Boehner: "Obamacare resulted in ‘net loss’ of people wth health insurance"- a Crock, WaPo factcheckr

[Bill USA]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/17/boehners-claim-that-obamacare-has-resulted-in-a-net-loss-of-people-with-health-insurance/

(emphases my own)

Reporter: “Mr. Speaker, you said a minute ago there are fewer people today with health insurance than when the law was passed. I want to make sure I understand. You’re saying that Obamacare has resulted in a net loss of insurance?”

House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio): “I believe that to be the case. When you look at the 6 million Americans who have lost their policies and some — they claim 4.2 million people who have signed up — I don’t know how many have actually paid for it — that would indicate to me a net loss of people with health insurance. And I actually do believe that to be the case.”

– Exchange at Boehner’s weekly news conference, March 13


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The Facts

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A large percentage of the people whose old plans were canceled were automatically moved to new plans offered by the same insurance companies. These people may not be happy with their new coverage — and may have appeared in an ad sponsored by Americans for Prosperity — but they got a plan without going through HealthCare.gov. (Here’s an example of such a letter, courtesy of our colleagues at PolitiFact.)

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Meanwhile, other people are being added to the insurance rolls who are not reflected in the HealthCare.gov numbers.

First, an estimated 3.1 million Americans younger than 26 joined their parents’ plans because of a provision that took effect in September 2010. One big caveat about that Health and Human Services Department estimate is that it is about two years old — and has never been updated.

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There also are low-income Americans who are flocking to Medicaid because of the law’s expansion of that program.[/font]

The Fact Checker has been critical of the administration’s Medicaid numbers, but there is little doubt that many people are gaining insurance through this route. Through January, the health consulting firm Avalere estimates that at least 2.4 million people got insurance for the first time through the Medicaid expansion. That’s the lowest estimate — others put it as high as 5.6 million, including people previously eligible but not signed up, through mid-March. [font size="3"]But even so, that’s more than enough to demonstrate that no matter how you count it, there has been no net loss in insurance coverage.[/font]
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Note there is much more to the WaPo article and it should be read in its entirety.

I posted this to make it known there are plenty of facts (which will acquire some firm numbers in the coming months) to show that the GOP claim that 5 million lost their coverage is simply a Big Lie. It's good to have some familiarity with these facts to help stuff such Bullshit down the throats of braying conservative Republican suckers - as the need arises.

[bigdarryl]

1. Boner has been drinking again

Who the fuck believes his bullshit statement

[Thinkingabout]

2. Now everybody believe Boehner believes so therefore it is. He also

Believes ACA should be repealed so much he has lead 50 times to repeal ACA, did he believe any of those 50 times the Senate was going to vote to repeal the bill and President was going to sign the repeal. A delusional speaker with a delusional belief Americans does not like health care.

[wandy]

3. Its not the truth that matters here...........

What matters is what the rank and file Teapublican believes is the truth.
And these lying GOP bastards damn well know it.

How many people lost insurance?
Pick a number.
Who caused the green eggs and ham government shutdown?
Obama of course.
How may of Bundy's cows were killed by the BLM?
Pick a number.

The GOP has gone well beyond 'stretching the truth' and are just making things up as they go along.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Yep...those magic words...

"I believe," therefore nothing presented to me in the guise of facts matters.

[sakabatou]

5. He can't stop lying, can he?

[yellowcanine]

6. "Knock Knock." "Who's there?" "Orange." "Orange who?"

"Orange you glad I'm not a lying banana?"

[gottafly]

7. The orange one

Needs to focus less on Obamacare and more on his liver and lungs...

[Skip Intro]

8. Everybody is trying to spin the ACA. The truth is mixed. The net is unknown at this point.

My sister has lost access to her pain doctors (unless she wants to pay them out of pocket), including one who finally got some results for her chronic back and leg pain (nerve pain).

She had her long-worked-for appointment at the Mayo clinic in Jacksonville cancelled because they do not accept her marketplace plan, just as her pain doctors do not.

So she's "covered," as the saying goes, but she's not being served. She's being harmed. All this is after she was repeatedly assured, by exchange representatives (who kept her calling back for two months, telling her something different each time) and the newly-ACA-created "Consumers Choice" insurance cooperative who she chose on the exchange, that she would be covered with those places and doctors. But it just wasn't true. Now that she has it, she's come to realize she isn't really covered at all.

All spinning aside, there's some shady shit going on here. Being "covered" doesn't mean access to the doctor you've come to trust. Or access to any specific type of specialists. Unless you can afford the silver or platinum plans (and maybe not even then). Talk about inequality.