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angrychair

(8,680 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:40 AM Nov 2014

250 seats

52 seats.

This wasn't just losing. This was EPIC DEFEAT.

250 House seats. Historic in scope. It would take, AT LEAST, 2 EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL, election cycles to overcome these numbers.

54 Senate seats. And growing. There are 22 rethug seats up in 2016...almost all of them in solid red states. There is little to no chance of serious gains in the Senate in 2016.

In short, Democrats could be out in the cold for a decade or more.

A win here or there MEANS NOTHING. they have a super majority in the House. a couple of DINOs will get them 60 votes in the Senate.

Democratic apathy has sowed the seeds of ruin.

FUCK the fucking republicans. All hail our corporate masters!

We all stood, stoney, as we took in the scope of the destruction we sowed.

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250 seats (Original Post) angrychair Nov 2014 OP
Democrats do not realize the damage they did when too many of us sat out in 2010. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #1
When the middle class is no more, they will realize it still_one Nov 2014 #3
I fear that they will continue to blame Obama/Democrats. I fear that the media is so entrenched that Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #5
They will, and the media is so entrenched. However, the Democrats are going to have to speak truth still_one Nov 2014 #8
I hope you're right. Democratic Underground was once a powerhouse for Democratic grassroots Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #10
^^^THIS^^^^ VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #11
Then if that is the case then fuck the people, because they will get what they deserve, and if that still_one Nov 2014 #2
Again, as a federal government employee, when the Republicans shut down government... Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #6
I agree. People who supply the government from the outside with materials and services will also be still_one Nov 2014 #9
Don't get sanctimonious, just patriots who torture here and for-profit health insurance Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #4
and VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #12
11-Dimensional chess! blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #14
The Republic is dead. Murdered by morons high on Koch. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #7
average every day white folks killed the republic underthematrix Nov 2014 #13
where are you getting 250 house seats? mgcgulfcoast Nov 2014 #15
NBC News Projects 250 GOP House Seats Mistwell Nov 2014 #16
The two parties are the same, so its all good. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #17
So how many House seats did they pick up? Reter Nov 2014 #18
results are still playing out angrychair Nov 2014 #19
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
1. Democrats do not realize the damage they did when too many of us sat out in 2010.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:46 AM
Nov 2014

The damage is nearly unrepairable because the Republicans can hurt us a lot over the next few years, not to mention SCOTUS appointments.

But hey, that's what Americans want, so be it.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
5. I fear that they will continue to blame Obama/Democrats. I fear that the media is so entrenched that
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:59 AM
Nov 2014

they'll push this "it's Obama's fault" meme all the way through to the end.

I can hear it now: "Obama refuses to compromise after Americans gave Republicans a congressional mandate".

The worse of it: DUers who go along with it and blame Obama, too! That hurts like hell.

UGH! I feel sick!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
8. They will, and the media is so entrenched. However, the Democrats are going to have to speak truth
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:04 AM
Nov 2014

power in order to change things. If they remain "timid" because they fear losing their career politician jobs, then it is up to we the people to elect new people to replace them

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
10. I hope you're right. Democratic Underground was once a powerhouse for Democratic grassroots
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:11 AM
Nov 2014

activism. Now, I'm seeing DUers demonizing the BOG forum (I am not a member and never post there, to be fair).

People were angry with Bill Clinton. At the time, many believed Al Gore to be weak and timid. John Kerry wasn't popular.

But I swear to God, despite all those shortcomings, I've never seen a Democratic board turn against a Democratic president. I've never seen that up until now.

They even have names for anyone who dares try to defend the president on anything--even if that person, like me, admits that she doesn't agree with everything the president has done.

And again, we are sitting here wondering why we lost.

The Democratic base didn't turn out in high enough numbers. But why should they if even the Democratic Party establishment runs away from their president. And, the corporate media is gleefully cheering on the Republicans.

I believe that we lost Maryland tonight due to genuine apathy. People don't care if the corporate media and Democrats themselves don't stand for anything. Why should the voters?

still_one

(92,061 posts)
2. Then if that is the case then fuck the people, because they will get what they deserve, and if that
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:52 AM
Nov 2014

means a financial meltdown, or losing their life savings, destruction of Social Security, and healthcare, then so be it. Some folks obviously have had it too good on the backs of those who fought for labor rights, social security, medicare, women's rights, etc., and they will just have to fight those battles again when it gets bad enough for them. If your scenario holds it will mean a lot of pain for a lot of people.

However, I don't think it will. Congress has a 19% approval rating. To me that doesn't mean the people will be chomping at the bit to elect their republican saviors. The republicans will be vulnerable, red state or not

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
6. Again, as a federal government employee, when the Republicans shut down government...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:01 AM
Nov 2014

...and they WILL shut it down, everyone should feel pain, including the old white folk who vote Republican but receive their social security and medicare benefits. No more of that! It can't just be federal employees feeling wrath. Americans need to feel it, too!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
9. I agree. People who supply the government from the outside with materials and services will also be
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:06 AM
Nov 2014

hurt, but most of all, Congress should be the first to feel the pain if they do that

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
4. Don't get sanctimonious, just patriots who torture here and for-profit health insurance
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:56 AM
Nov 2014

Just look ahead, change we can believe in. LOL.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
13. average every day white folks killed the republic
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:18 AM
Nov 2014

check out this amazing article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republicans-increasing-reliance-on-white-voters-may-not-spell-electoral-doom-just-yet/2014/08/03/04f0c85c-1b21-11e4-ab7b-696c295ddfd1_story.html As an African American, this definitely makes more sense than my original theory of voter fraud even though i know voter suppression and fraud probably played some role. But I think this makes a lot of sense.

angrychair

(8,680 posts)
19. results are still playing out
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:20 AM
Nov 2014

They will likely hit 250...no that has not happened before that I am aware of...

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