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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:34 PM Apr 2014

New Poll: GOP In Danger Of Losing House In November

A newly released poll from Public Policy Polling shows that the GOP is by no means assured of retaining control of the House after the mid-term elections next fall. Apparently, a major factor in turning the electorate against many Republican incumbents was their vote to shut the government down last October.

Although they tried to place the blame on the President and Senate Democrats, it has long been apparent that the voting public is not gullible, knowing that it was the House Republicans and their determination to find a way to repeal Obamacare who were actually responsible for the shutdown.


http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/devastating-new-poll-gop-danger-losing


The Democratic Party still needs an outstanding GOTV effort.

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New Poll: GOP In Danger Of Losing House In November (Original Post) UCmeNdc Apr 2014 OP
K&R x 1000! Nictuku Apr 2014 #1
+1 K&R! n/t fleabiscuit Apr 2014 #51
All the more reason to GOTV! Let's bury them in votes against them!!! n/t woodsprite Apr 2014 #2
Not to be buzzkill but this data is from October nt liskddksil Apr 2014 #3
Yes, and by the time the November elections roll around... bulloney Apr 2014 #35
Not a "New Poll" at all demwing Apr 2014 #36
it has long been apparent that the voting public is not gullible Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2014 #4
That was my first thought as well rep the dems Apr 2014 #18
the infinite wisdom of the average American voter Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2014 #41
Only if we get off our assess and vote! santamargarita Apr 2014 #5
True that. Rozlee Apr 2014 #16
How true...maybe we need our own wedge issue? santamargarita Apr 2014 #23
Steal pot legalization out from under the noses of libertarians. n/t Rozlee Apr 2014 #24
Not so much quakerboy Apr 2014 #34
That's misleading demwing Apr 2014 #38
Keep reminding everyone of the 21 Billion it cost us. nt okaawhatever Apr 2014 #6
a democratic party inc with any brains would have a field day with issues.... msongs Apr 2014 #7
If the 18 to 30 crowd turns out to vote anywhere above 50% randr Apr 2014 #8
Wow. Where did THAT come from? Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #9
The poll is eight months old. former9thward Apr 2014 #11
The poll was taken Oct. 2-4 ybbor Apr 2014 #10
Even Silver will tell you that his predictions are snapshots . . . MrModerate Apr 2014 #15
Does DU have a GOTV avatar? jwirr Apr 2014 #12
I'm not surprised by that. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #13
The party also needs a platform Doctor_J Apr 2014 #14
Well, not just steal their talking points BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #25
The party needs Howard Dean back. freebrew Apr 2014 #44
That would be some sweet justice. Chemisse Apr 2014 #17
Kick! nt lillypaddle Apr 2014 #19
Good news!!! dicksmc3 Apr 2014 #20
It's like watching children become excited when they discover last year's Halloween candy Android3.14 Apr 2014 #21
Get Out The VOTE!!! nt IronLionZion Apr 2014 #22
They lost their minds so they might as well lose the House too. SummerSnow Apr 2014 #26
It won't happen UNLESS <<YOU>> get out and vote against the GOP this Nov. !!! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #27
Only if Democrats break the mold and go out to vote. Kablooie Apr 2014 #28
When an article states 4_TN_TITANS Apr 2014 #29
LOL, how is a poll from October considered "new"? fujiyama Apr 2014 #30
Dems will always need an Awesome GOTV!! thanks for this, UC Cha Apr 2014 #31
OLD POLL progressoid Apr 2014 #32
Why is this recced so much? BlindTiresias Apr 2014 #33
Unlikely saratunia Apr 2014 #37
Very true. Due to Gerrymandering, the House is very unlikely. Trust Buster Apr 2014 #40
Even with Gerrymandering, there are at least 25 swing districts BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #45
The very existence of the United States was unlikely at one point IronLionZion Apr 2014 #43
One of many issues democratic members could run on 4dsc Apr 2014 #39
This poll is from October 2013. toddwv Apr 2014 #42
Oh, how I wish....but.... Hulk Apr 2014 #46
please vote. we can get rid of the R blight easy if people would please, vote! Sunlei Apr 2014 #47
Sensible Woodchuck Democrats don't actually want to win midterms... no foil for 2016 if they win yodermon Apr 2014 #48
That is not a new poll. totodeinhere Apr 2014 #49
Cue a flurry of contradictory polls in 3... 2... n/t winter is coming Apr 2014 #50
Seriously? A poll taken in the midst of the shutdown itself is a "new" poll? onenote Apr 2014 #52
Not worthwhile...this is a "generic" ballot matchup brooklynite Apr 2014 #53
Our issue needs to be that 24 states have people dying for lack of Medicaid McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #54
I hope this is true and not just wishful thinking. tclambert Apr 2014 #55
Many of us--myself included--have always believed that Obamacare IS the issue that will help DEMS... Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2014 #56
great news! n/t RainDog Apr 2014 #57
Brace yourselves for the incoming swarm. Socal31 Apr 2014 #58

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
35. Yes, and by the time the November elections roll around...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:27 AM
Apr 2014

voters will vote the assholes back in. Congress has a horrible approval rating, but more than 95% of incumbents get re-elected. There's the money factor, giving incumbents a huge advantage over any challenger. Plus, voters are in denial that their congressman is part of the problem because of party loyalty. There's another sector that is of the mindset, "He may be an asshole, but he's OUR asshole." Examples: David Vitter and Mark Sanford.

I've said for years that if the people of my county were half as loyal to their faith as they are to their politics, this whole county would be up for sainthood.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
36. Not a "New Poll" at all
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:40 AM
Apr 2014

This predates the flawed rollout of Obamacare. What value does it have now?

rep the dems

(1,689 posts)
18. That was my first thought as well
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 06:03 PM
Apr 2014

This is more a case of a blind squirrel finding a nut once in a while than the infinite wisdom of the average American voter. Good news regardless.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
41. the infinite wisdom of the average American voter
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:52 AM
Apr 2014

Is such that I am amazed when one demonstrates the ability to tie his own shoes.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
16. True that.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 05:51 PM
Apr 2014

We got shellacked in 2010 because Democrat voters didn't bother going to the polls. History will repeat itself again in 2012 if we follow the same pattern. The rank-and-file Democrat has a habit of forgetting that there's anything beyond 4-year presidential election cycles.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
34. Not so much
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 05:38 AM
Apr 2014

We got "shellacked" in 2010 because Independents voted for Republicans.

We lost about 5% percent with Democrats not showing up to vote in 2010, though the percentage of the electorate claiming to be liberal stayed fairly steady. But what really hurt us was the so called independents and moderates not bothering to show up and vote, or flipping their votes. Independents went 51% for democrats in 2008, but only 37% for democrats in 2010.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
38. That's misleading
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:06 AM
Apr 2014

Youths and minority turn out dropped a few points, but what really nailed us is that Independents broke for the Republicans, and elderly white voters increased turnout. We were overwhelmed and ill-prepared for the racial backlash.

msongs

(67,394 posts)
7. a democratic party inc with any brains would have a field day with issues....
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:15 PM
Apr 2014

republicans want to take away your social security
republicans want to take away your health care
republicans want to deport you and your family (oops, can't use that one)
republicans want to take away your right to vote
republicans want to take away your right to choose
etc

randr

(12,409 posts)
8. If the 18 to 30 crowd turns out to vote anywhere above 50%
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:16 PM
Apr 2014

the Democrats can not lose. The future is in their hands.
Along with a strong turnout from the women.

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
10. The poll was taken Oct. 2-4
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 05:15 PM
Apr 2014

That was a long time ago.

I hope it is relevant today, but what took so long getting it out to the public?

I had been very optimistic until Nate Silver's prediction last month. Perhaps he did not have this data to use, although he was speaking of the Senate and this is the House.

Just wondering.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
15. Even Silver will tell you that his predictions are snapshots . . .
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 05:33 PM
Apr 2014

Usually based on 'if the election was held today.' Things can change -- and will, if we do our part.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
13. I'm not surprised by that.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 05:26 PM
Apr 2014

The MSM has been pushing the gloom-and-doom-for-Democrats meme. The problem is, most people don't get their information from the MSM any more. Or, their own reality says otherwise, and they aren't buying it.

I suspect that the latest Supreme Court campaign finance decision also has a hand in these results. People see the political leanings of the justices who voted in favor of it, as well as the politicians who are defending it. And, they know what will happen if those people take over the House, too.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. The party also needs a platform
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 05:28 PM
Apr 2014

Obama and Reid and Pelosi need to get on board with Sanders and Warren and Grayson.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
25. Well, not just steal their talking points
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:53 PM
Apr 2014

Because we've already got that. Everyone gets real liberal around election time. Funny that.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
44. The party needs Howard Dean back.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:19 AM
Apr 2014

We need his 50 state strategy. I didn't vote in the April election here. Why? There weren't ANY Democrats running for office in the primary here. Which will mean that Vicki Hartzler(Teabagger) will be back in the house, all of our idiot repub state legislators will be RWNJ controlled, and since this is Nixon's last term, we'll have a RWNJ governor again.

The Democratic party needs to get their act together. Seriously!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
21. It's like watching children become excited when they discover last year's Halloween candy
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 06:37 PM
Apr 2014

The data is seven months old.
The only positive thing about this poll is that it shows we might have a chance in the next seven months to turn things back around. You might as well base your gasoline budget on pump prices from last October.
God, why do so many progressives live in fricken' La-La Land?

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
28. Only if Democrats break the mold and go out to vote.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:00 PM
Apr 2014

You'd think getting our own side to help defeat insanity would be easy but it's harder than getting Republicans to turn on their own.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
29. When an article states
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:36 PM
Apr 2014

"that the voting public is not gullible", I'm very suspicious. WTF happened in Congress from 1994 to 2006 ???

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
30. LOL, how is a poll from October considered "new"?
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 12:58 AM
Apr 2014

I know you didn't write that. C and L did. I don't know what their definition of "new" is. This may as well be a poll from 2012. It's well known that in politics that circumstances can change in an instant.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but delusion isn't healthy. The gerrymandering alone is tough to get past. And then there's even more restrictive voter laws, on top of a sense of apathy and discontent among democratic constituencies. And this was before all the media hype over Obamacare (though it's recent successes have yet to be reflected in polls), and a million other things going on...none of which have really boosted the Democrats' chances in the fall.

In all honesty, I'd be thrilled if Dems can hold on to the Senate at this point. The House seems gone for at least two election cycles, though if Hillary has strong coattails in '16, then maybe we'll see a flip sooner.

saratunia

(1 post)
37. Unlikely
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:49 AM
Apr 2014

Fact is Republicans are far more likely to take control of the Senate than Democrats to take the House.

BumRushDaShow

(128,779 posts)
45. Even with Gerrymandering, there are at least 25 swing districts
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:19 AM
Apr 2014

where R's in those Districts were, as noted in many articles, supposedly willing to end the shutdown (knowing their margins were thin in those districts). Dems only need 17 of those. A couple of those Districts are right here in PA (e.g., 6th, 7th & 8th Congressional).

This one (6th) is especially being targeted - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/gerlach-retirement-opens-up-swing-district-in-pennsylvania/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

So far there are 43 retirements that have been announced (24 R's & 19 Ds) and some pickups are definitely possible with a good GOTV effort -

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/members/113/house/departures

IronLionZion

(45,418 posts)
43. The very existence of the United States was unlikely at one point
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:56 AM
Apr 2014

we can do anything we put our mind to if enough of us show up to the polls. There are competitive districts out there, because of gerrymandering! GOP tried to remove dem districts by redistributing voters into other districts, which has put some of them in play.

Welcome to DU

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
39. One of many issues democratic members could run on
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:31 AM
Apr 2014

and win. Republicans have given our party more than enough ammunition to win come November. IF only we have candidates who are not afraid to use them against republicans.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
42. This poll is from October 2013.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:04 AM
Apr 2014

I'd love to see the GOP lose the House, but the poll is based on the after-effects of the Tea Party instigated government shutdown.

Unfortunately, the US populace has a short political memory for things like this and, while it may weigh in as a part of their overall ideology, it probably simply doesn't have the umpfh it once had.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
46. Oh, how I wish....but....
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:46 AM
Apr 2014

I wouldn't count on it. We aren't playing with characters that play by any ethical rules. These mf'ers have, and WILL do anything to win elections - right down to out in the open cheating. I'm not putting any faith in this post...none!

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
48. Sensible Woodchuck Democrats don't actually want to win midterms... no foil for 2016 if they win
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 11:33 AM
Apr 2014

congress.
#shallacking nod wink

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
49. That is not a new poll.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 12:59 PM
Apr 2014
The poll was commissioned by Moveon.org last fall and found that there are at least 17 seats that could be in jeopardy come November.


These are some of the latest polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/house/

onenote

(42,686 posts)
52. Seriously? A poll taken in the midst of the shutdown itself is a "new" poll?
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 01:51 PM
Apr 2014

I've heard of grasping at straws, but this is ridiculous.

brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
53. Not worthwhile...this is a "generic" ballot matchup
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:38 PM
Apr 2014

Until you have candidate vs candidate numbers, it's not worth polling.

BTW - I've spoken to a number of (D) Candidates in this cycle, and almost none think that, nationwide, we're likely to take back the House.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
54. Our issue needs to be that 24 states have people dying for lack of Medicaid
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 03:23 PM
Apr 2014

If the House was in Democratic hands, those people would have health care now, because the House would have fixed it.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
56. Many of us--myself included--have always believed that Obamacare IS the issue that will help DEMS...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 04:25 PM
Apr 2014

...but too many Dems are cowards and won't fight back.

Is Obamacare (ACA) perfect? Hell, no! I want single payer or at least a public option, damnit!

However, is it much better than what's now in place? Hell, yes!! And Democrats--of ALL stripes--need to get out there and sing it from the hillstops if we want to save this nation from the likes of Rand Paul and Susanah Martinez!!

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
58. Brace yourselves for the incoming swarm.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 06:07 AM
Apr 2014

Be vary suspicious of anyone who tries to suggest that November is a foregone conclusion, either way.

(Not suggesting OP is one of them)

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