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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:50 PM Feb 2014

"Make me do it" is the most honest and important statement Obama ever made

Have a progressive agenda we want implemented? "Make me do it" is the presidential reply. That clearly applies to Obama, since he literally said it, but it also applies to every President we are likely to ever see elected in our lifetimes. It is a very long hard climb to reach the presidency and whoever gets there arrives accompanied by a truck load of I.O.U.s. We have a political system that is obscenely skewed by money, but even if money wasn't as disproportionately transcendent in American politics as it is, the presidency is an inherently conservative institution. The federal government, and the cumulative interests that it has served for generations, has tremendous inertia behind it to remain on track in whatever track it now is running on. And that by definition is the status quo, which always means that the people who are getting what they want from the current societal order always start out holding most of the strings.

The only time I half expected anything remotely resembling revolutionary changes flowing top down from the President to the people was during that brief shining moment when it looked like RFK would become the next President of the United States But those were extraordinary times and Bobby was an extraordinary person whose character was forged in fires during those extraordinary times. We don't know how much he could have accomplished, but even he would have needed to lean heavily on the support he knew he could summon from a breathtaking broad spectrum of socially engaged grass roots backers.

For every degree left of center that Barack Obama navigates he does so by breaking through thick political pack ice, and it always takes its toll, even when it ultimately shatters. It is true that some women, and some men, are made of steel more hardened than the norm, and they will confront some storms that others would shy away from, but they too ultimately have to pick their fights in order to be viable. Which is ultimately why I am not overly disheartened by the likelihood of a Hillary Clinton Democratic candidacy for President. In the end it is less about the candidate and more about us.

In the binary political world of American politics, where the cumulative forces of every national special interest conceivable places its chips on either black or red in each national election, the field of political combat starts off tightly confined. The lines are drawn just short of the extreme right on one side of the field, and narrowly left of center at the other. In that binary world, at the national level, our team is the one that will at least occasionally acknowledge the legitimacy of occupying any ground laying left of center. How hard they will fight for that ground is a different story. Pragmatic considerations usually pull toward the center of the well worn playing field with its inherent conservative bias, not to the center of an abstract political spectrum where actual socialism remains a theoretically valid option

The President we elect can venture outside traditionally defined boundaries, but only on rare occasions, and only when there is a strong groundswell of popular support pushing hard for that line to be crossed. The lines themselves are theoretically subject to change, but bringing about that type of change is much more formidable to accomplish than are isolated single transgressions across those boundaries. It is our continuing struggle and responsibility to move the lines, of what it is possible to achieve in the way of social justice in America. That initiative won't come from the man or woman we manage to elect as President in any given four year cycle. We will have to make him or her move toward us. We can't place all of our eggs in any presidential basket, no matter how inspirational on one hand, or disillusioning on the other, he or she may ultimately turn out to be.

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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
2. To create movements in support of our ideals that compell political action we desire
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

The two most recent eras in which there was a significant political shift to the left for the sake of the people were during the Great Depression and during the 60's, the latter when the civil rights and anti war movements in particular crested. Unions were seizing control of factories during the 30's. It's not enough to elect a President who says many of the things that we want to hear while he/she is campaigning. Pressure from below has to be strong to overcome the lock that the truly "entitled" usually have on ultimate policy making in this country.

flying rabbit

(4,632 posts)
3. He puts out that "make me do it" meme quite a lot
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:12 PM
Feb 2014

Your OP is spot on. That is his way of telling us, that if we want it, we really have to make some noise. He can't do it alone.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
4. yes yes yes. I've made the point before, he said, "make me do it"
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:45 AM
Feb 2014

I remember that from the first inaugural speech.

This is a really excellent article. I'd give it a hundred recs if i could.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. People have to make noise, mail and call the White House and ask for what they want pushed.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:28 AM
Feb 2014

They count those calls and emails, keep track of them. Another good way to get attention are those petitions the President added to the White House website back when Pres. O improved the website.

Takes a lot of sigs but the issue petitioned does get extra attention and addressed.

GREAT POST! "Make me do it" !!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. best example is the GLBT movement. They gave him support, and they also gave him hell.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:24 PM
Feb 2014

They didn't whine or get bitter or profess disappointment. They got in his face, yelled at him, cut off the GayTM, embarrassed him, and made it all but impossible for him to continue pissing them off.

Not only that, they moved the ground underneath his feet via popular opinion.

The result is that, while they certainly still have plenty of legitimate grievances, they've gotten a lot more out of him than virtually any other cause has. I don't think he's done anything on their behalf that he didn't want to do, but he has done a lot more than he was politically comfortable doing.

calimary

(81,195 posts)
10. Amen!
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:04 PM
Feb 2014

And it's spot-on. Make some noise. It's sure worked for the teabaggers, after all. They seem a lot more formidable than their thoroughly MINORITY numbers. Because they don't shut up. They don't go away. They stick around and make a lot of noise and a big stink about everything and whether you like it or not, they've made themselves into players that way, and you now have to deal with them at every turn. THEY'VE managed perception brilliantly! That's the only thing brilliant about them, btw, but it counts BIGTIME. Unfortunately, it's really ALL that counts.

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