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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:10 AM Apr 2014

Hillary Clinton Claims Partisanship Is Taking The Country Backwards

NEW YORK (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday night that excessive partisanship flowing through the nation's political system is causing the U.S. to march "backwards instead of forward" and pointed to fall elections as a sign of how the country might tackle problems.

The former secretary of state reflected on her time at the State Department, the U.S. relationship with Russia and the advice she gives to young women during her appearance at the annual Women in the World summit. But when the moderator asked her to address the nation's future, Clinton cited the need to "get back to evidence-based decision-making."

"There is just pure ideology, pure partisanship. We disguise a commercial interest behind a political facade and the result is that we're kind of marching backwards instead of forward," Clinton said. She said the U.S. needs to address economic hardships facing many young people to produce an "inclusive prosperity."

The potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate noted that "we have an election coming up this year. And we ought to be paying attention to that because that will set the parameters for a lot of what can and should be done."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/03/hillary-clinton-partisanship_n_5088267.html

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Hillary Clinton Claims Partisanship Is Taking The Country Backwards (Original Post) jakeXT Apr 2014 OP
And of course the implication is that "both sides are guilty" of this terrible partisanship tularetom Apr 2014 #1
I call this type of rhetoric 'jello words' because most people can snappyturtle Apr 2014 #3
That is not what I got from it... Evergreen Emerald Apr 2014 #9
yep, that's the message that Dems are the same! She's running! gack. Whisp Apr 2014 #17
Exactly, typical Hillary "Third Way" bullshit. Time for her to leave the stage. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #29
Isn't this exactly what President Obama said in 2008? Walk away Apr 2014 #33
Oh, not the "bipartisanship" thing again. All that means is appeasing the GOP. Happily. djean111 Apr 2014 #2
We got enough "bipartisanship".. sendero Apr 2014 #12
The "evidence-based decision-making" line should be a clue Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #15
She should have had the guts to just say it. Where's this 'toughness' bragged about? n/t Whisp Apr 2014 #18
"Evidence-based decision making" sounds good, but wtf does it mean? tularetom Apr 2014 #21
Well the evidence.. sendero Apr 2014 #22
Ready for Hillary ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #4
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Apr 2014 #5
Isn't that what we have been saying here for a long damn time liberal N proud Apr 2014 #6
That's basically the situation. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #8
The Republicans keep talking about how awful things are in this country Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #16
The Republicans are taking the country backwards BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #7
Clinton Robbins Apr 2014 #10
Her most important comment was "..the need to "get back to evidence-based decision-making" ladjf Apr 2014 #11
Most thinking people can figure out which party for whom that is important Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #19
an historical analysis of 'partisanship' (can't find it) showed the period starting early 1990's certainot Apr 2014 #13
Good for Hillary hollowdweller Apr 2014 #14
She's right. "we have an election coming up this year. And we ought to be paying attention to that b Sunlei Apr 2014 #20
Oh please, the usual hand wringing around here every time Hillary utters a word. Beacool Apr 2014 #23
don't let the negative nellies get you down Bea. grab your best bankie and relax by the fire... dionysus Apr 2014 #24
Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. Beacool Apr 2014 #25
You know bipartisanship just means surrendering to the Tea Party on all issues Ken Burch Apr 2014 #28
What she says at a women's forum, and what she would do as president, Beacool Apr 2014 #31
True dat - if Hillary is a progressive, guess that makes Ted Cruz a moderate InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #32
How about racism Hillary? lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #26
In other words, she wants the post-1994 part of Bill's administration back Ken Burch Apr 2014 #27
She's absolutely correct. elleng Apr 2014 #30
Isn't it the job of a Secretary of State to be a "minister" and talk a lot of friendly-empty words? Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #34
"and that's why we need One Party--to UNITE us all" nt MisterP Apr 2014 #35

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. And of course the implication is that "both sides are guilty" of this terrible partisanship
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:21 AM
Apr 2014

Bland rhetoric designed not to piss off anybody.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
3. I call this type of rhetoric 'jello words' because most people can
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:36 AM
Apr 2014

tolerate them and they're easy to swallow. Junk.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
33. Isn't this exactly what President Obama said in 2008?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:43 PM
Apr 2014

Then everybody understood that parroting far left rhetoric will only get you elected president of DU. If you want to run for president you have to be prepared to reach out to the other side. Unless Democrats get off their asses and vote in 2014 and keep the Senate and take back the house.
Then anyone can run for president.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Oh, not the "bipartisanship" thing again. All that means is appeasing the GOP. Happily.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:30 AM
Apr 2014

Incremental slashes instead of big ones.
Just campaign blather, so far.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
12. We got enough "bipartisanship"..
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:35 AM
Apr 2014

... from her husband. The repeal of Glass-Stegall, the passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, NAFTA, DCMA, really Hillary, we cannot afford any more of this nonsense.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
15. The "evidence-based decision-making" line should be a clue
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:00 PM
Apr 2014

that she is referring to Republicans, not Democrats (or "both sides&quot .

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
21. "Evidence-based decision making" sounds good, but wtf does it mean?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:06 PM
Apr 2014

If she is referring to republicans she should have the guts to come out and say so.

If she is thinking of walking the tightrope between the parties it won't help her in the primaries. Democratic primary voters won't be happy with a candidate who spouts that turd way BS.

And if she starts babbling about a "more muscular foreign policy", she might as well just put an R after her name.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
22. Well the evidence..
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:59 PM
Apr 2014

.... for NAFTA, repealing Glass-Stegall and the Commodity Futures Modernation Act is in. They are all EPIC failures for everyone but the 1%.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
6. Isn't that what we have been saying here for a long damn time
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:53 AM
Apr 2014

The partisan ways of obstruction the GOP has rendered upon the country is literally stalling if not causing regression in this country.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
16. The Republicans keep talking about how awful things are in this country
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:07 PM
Apr 2014

and how we're losing our "stature" in the world- and they would know it because they are the ones bringing it about. When they make government so terribly dysfunctional and when they go out in public- in front of the world- and denounce the President for being "weak" and then they wonder why the rest of the world- and Putin- thinks of us being "weak" in turn? The Republicans have no trouble disrespecting the office when they are out of power but they sure as heck demand it when they are in power.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
7. The Republicans are taking the country backwards
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:25 AM
Apr 2014

I hope to live long enough to hear our standard-bearer, whoever it is, say it and nothing but.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
10. Clinton
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:59 AM
Apr 2014

If she Is running In 2016 why would she say this.

This shows the clintons have learned nothing. She will run In primarys like a general election candiate.

Bipartisan talk means she will be just like her husband. The bill Clinton traingulation which brought us deregurlation and defense of
marriage act will be norm of Hillary clinton Wh maybe she would give republicans repeal of Obamacare In Bipartisanship

If you think Obama has been too easy on Corporations what makes you think Hillary will be an Improvements

Bill Clinton threw single mothers to wolves with him signing the republican wellfare reform.

Many here agree Obama has tried way too much to work with republicans.Does anyone think Hillary would be any different or worse after speech like this.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
11. Her most important comment was "..the need to "get back to evidence-based decision-making"
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:06 AM
Apr 2014

evidence-based = objective thinking rather than subjective-thinking which requires no evidence or proof.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
19. Most thinking people can figure out which party for whom that is important
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:14 PM
Apr 2014

and which party for whom it is not.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
13. an historical analysis of 'partisanship' (can't find it) showed the period starting early 1990's
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:52 AM
Apr 2014

beats all other periods in history in sustained partisanship, and it coincides perfectly with the formation of the 1200 strong rw radio monopoly- which the left has ignored

rw radio is the perfect tool (loud dominant and ignored by the left) for enforcing partisanship locally and nationally- pushing the loons in the primaries, shaming intimidating and purging moderates, and enforcing the lock-stepping.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
14. Good for Hillary
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:52 AM
Apr 2014


Evidence based decision making.

Inclusive Prosperity.

Now I want to hear her ideas for promoting those things.

If it's imploring or corporate overlords to allow a few more crumbs to fall from their table then I'll call BS.

If it's raising the min wage, giving people more protections to unionize and making sure people are paid a living wage I'll send her a donation!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. She's right. "we have an election coming up this year. And we ought to be paying attention to that b
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:52 PM
Apr 2014

"we have an election coming up this year. And we ought to be paying attention to that because that will set the parameters for a lot of what can and should be done."

The only Democracy we have is our one vote. Once elected, our 'Republic' takes over & the elected will do what they want.

I don't think Mrs. Clinton wants to run for President. But this year if the Ds don't turn out to vote and a bunch of Rs squeeker in and infest our Gov even worse, it won't matter who is President in 2016.



Beacool

(30,247 posts)
23. Oh please, the usual hand wringing around here every time Hillary utters a word.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:28 PM
Apr 2014

Who do you think she was referring to when she made these comments?

The former secretary of state reflected on her time at the State Department, the U.S. relationship with Russia and the advice she gives to young women during her appearance at the annual Women in the World summit. But when the moderator asked her to address the nation's future, Clinton cited the need to "get back to evidence-based decision-making."

"There is just pure ideology, pure partisanship. We disguise a commercial interest behind a political facade and the result is that we're kind of marching backwards instead of forward," Clinton said. She said the U.S. needs to address economic hardships facing many young people to produce an "inclusive prosperity."

The potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate noted that "we have an election coming up this year. And we ought to be paying attention to that because that will set the parameters for a lot of what can and should be done."



 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
28. You know bipartisanship just means surrendering to the Tea Party on all issues
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:22 PM
Apr 2014

Like Bill did after 1994.

This proves she can't be a progressive president. Why pretend otherwise.

You deserve a better candidate, Bea.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. What she says at a women's forum, and what she would do as president,
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:31 PM
Apr 2014

are not necessarily the same thing. There's a place and time for everything.

I'll worry about it when and if she runs.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
27. In other words, she wants the post-1994 part of Bill's administration back
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:21 PM
Apr 2014

and that's what HER presidency would be like.

So much for the "she's going to be more progressive than he was" crowd. This proves them wrong.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
34. Isn't it the job of a Secretary of State to be a "minister" and talk a lot of friendly-empty words?
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:09 PM
Apr 2014

Some jobs just don't call for banging your fist on the table, dropping the F bomb, and sticking up your finger at them lol

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