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Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:57 AM

Liberal, not Conservative policies turned CA's $42 BILLION dollar deficit into $850 million surplus

And it only took five (5) simple steps and less than four (4) years to do it, requiring zero Republican input. Every State can emulate these steps and Democrats should campaign on them as a reason why Americans should vote straight Democratic Party come November 4th.

The five steps are:

1: Independent Redistricting, that made districts look more like the electorate (unlike Ohio, for example);

2: Reinstating Majority Rule on the Budget, thanks to Prop 25, we no longer needed a 2/3rd majority in order to pass a budget, eliminating the Republicans' obstructionism. A simple majority was all that was needed, and if no budget passes, lawmakers' salaries would be held up until one was;

3: Online Voter Registration, resulted in 800,000 more people registering to vote. Online voter registration helps poorer and incapacitated voters to register;

4: Asked Voters to Raise Taxes, Gov. Brown couldn't get Republicans to pass a tax hike on those making $250K +, so he went straight to the voters for an increase on State income tax. But Progressives curtailed Mr. Austerity's plan, pushing for an increase on those who make $500k + while cutting the increase in sales tax (which everyone pays) that the Governor had planned by a quarter percent ;

5: Massive Turnout Effort, which resulted in 72% turnout during the 2012 presidential elections - the largest turnout in CA history.


Although the State of California still has it problems, California (and one other State, I forget which one) had begun its painful comeback when California voters didn't fall for the Koch-funded Republican "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!" scam in 2010.

Instead of electing more Republicans, we added more Democrats to our legislature. We dismissed corporate-backed Republican Meg Whitman, preferring a much older and former-Gov of this State, Jerry Brown (although he shouldn't be credited with our current surplus - not by a long shot!) and Liberals and Progressives in our State began wielding their new-found power, guiding our State to fiscal solvency in the least painful way for lower incomes and the poor, and doing it all in less than four years after the 2010 midterm elections.

The result?

Liberal policies and actions closed our whopping $42 billion dollar deficit (left to us, courtesy of Aaahnold Schwarzenegger and a recalcitrant Republican Party in our legislature) and gave us our $850 million surplus since January 2014.

Liberal policies are what work. California has proven it. Conservative policies continue to fail the American people and this country.

So it surprises me to read that California's success story isn't more widely known.

Every progressive talking-head should be crowing about this astounding success in California, and use it as an example why the American people should vote Democratic come November 4th.

Every Democrat in every State should point to California's amazing rebound under a Democratic legislature and a Democratic governor as the reason why we should all turn our backs on Republicans and vote Democratic Party come November 4, 2014.

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Reply Liberal, not Conservative policies turned CA's $42 BILLION dollar deficit into $850 million surplus (Original post)
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 OP
Laelth Aug 2014 #1
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #3
Laelth Aug 2014 #6
newthinking Aug 2014 #50
DontTreadOnMe Aug 2014 #2
Bigredhunk Aug 2014 #43
valerief Aug 2014 #4
SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2014 #16
Botany Aug 2014 #5
grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #7
calimary Aug 2014 #23
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #36
JayhawkSD Aug 2014 #8
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #11
calimary Aug 2014 #24
SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2014 #28
former9thward Aug 2014 #45
stopbush Aug 2014 #48
former9thward Aug 2014 #57
JayhawkSD Sep 2014 #65
SunSeeker Aug 2014 #9
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #12
oldandhappy Aug 2014 #10
tea and oranges Aug 2014 #13
Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #14
calimary Aug 2014 #25
Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #31
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #38
Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #52
procon Aug 2014 #15
nxylas Aug 2014 #17
YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #19
SoapBox Aug 2014 #18
calimary Aug 2014 #26
Iliyah Aug 2014 #41
ReRe Aug 2014 #20
OnlinePoker Aug 2014 #21
Cartoonist Aug 2014 #22
calimary Aug 2014 #27
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #33
itsrobert Aug 2014 #29
Cartoonist Aug 2014 #32
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #34
itsrobert Aug 2014 #37
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #39
itsrobert Aug 2014 #40
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #47
benld74 Aug 2014 #30
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #35
Iliyah Aug 2014 #42
erpowers Aug 2014 #44
raven mad Aug 2014 #46
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #49
pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #51
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #61
EEO Aug 2014 #53
samsingh Aug 2014 #54
pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #56
samsingh Aug 2014 #60
BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #62
pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #64
passiveporcupine Aug 2014 #55
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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:11 AM

1. k&r for the truth and for good government. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:17 AM

3. Thank you, Laelth. I hope it will help invigorate people to GOTV in 2014.

We need to be vigilant, and in order to move this country forward, we need to elect more Democrats who will be held accountable by Liberals and Progressives. That's the key to the success we see in California.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:41 AM

6. My pleasure. Bonus kick. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:22 PM

50. I think it is also important to point out that Brown is mostly a very **progressive**

and intellectual liberal. Not nearly the same as say the dlc style of liberal.

If California would have elected a DLC style "liberal" thing would not look nearly so different than how the state was previously.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:13 AM

2. Reinstating Majority Rule

 

Should be done on ALL levels of politics. It is the ONLY solution to obstructionism.

The Democratic Party needs to paint ALL Republicans as the "Obstructionist Party, that get nothing done"

"Why are we paying them to do nothing™"

"They are in the way of progress for America™"

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Response to DontTreadOnMe (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:49 PM

43. This!

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:37 AM

4. And that's why that Draper jerk wants to break it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias

Mustn't have Dem success stories.

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Response to valerief (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:15 PM

16. Just as conservatives would rather tear appart the country

than see it succeed under President Obama.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:38 AM

5. But our "liberal media" will not cover the facts and will continue to push the ..

.... "both sides are at fault" and other lies.

Clinton left a surplus w turned it into a deficit and crashed the economy but this
fall we will hear about "Obama fatigue" and how people will vote republican.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:41 AM

7. We have the solutions. Listen to your left.

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:09 PM

23. Left. Indeed! You could also say - "listen to your heart."

BECAUSE the human heart hangs to THE LEFT. Check any basic anatomy book. We humans are physically, biologically built to be liberals. We're WIRED to be liberals. The human species is designed by nature to be LIBERAL. We deny our own most basic nature when we defy the direction our very physicality leads us.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:08 PM

36. Absolutely! But it can only be done when we have Democratic majorities.

Good thing California has Democratic majorities in both the Assembly and the Senate.

Now, finally, we see what can happen when the Democratic Party is in full control, and Liberals push the Party to do the right thing for everyone. California is a shining example of which political Party's policies work best for the people. Wisconsin and Michigan, under Republican reign of austerity, shows how they fail their people when they have their way.

I was trying to show the stark differences between the two Parties when they're in power.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:50 AM

8. It sounds better than it is.

 

For one thing, the tax increase is tempory but the spending increases which we have implemented based on those tax increases are permanent. There are several such "smoke and mirrors" manipulations behind this so-called miracle.

Yes, it's an improvement, but it has by no means solved the financial problems faced by the state, and that $850 million surplus is pure fiction. It is more than offset by several billion in debt.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:23 AM

11. As I've clearly stated in my OP, California still has its problems.

But we can't expect miracles after fourteen disastrous Republican years, which included the energy manipulation by BushCo's buddy, Kenneth Lay, and his co-conspirators in early 2001. They had sucked out CA's projected $8 billion surplus in a matter of weeks, eventually creating a whopping $38 billion dollar deficit that Governor Gray Davis was blamed for (while it was Schwarzenegger's buddy, Duhbya, and congressional Republicans who did nothing to stop energy companies from gouging California).

The goal of my post is not to anger you. It was to inspire by showing that Democrats, under guidance of Liberals and Progressives, can turn a disaster as huge as California around while Republicans will only exacerbate said disaster. My post is meant to encourage people to vote Democratic come November 4th.

But taking such a skeptical look at California, as you appear wont to do, how would this State fair under a Republican Governor and a Republican legislature guided by the Koch Bros? Do you think we'd be better off?

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:17 PM

24. Do you think we'd be better off under the koch/GOP? This Californian says ABSOLUTELY NO!

I'm proud of my state. We do indeed still have numerous problems. But some of them have actually been mitigated by the policies in place now. The ken lay heist was utterly CRIMINAL. And nobody did anything about it. Under republi-CON "leadership," NOTHING was done. It was allowed. It was schemed up and implemented so only a select lucky privileged few would benefit and the rest of us could go jump in the lake. DEMOCRATIC and LIBERAL leadership tends to reject that approach, because DEMOCRATIC and LIBERAL leadership tends to favor the many over that lucky privileged few (who, to my mind, don't need any government corner-cutting and under-the-table scheming to further line their already-lavishly-padded pockets). If you're rich, you don't need government so much to protect you because your wealth enables you to take care of, and look after, yourself and your own interests VERY nicely already, thank you very much. It's everybody else who needs the protection. If you're already rich, you don't need the help, because you can afford to help yourself. So seems to me that government shouldn't concern itself as much with you and your needs. If you're rich, especially the super-rich, seems to me you're plenty capable of doing that, yourself.

The GOP has that whole concept upside-down, inside-out, and bass-ackwards.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:03 PM

28. Link to proof of fiction please

I know that Brown is utterly pragmatic. He has his head down and tons of experience. He knows that supply and demand economics works and is setting up the state for a growth spurt.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:38 PM

45. CA faces 340 billion in debt.

California faces $340 billion in debts, or more than $8,500 for each of its 38 million residents, the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office said Wednesday in recommending that the state set priorities for paying down its key long-term liabilities.



http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/05/07/analyst-california-faces-340-billion-in-debt/

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Response to former9thward (Reply #45)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:13 PM

48. The point is that without D control we would still have that $340-b in debt AND MORE.

That debt was run up under Ah-nold and R obstruction in the Legislature.

We're on the right path now, because the Rs in CA have no say in how we do things now.

People need to realize that the bad decisions and regressive policies made by Republicans create long-term problems that do not evaporate the moment they are kicked out of office. They spend decades digging a deficit hole, then the press rags on the Ds for not cleaning up the mess in a week. After a few years have passed, they drag out the "how long are you going to blame bush/Ah-nold/whoever for the deficit?" meme, ignoring just how monstrous the R-created problem was and is.

They're trying to do the same thing with President Obama, as if the loss of 8.8 Million jobs and $19-TRILLION in lost household wealth during the bush-created depression was no big deal, a mere blip in the nations' economic life.

Short memories and RW agendas are not our friends.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #48)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 01:59 AM

57. I understand the point.

But D or R control is never the exclusive reason. Illinois is the most indebted state in the country and they are under total D control for years.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 01:31 AM

65. Well, if all you want to do is rant against Republicans, rant on.

 

I have no interest in that silliness. Finding solutions cannot be done if you do not admit that there are problems. Engaging in swooning admiration about how wonderful things have become in California since the Democrats have gained control may feel good, but doing so can result in a small beginning stalling out and leaving us with the large problems, such as $340 billion in unpaid debt and what to do when the temporary tax increase expires, unsolved.

I realize this discussion board is about partisan pilitics; about praising Democrats and bashing Republicans. I have no interest in either side of that nonsense. I am conserned with how best to move our country forward. Doing that requires looking at things as they really are, and requiring my own side to do better.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:10 AM

9. Absolutely. We also expanded access to healthcare, including access to abortion.

That will, if it has not already, boost our economy and prevent untold misery.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:31 AM

12. Yep! And added a wide range of dental services under CA's Medi-Cal (ObamaCare medicaid expansion)

called Denti-Cal since May 2014 for all adults and children who qualify for CA's medi-cal (anyone making less than $12K a year qualifies).

If California can do it, every other State can, too. Where there's a progressive will, there's a solution.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:11 AM

10. Districts are still a little crazy.

Several near me are long and skinny and side by side. Candidates wear themselves out traveling hundreds of miles. Does not look sensible to me. And I am glad for the flip from debit to credit.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:46 AM

13. Does this mean magical thinking about the economy

like invisible hands & trickle down doesn't work? That doing nothing other than cutting taxes for your overlords isn't enough?

Wow! No wonder the media won't touch it!

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:49 AM

14. So THAT'S why Alabama doesn't look like Beverly Hills.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:24 PM

25. Yep. And even with higher taxes and the rich paying more of their share, Beverly Hills STILL looks

like Beverly Hills. I just drove through there the other day. Saw it for myself. The restaurants are still full. There are still people shopping at Saks and Neiman's and Chanel and Jimmy Choo and Buccellati. There's still traffic and bustling activity and a lot of Mercedes Benzes and Bentleys breezing by. They're not hurting because they've been called upon to do more of their civic duty and paying a little more in taxes. If they can afford it, they should chip in. Those same streets under their fancy tires, too, still need repaving from time to time, and the water mains underneath their fancy restaurants and the boutiques they prefer to browse still need refurbishment and repair. And if they can pay a little more, then so be it. I'd rather see their money going toward the greater public good (which INCLUDES AND DIRECTLY AFFECTS THEM, TOO, btw) than toward investments and strategies and funding efforts to further tilt the playing field.

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Response to calimary (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:45 PM

31. They should ALSO not have the extra to bribe politicians.

 

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #38)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:16 PM

52. Guess what color their servants are.

 

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:50 AM

15. We must be doing something right

The state's improving financial position and employment growth earned an upgrade to our credit rating from Moodys, the highest rating in 13 years. Thanks to the voter-approved tax increases and a recovering economy, our revenue outlook is looking better and that will help bring down the debt.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:17 PM

17. Bbbut everyone is fleeing California...

...and migrating to economic powerhouses like New Mexico and North Carolina. The liberal media said so.

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Response to nxylas (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:32 PM

19. LOL

 

That's a good one.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:29 PM

18. Absolutely!

Never...Ever...Under Puke Rule Again.

Don't let anyone forget Gov. "Worst in California History" Ah-nold.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:39 PM

26. Hey, look at it this way - we could have had darrell issa.

He financed most of the persecution of Gray Davis. Because he had designs on becoming governor himself. So he funded much of the recall effort. And then Ahnold slithered in under his nose and grabbed the lights and cameras and Jay Leno's attention on the "Tonight Show" that he wanted to run, and that was that. It was almost worth all the shame and misery just to watch darrell issa sob and burble and cry in front of all those cameras and microphones afterwards, about how his big chance to buy Sacramento for himself had just slipped through his fingers - stolen by the frickin' Terminator. MAN that was a sweet moment. Took a wee bit of the "ouch" out of the OUTRAGE that they perpetrated on Gray Davis (and the rest of us).



I happen to LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing the rich squander big chunks of their money on their selfishly-motivated losing efforts. The delight of contemplating how much money shel adelson pissed away on newt gingrich with no results was really something to savor. And then he lost again when the guy who beat his boy gingrich got his own super-rich entitled pampered pansy-ass handed to him by STILL-President Obama! That was One SWEET Moment! Like they said in the candy bar commercials (I think it was for Almond Joy or Mounds) - "indescribably delicious!"




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Response to calimary (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:35 PM

41. remembered that issa cried

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:45 PM

20. K&R

I don't know what you're doing out there, but I hope it's catching. I particularly like the online voter registration.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:49 PM

21. It's only a surplus based on the accounting used and expenses not funded.

The biggest is the $3 Billion contribution to the state teacher's pension fund. The deficit to that fund is now $80 Billion. They also have deferred paying anything into the state retiree health care fund because of their cash based budgeting (something businesses aren't allowed to do)...another $3 Billion.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:54 PM

22. You're telling me

So it surprises me to read that California's success story isn't more widely known.
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It isn't even known here in California. The media is still conservative here, just like everywhere else. I have never seen an article giving Dems credit for the turnaround.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:41 PM

27. Which is why it's up to US to shout it from the rooftops.

Put it out there EVERYWHERE. Whether it's in some letter to the editor or in random conversation with the fellow shopper next to you in line at the checkout counter.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:47 PM

33. Neither have I. That's what's so astounding to me.

I surmise that had it - in an alternate reality - been Republicans and conservative policies (and I did mention, in an alternate reality, right?) that had helped this massive turnaround in California, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

They'd have Republicans, exclusively, on all the Sunday talk shows - oh wait.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:06 PM

29. The Vehicle Registration fees hike was not Progressive or Regressive, it's Retroactive Tax

People were being tax a lot more for cars they purchase before the hike thinking the vehicle registration taxes should be steady. And than "bam!", they are hit hard. Retroactive taxes will piss a lot of voters off. What if you owned a home and taxes were $2000 a year when you bought it and all of a sudden the next year you are paying $8000 in property taxes?

The best way to tax people is on income taxes and for some items at Point of Sales .

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:01 PM

32. The fee wasn't raised $6,000

When Arnold was still governor, a proposed fee of $10 was added to the vehicle tax to fund our state parks. It would have made every Californians entrance to the park free. It failed due to the repubs. Now, some parks have been closed. Those that remain open have had their entrance fees raised.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:02 PM

34. That mythical HUGE vehicle tax increase was used by Republicans to boot Gray Davis out.

And I recall that it was propagated by our local media almost every night using the "$1,000's of dollars" excuse. But it was a great big lie.

Governor Gray Davis called for the rate to go back to the same level that it had been since 1948. i.e., a 2% tax of vehicle value. But when then-Gov. Gray Davis tried to do that, Schwarzenegger and his marketing team - I mean, his campaign - fanned voter anger and booted Davis from office.

Sales taxes are regressive; they take a higher percentage of household income from the poor than from the rich.

A 1999 California Policy Research Center study found vehicle license fees to be almost as regressive, but at least the revenue garnered is unrestricted and they could use the money to bail the State out of its mess. Can't do that with taxes paid at the gas pump because of voter fiat, and sales taxes paid at the gas pump can only be used for transportation. Our local government also claims a share.

Here's another advantage of car taxes - they are deductible from federal income tax. Try deducting your sales tax on your 1040 form. It ain't gonna happen. Not successfully, I mean.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #34)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:08 PM

37. Actually only a small portion of the annual vehicle registration fee is tax deductible.

on federal income taxes. Only the vehicle license fee is tax deductible on a federal return.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #37)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:08 PM

39. Not true.

According to Taxslayer, an online tax preparation service:

The IRS will allow you to deduct certain state and local taxes you paid during the year on personal property (such as a car or a boat). To be deductible, the tax must be charged to you and must have been paid during the tax year.

Deductible personal property taxes are only those that are based on the value of the personal property. For example, if you pay a yearly fee for the registration of your car, you may pay part of the fee for the tag and part of the fee in ad valorem tax. In fact, part of the fee, depending on your state, may even be based on other factors such as the weight of the vehicle. Only the ad valorem tax that was paid may be deducted because it is the part of the fee that is based on the value of your vehicle.

In addition, to be deductible the tax must be charged to you on a yearly basis. Even if it is actually collected more than once a year or less than once a year, it must be charged to you annually.
http://www.taxslayer.com/support/69/What-Personal-Property-Taxes-qualifies-for-a-deduction?language=1

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #39)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:17 PM

40. Yes, did you read what you just posted?

Only part of the tax.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:12 PM

47. Yes, I did read it. Did you?

For example, if you pay a yearly fee for the registration of your car, you may pay part of the fee for the tag and part of the fee in ad valorem tax. In fact, part of the fee, depending on your state, may even be based on other factors such as the weight of the vehicle. Only the ad valorem tax that was paid may be deducted because it is the part of the fee that is based on the value of your vehicle.


The proposed vehicle tax increase would be an ad valorem tax.

An ad valorem tax (Latin for "according to value" is a tax based on the value of real estate or personal property. It is typically imposed at the time of a transaction, as in the case of a sales tax or value-added tax (VAT). However, an ad valorem tax may also be imposed on an annual basis, as in the case of a real or personal property tax,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_valorem_tax

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:07 PM

30. Congrats To CA!!!

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Response to benld74 (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:03 PM

35. Thanks, benld74. We're not there yet, but we're on the correct path! eom

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:40 PM

42. California's progressing while GOPer run states are regressing

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:26 PM

44. Conservative, Not Liberal Policies

It was conservative policies, not liberal policies that turned a hundred billion dollar plus surplus and a projected $5 trillion ten year surplus into a $1.3 trillion deficit.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:16 PM

46. I have a girlfriend in SoCal who sent me an email saying just this.

I'd like to copy and send this back to her with attribution of course. She is not a DU member (yet), but is strongly Blue!

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Response to raven mad (Reply #46)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:14 PM

49. Absolutely, raven mad.

I hope you can get her to join!

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:44 PM

51. Favorite line (among *many*) in the article:


And the fact that the Golden State often sets trends for the rest of the nation must terrify Republicans.

As a native born SoCalian I too wonder why this isn't more heavily discussed. Thanks for posting this, BlueCaliDem!

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #51)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:11 PM

61. You're very welcome, pablo_marmol.

It frustrates me that I'm not hearing any of this in our media - even on so-called liberal shows.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:32 PM

53. I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half. - Jay Gould

Republican class warfare policy in a nutshell. Trick the ignorant into becoming pawns of the rich.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:52 PM

54. Liberal policies are good for creating wealth

that is more broadly shared.

conservative asshole policies take the wealth created by liberal policies and shit them to the few at the top.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #54)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 01:22 AM

56. ".....and shit them to the few at the top."


Oh damn......that sounds quite painful. But who cares, right?

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #56)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 09:34 AM

60. its the truth

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Response to samsingh (Reply #60)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:34 PM

62. Yes, it is. Every liberal policy that's benefited this country throughout history

is suddenly absorbed by the Right, turned around and, instead of giving back to the hard working Americans and immigrants in this country, is given to the lazy do-nothing money-hoarders of the 1%.

A good example of beneficial progressive policy would be the prosperity and jobs created under President Clinton.

Because of his Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 (or OBRA-93 - a bill that not a single Republican voted for in the end, as well as a few "Democrats", President Clinton presided over many years of peace and prosperity and the creation of 22 million private sector jobs that brought the unemployment number to 4.2% just before G.W. Bush was installed in the White House.

And despite Republican yowling that "President Clinton signed the largest tax increase in history" (which is factually untrue) the tax increase was only for the highest incomes (as was the case under Jerry Brown in California). But the moment G.W. Bush was appointed to the White House, that hard-fought for Federal surplus and the jobs that we had fought so hard for, vanished, when Bush's tax cuts, that mostly favored the wealthiest and corporations, was signed into law. The trillions in Federal debt that we have today, and what the Republicans are wailing, is their doing and the result of their policies. But true to their shameless and lying nature, they blame Democrats and Liberals - and our media is slow to question them. That's why they're getting away with it.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #60)

Mon Sep 1, 2014, 01:27 AM

64. Thought you laid down a typo ----


'Shit' for 'shift'.

Guess you missed my corny joke.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:34 AM

55. I think vote by mail should be available in all states

in 2004 Oregon's Presidential election got an 86% turnout. It is so much easier to vote by mail. No more scheduling conflicts or having to leave work early or find someone to watch the kids. More time to go over your ballot choices and choose them carefully and recheck them before marking your ballot.

I am spoiled, I admit. I've always hated going to the precincts to vote. And I've never had to stand in long lines anywhere. With my physical health now, I would not vote if I had to go in person and there were hour-long waits. Vote by mail will improve voter turn-out. Of course, republicans will fight it.

On-line voter registration is great too. I've not seen that here in Oregon, but I registered before everyone had personal computers.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 03:16 AM

58. "... we should all turn our backs on Republicans ..."

 

Oh my ... I'm not sure I could turn my back on a thug ... who would be watching MY back?

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Response to DrBulldog (Reply #58)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:35 PM

63. "I'm not sure I could turn my back on a thug ... who would be watching MY back? "

As always, Liberals.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 31, 2014, 03:32 AM

59. Interesting. To talk to many economic developers, you'd think that

Businesses are leaving California in droves and the state's about to go belly up.

So the old saying, as California goes, so goes the nation...

Let's hope that's TRUE!!!

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