How can a Canadian,born in Alberta,run for President?Maybe Canadian Prime minster

[monkeyofstick]

I am Sam
Sam I am
From Alberta I am

Yes,free healthcare in Canada,where Ted Cruz was born.
His birth Certificate...
Dated a month after his birth on Dec. 22, 1970, it shows that Rafael Edward Cruz was born to Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, a “geophysical consultant” born in Matanzas, Cuba, and the former Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson, born in Wilmington, Del.

Her status made the baby a U.S. citizen at birth. Even though he was born in Alberta.
According to wikipedia
Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta,[2][10] where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson Darragh and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz,[13][14] were working in the oil business His parents owned a seismic-data processing firm for oil drillers.[13][18] Cruz's father, who was born in 1939 in Matanzas, Cuba, as Robert T. Garrett of the Dallas Morning News has described, "suffered beatings and imprisonment for protesting the oppressive regime" of dictator Fulgencio Batista. He fought for communist revolutionary Fidel Castro in the Cuban Revolution when he was 14 years old, but "didn't know Castro was a Communist." A few years later he became a staunch critic of Castro when "the rebel leader took control and began seizing private property and suppressing dissent." The elder Cruz fled Cuba in 1957 at the age of 18, landing in Austin, becoming a Cuban émigré, to study at the University of Texas, knowing no English and with $100 sewn into his underwear. His younger sister fought in the counter-revolution and was tortured by the new regime. He remained regretful for his early support of Castro, and emphatically conveyed this remorse to his young son over the following years. The elder Cruz worked his way through college as a dishwasher, making 50 cents an hour, earning a degree in mathematics. Cruz's father today is a pastor in Carrollton, Texas,[11] a Dallas suburb, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2005.
Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware,[14] in a family of Irish and Italian descent. She was the first person in her family to attend college. She earned an undergraduate degree in mathematics from Rice University in Houston in the 1950s, working summers at Foley's and Shell Oil. She later worked in Houston as a computer programmer at Shell. Cruz has said, "I'm Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist."
Cruz's parents returned to Houston in 1974, after working in the Alberta oil fields, when a slump hit the price of oil and they sold their first seismic data company.[11] They were divorced while Cruz was in law school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

We have absolutely no idea how long he lived in Alberta,we know that his high school was Faith West Academy in Katy, Texas,[26] and later graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian in 1988.But no listing of Grade school has been found ,unless it was in Canada.
All that I know,as veteran ,that I personally have issues with it.
Born in America...
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ”
The Twelfth Amendment states, "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase natural-born citizen. It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Under Article One of the United States Constitution, representatives and senators are only required to be U.S. citizens.
The first several presidents prior to Martin Van Buren, as well as potential presidential candidates, were born as British subjects in British America before the American Revolution.
I am not a lawyer.
I just know it makes me very uneasy.
If he was born here,not in a different country,it would be different situation.
Folks have theories about Obama.He is still in office.
But this one is right before our eyes.
What will we do? - See more at: http://conspiro.org/Thread-How-can-a-Canadian-born-in-Alberta-run-for-President-Maybe-Canadian-Prime-minester#sthash.LM7QInUZ.dpuf
I personally wrote this and posted it on the website mentioned

[Warpy]

1. His mum is American

so that gives him citizenship. If she registered his birth at the embassy, that made him a natural born citizen. There's some wiggle room in there but not much.

I'd rather disqualify him because he's insane.

[monkeyofstick]

2. Hear that sound?

LOL

I think he has issues...
I just feel Naturally Born should mean something..

Hear that sound?
That is the Founding Fathers turning in there graves...

[Nitram]

4. Being a "naturally born" citizen includes having at least one parent who is a citizen.

[monkeyofstick]

5. Naturally confused

Well,not sure.
I know that he lived there until his high-school years.
I just truly feel that the entire reason that this law was started was to keep crap like this from happening.

[Nitram]

12. It's not a law.

It's in the Constitution.

[treestar]

22. Not if you were born on US soil

[DavidDvorkin]

20. "Natural born" does mean something

It does not mean "born in the United States".

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen

[UCmeNdc]

3. Did his mother file the proper paperwork at birth?

Does Canada have paperwork from the US stating that that country released his Canadian citizenship rights to the United States? Cruz seems to be mum on the issue.

[Nitram]

14. There is no requirement to file any paperrwork at birth to qualify for citizenship

It is automatic. My sisters were both born in Cyprus in the 1950s. Both our parents are American citizens. On reaching the age of majority my sisters had the choice of 5 different citizenships. 1) U.S. by virtue of our parents, 2) Cypriot by virtue of being born in Cyprus, 3) British, by virtue of the fact that Cyprus was a British protectorate at the time 4) Greek by virtue of a Greek law that gave Greek citizenship to anyone born in Cyprus, and 5) Turkish, see #4. My sisters did nothing to declare any citizenship when they reached the age of 21, and they automatically were assumed to be U.S. citizens.

[Nay]

18. If both parents were American citizens at the time of their children's birth, this

is true. If not, as in the case of Cruz, this is not true. The US parent has a couple of hoops to jump through before the child is considered a US citizen. See my post below.

[Nay]

15. My post below will clear some of this up for you. Canada does not 'release'

citizenship rights to any other country. Cruz is a Canadian citizen until his citizenship is revoked. To relinquish his Canadian citizenship, Cruz must 1) file a 4-page document and pay about $100, and 2) prove that he is a citizen of another country, because Canada will not revoke the citizenship of a citizen who will become stateless as a result.-

If he truly has submitted the paperwork to Canada, he should have gotten the revocation months and months ago. He seems to still be stonewalling, which is VERY suspicious. Maybe Canada is requiring more proof than just a US passport to prove he is a citizen of another country -- as I said above, Canada will not revoke until he can prove he is a citizen of another country.

Maybe his original documents he used to get a US passport are not legitimate -- what, for example, would happen if the document his parents used to get him a passport at age 14 was a fake US birth certificate? That would certainly explain why he or his parents haven't produced any paperwork like an FS-240 -- they never got one, and have been using something else to 'prove' his citizenship. If that comes out, whoa. He, and his parents, are criminals. And for no reason! It is almost certain that he could have gotten an FS-240 easily, at any time after his birth! Why didn't they do that? Maybe they knew their baby WASN'T eligible for an FS-240, but again, maybe they were just lazy/felt entitled/thought the law was for the little people.

[marshall]

25. Check his college transcripts

Find out if he registered as a foreign student or a US citizen. That would be another piece of the puzzle.

[Nay]

26. Since he has had a passport since age 14 and could prove his US citizenship with

it, I don't see how checking his college transcripts would help.

[monkeyofstick]

6. It

It is a long slow process,like any other legal move.Whether it is US or Canadian,official paperwork of any kind moves slow

[csziggy]

24. No, it is not complicated to renounce Canadian citizenship

Ted Cruz still Canadian as immigration lawyers express confusion
200 Canadian citizens a year renounce their citizenship, according to government figures

The Canadian Press Posted: Jan 03, 2014 2:51 PM ET Last Updated: Jan 04, 2014 11:31 AM ET

U.S. Senator Ted Cruz vowed months ago to renounce his Canadian citizenship by the end of 2013. It's now 2014, and the Calgary-born Republican lawmaker is still a dual citizen.

"I have retained counsel that is preparing the paperwork to renounce the citizenship," the junior Texas senator, who's eyeing a run for president in 2016, said in a recent interview with the Dallas Morning News.

<SNIP>

That's confounding Canadian immigration lawyers. Renouncing Canadian citizenship, they say, is a simple, quick and straightforward process — there's even an online, four-page PDF form on the Government of Canada website to get the ball rolling without the help of lawyers.

"Unless there's a security issue that hasn't been disclosed, unless there's a mental health issue that hasn't been disclosed, there's no reason for anything other than a lickety-split process to occur," Richard Kurland, a Vancouver-based immigration attorney, said in an interview Friday.

More: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ted-cruz-still-canadian-as-immigration-lawyers-express-confusion-1.2483367

Emphasis added by me.

[Orangepeel]

7. He was born a citizen. He wasn't naturalized. He is a natural born citizen.

Also, a hypocritical extremist with very bad ideas.

[packman]

8. See , here's the difference

Canada is a predominately white country whose natives for the most part speak English and Kenya is - well, you get the point.

[monkeyofstick]

11. lol

My wife is Canadian.
She calls us racists the way we have it listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page about the amount of whites,blacks,etc in any
city.
She says that they stopped doing that back in the 70's.

[Nitram]

17. How very enlightened of Canadians!

Perhaps they don't have the history with slavery that we do, which required us to play catch up in overcoming the prejudices brought about by a century of slavery. Bringing equal rights to minorities has required the U.S. to keep track of demographic data. Btw, Canada is not entirely free of racism. I've run into virulently racist Canadians in Ontario.

[monkeyofstick]

31. Underground railroad

Between 1840 and 1860, before the American Civil War, enslaved Africans followed the North Star on the Underground Railroad to find freedom in Canada. It was not an actual railroad but a secret network of routes and safe houses that helped people escape slavery and reach free states or Canada. Sometimes there were guides available to help people find their way to the next stop along the way. Travelling on the Underground Railroad was dangerous and required luck as much as a guide.

The "railroad" actually began operating in the 1780s, but became known as the Underground Railroad in the 1830s. The organization used railroad terms as code words. Those who helped people move from place to place were known as "conductors" and the fleeing refugees were called "passengers" or "cargo." Safe places to stop to rest were called "stations." Conductors were also abolitionists—people who wanted slavery abolished. They were Blacks and Whites, men and women. Many of them were Quakers or Methodists.

Places had code names to help keep the routes secret. Detroit, from which most left the United States, was known as "Midnight." The Detroit River was called "Jordan," a biblical reference to the river that led to the promised land. The end of the journey also had a code name, such as "Dawn." People could communicate without being specific: "Take the railroad from Midnight to Dawn." The refugees arrived all across Canada, from Nova Scotia to British Columbia, but most came to what is now southwestern Ontario, to places such as Windsor, Fort Erie, Chatham and Owen Sound.

The Underground Railroad has been the subject of a certain amount of myth-making. Because of the secrecy required for its success, there hasn't been much documentation to describe its role in our history. It is impossible to know for certain how many slaves found freedom by way of the railroad, but it may have been as many as 30 000. The railroad's traffic reached its peak between 1840 and 1860, especially after the US passed its Fugitive Slave Act in 1850. The new law allowed slave hunters to pursue and capture enslaved persons in places where they would legally be free. It resulted in several attempts to kidnap escapees in Canada and return them to former owners in the Southern States.

Some of the conductors and others associated with the railroad became famous for their efforts; Harriet Tubman, Mary Ann Shadd and Josiah Henson are but a few.

The Historica Minute Underground Railroad presents a dramatization of the type of imaginative methods that may have been used to move people from place to place. Apply what you understand about the operation of the Underground Railroad as you view the vignette.
http://www.blackhistorycanada.ca/events.php?themeid=21&id=6

Canada is real big on human rights.
You will find @$$holes everywhere.It is full of many nationalities in Canada since the 70's.
But the world is still filled with folks that are not ok on the inside so they find targets outside themselves.
Bad human nature..

[monkeyofstick]

9. He just freaks me out

Wiki
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ”
The Twelfth Amendment states, "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The Fourteenth Amendment does not use the phrase natural-born citizen. It does provide that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Under Article One of the United States Constitution, representatives and senators are only required to be U.S. citizens.[2][3]
The first several presidents prior to Martin Van Buren, as well as potential presidential candidates, were born as British subjects in British America before the American Revolution.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause
But also
Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.
So somehow,as irrational,destructive,distasteful as it may be,some freaking lawyer set it up so her womb may have spit out the master of destruction...
I just have issues with it...
Smiling like a cereal killer
lol

[Nay]

10. This again. Please read the following, which I've posted in a thread 6 months

ago over this issue. There are a couple of oddities about Cruz's US citizenship: How did he acquire a US passport at age 14 with no documentation? Those who ask for his documentation of US citizenship understand that his passport, which is definitive, proves he is a citizen,but how did he get that passport? Further, what documentation did he use, up until age 14, to establish a SS number, go to US schools, etc.? The fact that he has NO documentation other than a US passport, which was issued when he was 14, is very odd, IMHO. The fact that he or his parents just didn't pull out the FS-240 (State Dept. form of a US birth abroad) when his Canadian birth certificate was circulated makes me think his parents never applied for one. It is not required, but if he didn't have one, what proof did he use to get a US passport? He or his parents could have applied for an FS-240 at any time (and would have had to prove certain things as outline below), but did they? Exactly how did he qualify for a US passport? It should be easy-peasy to produce those documents. Why he has not done that is a mystery.

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Cruz is a Canadian citizen because he has a Canadian birth certificate. Period.

It is my understanding that Cruz is a US citizen since he has a US passport. The passport would not have been issued if he were not a citizen through his mother's US citizenship or through efforts of his own as an adult to establish prove his citizenship. The US Dept of State says:

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.

Here the State Dept talks about the F-240:

A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.

According to U.S. law, a CRBA is proof of U.S. citizenship and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport and register for school, among other purposes.

The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.

Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.

Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen (CRBA, or Form FS-240)

If you are a U.S. citizen and have a child overseas, you should report his or her birth as soon as possible so that, if the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) can be issued as an official record of his/her U.S. citizenship. Report the birth of your child abroad at the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Check the American Citizens Services portion of the webpage for the embassy or consulate closest to where your child was born for further instructions about how to apply for a CRBA. Please note:

A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. citizen is only issued to a child who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth and who is generally under the age of 18 at the time of the application.
The U.S. embassy or consulate will provide one original copy of an eligible child’s Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen.



IOW, if his parents did not legally establish that he was a citizen around the time of his birth, this does NOT mean he cannot ever be considered a US citizen from birth; it only means that, as an adult, he would have a few more hoops to jump through (i.e., proving his parents were married, proving that his mother had resided in the US for a total of 10 yrs before the birth, etc.)

What's odd about Cruz is that he is pretending to not know he has a Canadian birth certificate! I don't know about other people, but all through my life I had to pull out my birth certificate for every damn thing -- school, work, job apps, etc. So what the hell is Cruz pulling by saying he didn't know? If he has an F-240, produce it. It's as good as a birth certificate--for everything.

*********

Again, the mystery revolves around how he proved he was a US citizen before he was 14, and what documents he or his parents used to get him a US passport. It should be simple to produce those documents.

Secondly, at this stage, why hasn't he produced the paperwork that he has applied for and received a revocation letter from Canada, revoking his Canadian citizenship? It's an easy 4-page form plus $100 CD. With Cruz's high profile, his paperwork would have zipped through and he'd have that letter in no time. But, according to the Canadian govt. website, Canada will not issue a citizenship revocation if the revocation will make the citizen stateless.

So, I suspect there is something hinky about his paperwork for his US passport. I don't doubt he is a US citizen, since his mother seems to have passed the qualifications, but there's probably something wrong with his paperwork and he doesn't want that to become known.

[monkeyofstick]

13. I agree

I feel like something is going on...just to much...
His birth certicate is on http://conspiro.org/Thread-How-can-a-Canadian-born-in-Alberta-run-for-President-Maybe-Canadian-Prime-minester
But I hear you loud and clear.
I think he is like my cat...all about attention..not about responsibility.

[monkeyofstick]

16. Add it up

Again, the mystery revolves around how he proved he was a US citizen before he was 14, and what documents he or his parents used to get him a US passport. It should be simple to produce those documents.

Secondly, at this stage, why hasn't he produced the paperwork that he has applied for and received a revocation letter from Canada, revoking his Canadian citizenship? It's an easy 4-page form plus $100 CD. With Cruz's high profile, his paperwork would have zipped through and he'd have that letter in no time. But, according to the Canadian govt. website, Canada will not issue a citizenship revocation if the revocation will make the citizen stateless.

So, I suspect there is something hinky about his paperwork for his US passport. I don't doubt he is a US citizen, since his mother seems to have passed the qualifications, but there's probably something wrong with his paperwork and he doesn't want that to become known.

If he spent his youth in Canada,about 13 would be the time he joined his High School,sometime around there anyway.
Not a mathematician..but I am sure that he spent his first few years there.
I found a High school pic of Crack smoking Rob Ford...going to be on the search for one of him...unless the Billdebergers's made it disappear..
OK...No more conspiracy stuff...

[libodem]

19. He should be ripped on daily

For not being a citizen and deported as dangerous. But they do it. Waaaambulance.

[Sunlei]

21. Mom is an American citizen, so Cruz is US and Canadian citizen..has he invested in Canada used

his Canadian citizenship benefits? Cruz said he was going to file the paper to not be a Canadian anymore. did he?

We should never elect American citizens, (or let them be involved in politics like Cheney) who carry duel citizenships and use the foreign countries citizenship to benefit themselves in any way.

[Nay]

27. Not necessarily true. Please see my post above before you claim that he is

automatically a US citizen because his mom is. It's not that simple when only one parent is a US citizen and the baby is born outside the US.

[Sunlei]

30. read your post above and I agree.

something very fishy about young Cruz and his Fathers 'escape' from Cuba. People got away with a lot of faked birth certificates back in those paper file days.

[cali]

23. great du birthers!. It's just as jaw droppingly stupid

as freeper birthers. sorry.

[Nay]

28. No, it's not crazy. There are specific rules that apply to Cruz's birth that never

applied to Obama. First, Obama was born in Hawaii and it wouldn't have mattered if BOTH his parents were not US citizens -- he would still be a US citizen.

Please read the State Dept. excerpts from my post above about the specific US residency hoops his mother would have had to jump through to claim US citizenship for her baby, since he was NOT born in the US and DID NOT have 2 US citizens as parents at the time of his birth.

The curious thing about it all is that he does not seem to have the usual form, the FS-240, that would certify him as a US citizen -- that simple piece of paper, which he or his parents can apply for even at this late date, would clear everything up immediately. How come they don't have it? If they don't have it, how did he ever get a US passport? What proof did his parents produce when their son was 14 that allowed him to receive a US passport? That's all people are wondering about, and it's a very legitimate question, especially since the idiot Pubs went on and on about Obama's citizenship. Here there is a very legitimate request for something beside a US passport to prove that Cruz is a citizen, and he doesn't have anything? Who in this country only has a US passport as proof of citizenship? Nobody. Because you have to have some other proof that you are a US citizen to get a US passport.

[whistler162]

29. Check the number if posts.... probably a birther(PERIOD).

[monkeyofstick]

32. hmmm

A Canadian told me that the birth certificate is like the ones they use now,that back then the certificates were basically
on a white background and were not like the one he has shown.
idk

[Iggo]

33. "Her status made the baby a U.S. citizen at birth."

[apnu]

34. Except to the Republicans the same does not apply to the President.

But hey, that's OK, they get one set of rules we get another right?