could choose to work less because of it. (Warning: some of them used strong language.)


But in a hearing Wednesday, CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf explained how that is not so: His office's report, he noted, actually says that Obamacare produces a net increase in employment, and cuts the deficit.

As for the idea that millions of new shirkers would join Mitt Romney's infamous 47 percent, well, the people who might work less thanks to Obamacare would actually be doing things most Americans praise. Many would be moms and dads working fewer hours to spend time with their kids. There would be older, sicker Americans who only work now because it's the only way they can get health care. People with multiple jobs could cut that number to one. And many people would be able to take advantage of the new health-care safety net to start their own businesses -- 1.5 million according to one estimate from the Urban Institute.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/obamacare-jobs_n_4732344.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

[CTyankee]

1. I suspect there is also a racist tinge to this. I'm waiting for them to slip up and say something

that will tip their hand, like Reagan's reference to "young bucks."

[DURHAM D]

2. For today's Republicans that would not be a slip up.

It would be a major component of their campaign to get out the vote.

[CTyankee]

3. Usually not so brazen as Joe Scar did today on Morning Joe...

he was unusually bad today...

[RKP5637]

10. Given the republicans hate everything in life that has to do with logic, fairness, moving into

the future and building a better society for all, yes, there is definitively an element of racism IMO. The GOP really should rebrand itself as, "The Party of Hatred!"

[CTyankee]

11. the party of the snarling face...

their hatred contorts their faces, have you noticed?

[RKP5637]

12. Definitely! They have such an internal ugliness and hatefulness it contorts their

faces, their body motions and the image they project. I know, you can't Judge a book by its cover, but many of them just seethe with hatefulness. They stand right out in a crowd with their scowling faces and bizarre looks. I have one friend that claims one can even smell an ugliness about them with the hateful vibes they send out.

[mconnors]

4. Of course it does

How many people are in jobs only because of the heath care benefit, and would love to be working/doing some where else. Only if they had heath care! If you are in a job just for the heath care does that make you at the top of your game when you are working? If you could work where you wanted, you would be happier, healthier and you are going to be a lot more productive, and that would be good for every one in this country. The campaign should be "do what you love" I think I even underestimate the power of doing what you love not be tied down because you have to because of health.

I think we need to stress more that we as a country are as one, and the goal is to be the best and only competing with other counties.
I wish Obama would have worded things a little different to stress this and show where we are at in different area when it comes to competing like 33 in health care and so on.

We should not be competing against each other, a lot of these tea baggers no not understand this. Every time I have had a chance to sit with a bagger they get this and start backing down quickly and they agree. I tell them as a business owner we are competing world wide not with each other, then they start to understand.
Did not have much time to explain my thoughts so I hope you get what I'm saying!

[Fred Sanders]

5. So those families with mom and pop working may CHOOSE to cut hours from full time to part time

to make their working class lives more satisfying by doing any of the above options?

And now the right wing, caught with their propaganda pants down, are calling that "mooching", completely redefining the word to fit their agenda?

All righty, then.

That explains the horror that must be for the right wing, though it does not explain WHY the horror.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. Thought that they liked "FREEDOM"!

not to mention that it might make it so that people can spend more time with their families too. That's important to them too, right? "Family values"?

[quakerboy]

9. No, they like Fredumb

The ability to make choices, freedom, is antithetical to their model.

The prefer fredumb, the right to accept the choices of those with more money than you, because more money=smarter=more worthy.

As to "family values"... that means that white folks need to have more babies and gay folks need to get back in the closet where they belong. It has nothing to do with spending time with your family.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Some of the RW posters I discussed O-Care with were adamant...

"People don't make employment decisions on helath care benefits!"

Uh, yeah. Right.

Proceed.

[yellowcanine]

8. SOME PEOPLE WILL RETIRE EARLIER AND SOME WILL WORK ONE JOB INSTEAD OF TWO! THE HORROR!

It's a Fascist plot, I tell ya!

[polynomial]

13. Gee more to time

Gee more time to be able to look at the unfair legislation formulated by so called representatives for We the People.

As Romney says corporations are people, right then they should pay a tax rate as people, and be indicted for crimes and convicted as people, and have corporate well fair cuts like people, and have profit margins within the same scale as middle income pay increases like regular people.

The utmost problem in mainstream media is the conspiracy of silence especially when comes to the Bush crime family, they are people that committed war crimes.

Indeed besides tapping the system for trillions in profiteering illustrated by Gerald Posner in his book Secrets of the Kingdom or Russ Baker in his book Family Secrets, show the industrial connection to incredible banking families the famous Union Pacific money family. Or a huge thank you for Thom Hartmann in his honest description for the atrocity in governance the Bush administration got away with inside knowledge of the mainstream media.

Yikes think of all the Bullwinkle written over the decades, the documentation that has this same spirit of the screwing the middle class.

Listen up people, the whole rhetoric of saying Obama Care from my view is very, very race baiting. This whole national piece of legislation is documented as The Affordable Care Act.

I appeal to and make the argument all those here in the Democratic Underground to endorse an effort to recognize that basic cultural philosophy of this nature to insist to call the Affordable Care Act as Obama Care is corrupting innocent easily changeable amiable minds. This piece of legislation is formulated by many, not just Obama. That simple and the mainstream media is responsible for this confusion.

This is the platform for the Democratic National Party to be able to take the majority in the House of Representatives, plus keep the Senate.

It is astonishingly simple it throws the bath water out with the media, and we need all the water we can to be able to fix the broken XL pipeline twenty five feet below the surface or help California in the drought.

From my view it would be and honest effort to get the endorsement from the Army Core of Engineers that could validate the good the bad and the ugly of the XL pipeline to flush out the good old boys that screwed up Katrina.