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CBHagman

(16,981 posts)
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:35 PM Oct 2014

"Perhaps the life of the mother." Perhaps this is Joni Ernst's (R-IA) Todd Akin moment.



[url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/07fd615e722b4fbc9f92b518173537e1/last-iowa-senate-debate-set-braley-and-ernst[/url]

Republican candidate Joni Ernst defended her opposition to abortion rights during Thursday's final debate between her and Iowa Democrat Bruce Braley in their neck-and-neck race for a U.S. Senate seat, but she said for the first time that she might support a legal exception to save the life of the mother.

The issue has come to define the final weeks of their campaigns to succeed retiring Democrat Sen. Tom Harkin. Polls show more women support Braley, a congressman from northeast Iowa, and more men back Ernst, a state senator from southwest Iowa.

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During a free-flowing, conversational debate, Ernst repeatedly stated her belief that life begins at conception, which is consistent with her support for a U.S. Constitutional amendment bestowing the rights of persons on fetuses. Braley and others critical of such an amendment say it would outlaw abortions, most forms of contraception and in vitro fertilization.

"There would be certain exceptions," Ernst said, when pressed by the moderator about whether she could see any circumstances under which she would support abortion. "Going back to perhaps the life of the mother, I think that would be important."
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"Perhaps the life of the mother." Perhaps this is Joni Ernst's (R-IA) Todd Akin moment. (Original Post) CBHagman Oct 2014 OP
Just failed the RWNJ purity test IggleDoer Oct 2014 #1
She "thinks" that the life of the mother would be important? She "thinks"??? What about shraby Oct 2014 #2
Well said, shraby. brer cat Oct 2014 #3
Perhaps if the "mother" is already a mother and has children at home to take care and CTyankee Oct 2014 #7
+2 davidpdx Oct 2014 #8
Might? What she is saying in this statement is that we must all become Roman Catholics. That is one jwirr Oct 2014 #4
Perhaps can be defined as... Zambero Oct 2014 #5
Perhaps the life of the mother? Control-Z Oct 2014 #6

shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. She "thinks" that the life of the mother would be important? She "thinks"??? What about
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:43 PM
Oct 2014

The life of the mother IS important?
The mother is already a person. A living, breathing, person. Not a possible person. Not a someday person if everything goes right.
She is a person now AND has every right to decide her life and it's direction without help unless she asks for it.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
7. Perhaps if the "mother" is already a mother and has children at home to take care and
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 05:11 PM
Oct 2014

is very poor. And not some woman who is selfish. Oh no.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. +2
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 02:27 AM
Oct 2014

Yep, you can't have one without the other. Of course that makes no sense to the pig castrator.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. Might? What she is saying in this statement is that we must all become Roman Catholics. That is one
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 03:08 PM
Oct 2014

of the laws they used to espouse. I do not know if they still do it today but that idea has been out for most mainstream protestants even anti-abortion protestants since the Reformation. The rw has once again played into this idea.

Come on Iowa we do not want a theocracy where some church can determine the government rules for all of us. Stand up for freedom of religion and vote against ms ernst.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
5. Perhaps can be defined as...
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 03:16 PM
Oct 2014

Maybe yes, maybe no. Since Ernst has been on record as being steadfast for no exception whatsoever, her newfound "perhaps" is a bit shaky at best. More likely, she is posing as a fence straddler in an effort to placate fundies while at the same time reassuring mainstream voters that she is not as extreme as they might suspect. It's one or the other Joni, you can't be both.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
6. Perhaps the life of the mother?
Sat Oct 18, 2014, 03:30 PM
Oct 2014

Hmm? I guess she'll decide which mothers deserve to live on a case by case basis.

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