2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGrimes on McTurtle was BRUTAL!!!!
Grimes had his turtle face mad as hell and all he could do is sit there and take it
#t=88onehandle
(51,122 posts)Wait, I know. They brought their guns.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Powerful woman. Go Go !!
And he said nothing about himself -- amazing. Attack attack. He attacks the president in a non-presidential year. zowie.
She attacks also, but she says where her support will be.
3catwoman3
(23,943 posts)...guts to attack him like that to his face in such a public forum! I'm impressed.
Always Randy
(1,059 posts)for years the candidates have lambasted each other sometimes in jest----but I think this I the first time a woman has stood up to McConnnell ---and she did a superb job----
Midnight Writer
(21,693 posts)I watched on TV today for this but never saw it. McConnell's only point is he is against Obama. Not a single hint of what he will do for Kentucky. Even some of the red-shirted supporters in his crowd looked confused and disheartened during Grimes speech. If she can bring this enthusiasm state-wide she will win.
P.S. I hate to say this, because I know plenty of good thoughtful people who fit his description, but the guy in the red Mitch shirt in the background of the speakers is not a good visual symbol for the McConnell campaign.
enid602
(8,593 posts)When did Mitch start going out with Imelda Marcos?
Midnight Writer
(21,693 posts)She was Secretary of Labor under GW Bush (41) and was totally anti-labor and pro-big business.
polynomial
(750 posts)Mitch loaded the crowd with Dowsers, the old style politics of the male water witching. Yes that red shirt really is what those who study science calls the familiar semiotic symbolism.
Semiology is the study of meaning-making, the theory of signs and symbols the philosophy. My own studies in imaging technology are part of the mathematics that connects vision and thought patterns. Matrix theories, Fourier theory, similar mathematics used in pole theories too.
They are all used with gerrymandering now done in a fancy farm picnic political show. We need more pictures of fancy farms. Always thought these people walk around like Daniel Boone wearing a coon skin cap. LOL. Alison just has to watch a few Boone movies or was it Davey Crockett. LOL
What stands out to me is Mitchs wife, she is a beautiful Asian, likely his and her purse is loaded with that is needed to ride through life. Mitch is the puppet master of the red crowd the old style politics. Bait and switch, he knows how dam dumb his electorate is because they keep him going.
Mitch reminds me of the that old rusted out railroad car that has been sitting in a siding for thirty years as an eye sore, now there so long in Congress as the key player in obstructionism talking about world events when Kentucky needs new good paying technology jobs without being afraid of unions, Tennessee is not. What is needed is simple plain clean water organic farming stop dumping toxic stuff.
There are a lot of good paying improvements in the infrastructure that can be contracted to locals that has been under his control for decades.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)When Bush* was establishing his cabinet, no one wanted Secretary of Labor. Whispers in Washington were that no one wanted the job because everyone knew what would be expected. Mitch tapped his wife for the spot.
A "distinguished fellow" at the Heritage Foundation, all of the changes in our labor laws, encouraging businesses to save money by not paying benefits to its employees, using cutting full-time jobs to part-time jobs as the tool with which to do this, encouraging at-will employment (legal discharge for no reason) were maneuvers she encouraged the business world to make. Today, our economy and our middle and poor class workers still suffer from the fingerprints Elaine Chau left on our labor market.
Sam
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)great writers and never missed a beat with all the rowdiness at that wrestling match. That kind of speechifying is almost a forgotten art in todays politics of the 5 second sound bite on a TV remote.
Imagine her getting on that high horse in the Senate...
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)He looked like he needed to go home and retire.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... is how Democrats should be campaigning. Throw the same style of rhetoric they are so fond of back in their faces.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)Since I am far removed from Kentucky, I have no idea how this was perceived there. As a Democrat, that was highly entertaining and qualifies as red meat. To a Republican, it was as maddening as we would expect it to be. But to an Independent this has the potential to be off putting. Was this the appropriate venue to deliver this speech? I could see this done at a state convention or a fundraiser, but not at an event where McConnell was in attendance.
She did not come across as senatorial in my view. To the unaware it looks as though she publicly beat up an old man who could not defend himself. But then again, McConnell comes off even less senatorial on a daily basis. Since he long ago threw down the gauntlet of demonizing Democrats, what goes around comes around, I guess.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2014, 12:43 PM - Edit history (1)
I thought it rude that the crowd for McConnell booed the whole time, until I realized that this is the norm for this barn burner.
Quite entertaining, actually.
Edited to fix the typo.
kickitup
(355 posts)If you scroll down the page, you can access more videos from Fancy Farm, including one of Rand Paul reading a poem. http://www.kentucky.com/. It's down on the right.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Your independent concerns? Well she is targeting women and young voters.. Most male Independents in Kentucky have already made up their minds....
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)When one does stand up, we attack them for not "looking" the part. Sigh...
kickitup
(355 posts)I live in Kentucky and people look forward to this and tune in just to see the red meat. I have a friend who made an overnight trip just to go.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I am not accusing you of being anti female, it is society that sees a woman who is strong and fights back as a "b" but a man who does it is perceived as a strong leader.
Just asking if the feeling would change with gender.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)without sounding strident or whiny. I love listening to her even though I'm from New York.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)I don't think her being in Ky to stomp for Grimes helped Grimes any
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Kentucky...
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/elizabeth-warren-campaigns-alison-lundergan-grimes-kentucky
This country is desperate for fiery populism, and if the Dems don't fill the need, the RW republicans will and gawd help us if they do.
tweeternik
(255 posts)peoli
(3,111 posts)Can't wait!
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)The Senate she would be a blue dog
calguy
(5,290 posts)beats an old obstructionist republican any old day.
RussBLib
(9,002 posts)I'd never even heard of this event until a guy on MSNBC mentioned it.