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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Fri May 11, 2012, 04:51 PM May 2012

Reid has finally crossed the Rubicon on changing the filibuster

Take back the House, keep the Senate by a vote and change the filibuster.




http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76189.html


An angry Harry Reid took to the floor Thursday and demanded changes to the Senate’s hallowed filibuster rules, siding with junior Democrats who have sought to substantially weaken the powerful delaying tactic.

It’s a risky move for the Senate majority leader, who could find himself in the minority in a matter of months and need the filibuster to block the GOP’s agenda. But Reid — who struck a “gentleman’s agreement” last year with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to preserve the filibuster from an effort by Sens. Tom Udall (D-N.M.) and Jeff. Merkley (D-Ore.) to water it down — signaled he is now on board with their effort given the gridlock in the Senate


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76189.html#ixzz1uaYe02Uh

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Reid has finally crossed the Rubicon on changing the filibuster (Original Post) grantcart May 2012 OP
Good! GoCubsGo May 2012 #1
Fat chance of getting 67 votes. Oh well. lamp_shade May 2012 #2
But he only needs 51 votes Marsala May 2012 #3
He needs 60... markpkessinger May 2012 #5
correct grantcart May 2012 #10
He needs only 51 because he is planning on doing it in January 2013 Tx4obama May 2012 #12
Yes -- IF Democrats hold the majority in the Senate n/t markpkessinger May 2012 #14
They will tcaudilllg May 2012 #18
That may come true, will Lugars seat in Indiana go DEM? FogerRox May 2012 #23
Three years too late Pab Sungenis May 2012 #4
Congratulations, Senator Reid, on your mastery of the fucking obvious! markpkessinger May 2012 #6
DO IT, Harry! nt gateley May 2012 #7
Thank fuck for that Prophet 451 May 2012 #8
If you don't stand up for something, yortsed snacilbuper May 2012 #9
Do it Harry !!!! nt steve2470 May 2012 #11
Why the fuck didn't he do this BEFORE???? DevonRex May 2012 #13
The article said it. He made a deal with McConnell. n/t vaberella May 2012 #20
And what did we get out of that deal? rucky May 2012 #22
Exactly. FogerRox May 2012 #24
Nothing. Reid basically fucked Obama over. But that wasn't the question I was answering.n/t vaberella May 2012 #26
Anyone want to bet that if Harry pulls this off StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #15
Sorry Harry I'll believe it when I see it Paulie May 2012 #16
I spoke to him privately about this last year... brooklynite May 2012 #17
Too late, you spineless fool. Odin2005 May 2012 #19
kick grantcart May 2012 #21
If the Dems get the house back, this might actually mean something. FogerRox May 2012 #25

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
1. Good!
Fri May 11, 2012, 04:59 PM
May 2012

I think this will more likely help him keep his majority, rather than losing it. People are fed up with the gridlock, and all these GOP filibusters are a big part of that.

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
3. But he only needs 51 votes
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:04 PM
May 2012

Although it would be a bit shaky, nothing is stopping the majority from voting to change the rules.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
5. He needs 60...
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:33 PM
May 2012

The only time he could have done it with a simple majority is at the opening of the 112th Congress in 2011. His next opportunity to do it for under 60 votes (assuming Democrats are still in the majority) will be in January 2013.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
6. Congratulations, Senator Reid, on your mastery of the fucking obvious!
Fri May 11, 2012, 05:36 PM
May 2012

Too bad you couldn't have been a quicker study and have done this -- as many in your party urged you to -- at the opening of the 112th Congress in January 2011, when you would have needed only a simple majority. Proposing the change in midstream, it is treated like any other Senate vote, and will itself be subject to filibustering. Way to go, Harry -- NOT!

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
8. Thank fuck for that
Fri May 11, 2012, 06:15 PM
May 2012

While I'm not in favour of getting rid of it entirely (especially given the maniacs now running the GOP), this unprecedented level of obstructionism has to end.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
13. Why the fuck didn't he do this BEFORE????
Sat May 12, 2012, 03:40 AM
May 2012

Seriously, I cannot stand that man. If I lived in Nevada I'd vote for him. But JFC, sometimes I could just spit nails thinking about him.

 
15. Anyone want to bet that if Harry pulls this off
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:53 AM
May 2012

even with a 51 vote threshold there will NEVER be enough votes to pass liberal and progressive legislation. Why you many ask, because there are enough people who sport a D after their name in Congress who will have no problem what so ever siding with the R's.

The rules are not the problem, Harry is the problem...always has been,

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
17. I spoke to him privately about this last year...
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:06 AM
May 2012

...and I've told every Senator I have a chance to meet that the time has come to stop cutting deals with the Republicans procedural matters.

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