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Related: About this forumIn Ruthlessness We Trust
But be carefulnot all cutthroat politicians are the same.By John Dickerson
et us now praise ruthless men. And women. The two most talked-about potential presidential candidates in 2016 are enduring public examinations of their ruthlessness. In New Jersey federal investigators, the legislature, and the press are looking at whether Gov. Chris Christie knew aides in his office sought to punish a local official for not supporting their boss by closing portions of the George Washington Bridge. At the same time, Hillary Clinton is going through one of the periodic public checkups she has enjoyed since emerging on the national stage in 1992. A new book, HRC, describes a carefully tended Clinton enemies list where the couple kept track of those who had abandoned or betrayed them. The private diaries of a close confidante, first reported on by the Washington Free Beacon, describe first lady Hillary Clintons desire to punish everyone from anonymous leakers to an Arkansas publisher during her husbands presidency.
Partisans react to these developments predictably; your opponents penchant for ruthlessness is a sign of his or her low character. Thats wrong. Ruthlessness is a necessary political skill, particularly for presidents. The task is to make an assessment about whether a particular politician uses it effectively or not. There are limits to ruthlessnessabuse of power and crippling vindictivenessbut we shouldnt mistake signs of the trait as necessary proof a politician is locked into its excesses.
Politics is a profession so clouded with self-love, self-dealing, and greed that in some cases the only way you can make progress is if you use a pickax. That means knowing how to use intimidation and retributionand recognizing that every tool of the office can be a weapon if you hold it right. In presidential campaigns some voters are uncomfortable with politicians who show an aptitude for arm-twisting. That, in turn, leads to a lot of wasted time as politicians pretend that they are not skilled in the activities required for the job that theyre trying so hard to get. It gets circular fast: You deceive to prove that you are not deceptive.
Democratic strategist James Carville once famously compared Hillary Clinton with President Obama by suggesting the former first lady had more guts than the president, though Carville referred to a part of the anatomy physiologically unavailable to a female candidate. Reading Diane Blairs journals you see what Carville was talking about. HC still in despair that nobody in WH tough and mean enough, writes the political science professor, a longtime Arkansas friend of the Clintons, who died in 2000 and whose papers were donated to the University of Arkansas. Most people in this town have no pain threshold, she quotes Clinton as saying in another entry. When something is blocked in the White House, HC urging hard ball. Hillary Clinton spends the weekend reorganizing the White House, planning firings and punishing leakers, but Blair says it ultimately frustrates the first lady because her husband wont pull the trigger.
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In Ruthlessness We Trust (Original Post)
DonViejo
Feb 2014
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bemildred
(90,061 posts)1. It's an interesting argument.
I submit that Obama is more ruthless than Hillary, and Carville is projecting. And Christie is just crude.