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BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 06:57 PM Mar 2014

This is a Disgrace...

Today's Gallup Poll has Obama's approval rating at -16. 40% approve, 56% disapprove. That means he doesn't even have the full support of his party's base. What is the deal?? Why are the American people so unhappy with him? Is it the Ukraine thing?

There is NO way we're going to keep the Senate with numbers like this. Obama's approval rating was never this low a few years ago when the tea party was strong and the economy was in shambles. Now the economy is improving and the tea party is weakened...WHAT'S THE DEAL??

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This is a Disgrace... (Original Post) BlueDemKev Mar 2014 OP
Google has him at 45%. 2/17-2/23 monmouth3 Mar 2014 #1
He's fighting lies and bad press all over. Whisp Mar 2014 #2
Shit like that is why I bought a star Scootaloo Mar 2014 #3
I guess it worked then! Whisp Mar 2014 #5
Well, Obama is not running for the Senate. Tx4obama Mar 2014 #4
Thanks, that's so comforting... BlueDemKev Mar 2014 #7
The ACA is gaining strength every day..Deficit is cut in half...He’ll be the grown up in the room busterbrown Mar 2014 #12
That's my hope BlueDemKev Mar 2014 #22
TPP, XL Pipeline, Grand Bargain, TBTF, NSA, Drones, never-ending "bi-partisanship," etc. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #6
+1 The Masked Shrike Mar 2014 #25
+2 840high Mar 2014 #26
Take Heart angrychair Mar 2014 #8
Oh, I feel much better now...NOT BlueDemKev Mar 2014 #21
you sell the subject short angrychair Mar 2014 #24
Also, no prosecution or even investigation of war crimes of McChimp's administration. Hoppy Mar 2014 #9
Well then feel free to vote for Rand Paul.. busterbrown Mar 2014 #11
The Country knows exactly what happened in Iraq.. busterbrown Mar 2014 #13
You could bring charges, like a foreigner did and see what happens? They are immune. Sunlei Mar 2014 #14
Welcome to DU... and get ready to hear "you should vote for Rand Paul" a lot beerandjesus Mar 2014 #19
Angry Hateful Uniformed America otohara Mar 2014 #10
some people are disappointed because BO is not really superman. Sunlei Mar 2014 #15
The constant droning by the right of Obama's "incompetence" is having it's effect. Kablooie Mar 2014 #16
What's the deal? US News Media and ignorant Americans. Avalux Mar 2014 #17
Gallup? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #18
Yes, wtf, haven't Americans figured out that the Media is flamingdem Mar 2014 #20
Not a Carville fan, but it's the economy stupid... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #23
Certainly hasn't helped. 840high Mar 2014 #27
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
2. He's fighting lies and bad press all over.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 07:03 PM
Mar 2014

it sells, I guess. Ironically this is the DU ad on your post page.

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Not sure if I believe those numbers tho.

If this were true would you be happy or would you be sad, BlueDemKev?

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
7. Thanks, that's so comforting...
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:42 PM
Mar 2014


Obama may not be running for the Senate, but his shitty poll numbers are going to put the chamber in the hands of the tea- baggers!!

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
12. The ACA is gaining strength every day..Deficit is cut in half...He’ll be the grown up in the room
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 04:09 AM
Mar 2014

with regards to the Ukraine while repubs. make asses out of themselves.. He has acted in a very reasonable manner with regards to the Middle East Uprisings.
Instead of just claiming he has shitty numbers.. Suggest some routes he can take..

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
22. That's my hope
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:27 PM
Mar 2014

The problem is that all the progress we've made with the Affordable Care Act, reducing the deficit, and keeping America out of foreign conflicts, will all be lost if Democratic voters continue to ignore midterm elections.

WAKE UP, DEMOCRATS!!!



 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
6. TPP, XL Pipeline, Grand Bargain, TBTF, NSA, Drones, never-ending "bi-partisanship," etc.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 09:04 PM
Mar 2014

The list of serious infractions is quite lengthy.

 
25. +1
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

If Obama wants his poll numbers up, he has to at least move as far left as Eisenhower. Otherwise, your low information voter will stay at home.

angrychair

(8,685 posts)
8. Take Heart
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:53 PM
Mar 2014

Gallup was wrong all the way through and including election day 2012. I trust Gallup numbers about as much as I trust the average gOPer...which is not at all. Mid-terms will be the "tell" on where Obama really is at. Dems do good, than he is on the positive side. Dems do bad (loose Senate) than we are really lost as a country.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
21. Oh, I feel much better now...NOT
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

Have you seen all the other recent polls which has Obama's net-negative in the double-digits? There is only ONE way we can keep the Senate...have a get-out-the-vote drive which parallels 2012. Unfortunately, so many Democratic voters think midterms are unimportant. And that only reinforces the stereotype that our party is full of ignorant folks.

angrychair

(8,685 posts)
24. you sell the subject short
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:26 PM
Mar 2014

We, as a nation, don't vote. Mid-term elections typically average about 40% of registered voters. Its amazing that so many people think so little of themselves and their community that they resign themselves to so dire a fate that is well within their power to control. We average less voter participation than any other industralized nation on Earth. Three words that should be repeated often: THINK. VOTE. ACT.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
9. Also, no prosecution or even investigation of war crimes of McChimp's administration.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:56 PM
Mar 2014

I voted for Obama but I couldn't get up the steam to even give a dollar towards his campaign.


A reconciliation type of hearing might have been in order so we could see how the Iraq situation came to be and maybe prevent a repeat in with a future administration. But instead, nothing.

---yet, there are times when I really appreciate the guy.. like the video yesterday when he handled the heckler who wanted to know when he was gonna bomb Russia.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
13. The Country knows exactly what happened in Iraq..
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 04:23 AM
Mar 2014

The Polls now are showing close to a 51-32 unfavorable opinion in regards to the Iraq war.
30% of the country hates Obama and that ain't never gonna change..

Hearings on the Iraq war might be in order one day, but will not help out Obama’s poll numbers at all.


From U.S.A Today:
The polls are a reflection of him not moving hard enough to the left.. In my opinion..
By 10 percentage points, 51%-41%, Americans say the U.S. made the right decision in using military force in Afghanistan, where the Taliban had provided safe haven for the al-Qaeda terrorists who planned the 9/11 attacks. Still, that narrow majority does reflect a significant shift in views. In 2006, two-thirds of Americans said invading Afghanistan was the right decision.

But when it comes to Iraq, support for the decision to go to war has crashed. The invasion was launched in March 2003 with Bush administration officials asserting President Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, though they were never found. At the beginning, Americans by 3-1 called it the right decision.

Now, by 50%-38%, they call it the wrong one.

The poll of 1,504 adults taken Jan. 15-19 has a margin of error of +/-3 percentage points.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. You could bring charges, like a foreigner did and see what happens? They are immune.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:05 AM
Mar 2014
“The DOJ claims that in planning and waging the Iraq War, ex-President Bush and key members of his Administration were acting within the legitimate scope of their employment and are thus immune from suit,” chief counsel Inder Comar of Comar Law said.

The “Westfall Act certification,” submitted pursuant to the Westfall Act of 1988, permits the Attorney General, at his or her discretion, to substitute the United States as the defendant and essentially grant absolute immunity to government employees for actions taken within the scope of their employment.


They are not immune in many other countries, that's why they don't travel much and Cheney is a citizen of Dubai.


“Westfall Act certification" https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=21+J.+Legis.+125&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=def1c84e8e60beda05d2379b92c65662

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
19. Welcome to DU... and get ready to hear "you should vote for Rand Paul" a lot
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:36 AM
Mar 2014

Because a few of us on here say that pretty consistently, if you have the temerity to suggest Obama could move just an eentsy weentsy bit to the left.

As you just heard.

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
16. The constant droning by the right of Obama's "incompetence" is having it's effect.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:34 AM
Mar 2014

Say anything loud enough and often enough and people will begin to believe it.

The Democrats have nothing comparable to compete with.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. What's the deal? US News Media and ignorant Americans.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:14 AM
Mar 2014

When CNN, a supposed serious NEWS broadcaster spends an entire day covering the Oscars and ignores the crisis in Ukraine, we have a serious problem.

We are far from being well-informed, and are just as bad, if not worse, than our friends the Russians.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
20. Yes, wtf, haven't Americans figured out that the Media is
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:54 AM
Mar 2014

going to lie and distort in favor of the Neo-cons?

This article in Good Reads is enlightening, Obama is surrounded by hawks.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-crisis/

Faced with this resistance from his own bureaucracy, Obama began to rely on a small inner circle built around Vice President Joe Biden and a few White House advisers with the analytical support of some CIA officials, including CIA Director Leon Panetta.

Obama also found a surprising ally in Putin after he regained the Russian presidency in 2012. A Putin adviser told me that the Russian president personally liked Obama and genuinely wanted to help him resolve dangerous disputes, especially crises with Iran and Syria.

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Though Obama’s taciturn protectiveness of his “real” foreign policy may be understandable given the continued neocon “tough-guy-ism” that dominates Official Washington, Obama’s freelancing approach gave space to hawkish elements of his own administration.

For instance, Secretary of State Kerry came close to announcing a U.S. war against Syria in a bellicose speech on Aug. 30, 2013, only to see Obama pull the rug out from under him as the President worked with Putin to defuse the crisis sparked by a disputed chemical weapons attack outside Damascus.

Similarly, Obama and Putin hammered out the structure for an interim deal with Iran on how to constrain its nuclear program. But when Kerry was sent to seal that agreement in Geneva, he instead inserted new demands from the French (who were carrying water for the Saudis) and nearly screwed it all up. After getting called on the carpet by the White House, Kerry returned to Geneva and finalized the arrangements.

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