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hue

(4,949 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:02 PM Nov 2014

Domino’s Founder Created All Catholic, No Birth Control Town In Florida

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/12/dominos-founder-created-all-catholic-no-birth-control-town-in-florida/


Domino’s Founder Created All Catholic, No Birth Control Town In Florida
Author: Wendy Gittleson November 12, 2014 6:12 pm

Freedom of religion took a major hit when the Supreme Court ruled that corporations can have religions and that their religions are more important than yours and mine. While most of us (at least those reading) agree that Burwell v. Hobby Lobby was pretty clearcut in that it was a violation of women’s autonomy over their own bodies, at least there was a little bit of gray area because Hobby Lobby isn’t actually the government.

One millionaire, though, is testing the First Amendment to its outer limit by creating an entire town that is based on his Catholic rules. The worst part? The town is built in part with input from Justice Antonin Scalia. I wonder how he’d rule if this made it to the Supreme Court?

Ave Maria, Florida houses only about 2,500 residents. It’s the pet project of Domino’s Pizza founder Tom Monaghan, who is strictly Catholic.

The town brags to be “southwest Florida’s newest hometown . . . A town where children can ride their bikes to school, walk to the candy store and scoot their way to the ice cream shop. Where neighbors are friends and life is good. Where everyone enjoys life as it is meant to be lived.” Source: Truth-Out.org

Ave Maria was founded in 2005. Florida’s governor at the time, Jeb Bush, called the town, “a new kind of town where like-minded people live in harmony between faith and freedom.”

By “freedom,” Monaghan means the freedom to follow his church-imposed laws, including no birth control or X-rated TV channels. You can be sure there are no abortion doctors in the town either.

Monaghan fancies himself a philanthropist, modeling himself after Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffet. He wants to give away half his nearly half billion dollar fortune before he dies, but unlike Simpson’s co-creator, Sam Simon, who is using his entire fortune to feed humans and feed and shelter animals, Monaghan wants to give us the Catholic version of Sharia Law.
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Domino’s Founder Created All Catholic, No Birth Control Town In Florida (Original Post) hue Nov 2014 OP
We fought two wars with the British shenmue Nov 2014 #1
Thank goodness we have Berkely yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #2
Berkeley is interesting. But it isn't an "opposite case." True Blue Door Dec 2014 #25
Closest we have I think yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #26
Portland? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #27
Dominos Pizza tastes like crap (my opinion). blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #3
Who died and made Tom Monahan Pope? meow2u3 Nov 2014 #4
Waiting on the current Pope to repudiate Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #33
If you live there and get your BC prescription filled out of town Freddie Nov 2014 #5
We have something similar in NY State - LiberalElite Nov 2014 #6
They've got a college too mcar Nov 2014 #7
a Catholic version of Liberty U pstokely Nov 2014 #8
So it's "Pleasantville" come to life MuttLikeMe Nov 2014 #9
So Jesus will have a place to stay when it’s time to return... busterbrown Nov 2014 #10
Jesus was dying to leave Israel. Sweeney Dec 2014 #30
And the minority population of this town is???? packman Nov 2014 #11
segregation by Neighborhood Association Rule, they dumped the "satellite campus in Nicaragua" Sunlei Nov 2014 #12
I don't think this is so different from the Villages - hedgehog Nov 2014 #13
Jeesh, just looked into that: Population 51,000. Age restriction protected by federal law LeftInTX Nov 2014 #14
Under nineteen? Sweeney Dec 2014 #31
The Villeges are not Ave Maria yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #35
Generalissimo Monaghan Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #15
Looking over the web site, there is no mention of the restrictions - hedgehog Nov 2014 #16
What a nice way of saying Sweeney Dec 2014 #32
this is the second one, he had a 'town' up north but it wore out its welcome Sunlei Dec 2014 #17
Very interesting SophieKoko Dec 2014 #18
Maybe we need some no Domino's Pizza towns. yellowcanine Dec 2014 #19
It's built around a third rat college/law school, and the town is a money pit for Monaghan's wealth. Ex Lurker Dec 2014 #20
I was there in September of this year----ghost town Always Randy Dec 2014 #21
It doesn't sound like he is living his faith as much as making his own. Sweeney Dec 2014 #29
Ave Maria links that really fly in the face of someone so Catholic and pro life Always Randy Dec 2014 #22
this is tantamount to sacrilege Always Randy Dec 2014 #23
Need a good lawyer----not from Ave Maria Always Randy Dec 2014 #24
Kind of hit by the double whammy Sweeney Dec 2014 #28
As long as the town is promoted that way, and all the residents are there napi21 Dec 2014 #34

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
1. We fought two wars with the British
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 05:13 PM
Nov 2014

to keep this country from being a religious kingdom. It's one thing to go to the church or what else you want. But to shun everyone else is nuts.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
4. Who died and made Tom Monahan Pope?
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:23 PM
Nov 2014

Pope Francis should shut down this town, or at least declare it schismatic.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
33. Waiting on the current Pope to repudiate
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:14 AM
Dec 2014

this man's teaching and actions as a Catholic. But, I won't hold my breath.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
5. If you live there and get your BC prescription filled out of town
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:01 PM
Nov 2014

Can they snoop in your medicine cabinet?
Do they investigate couples that only have 1 or 2 kids?

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
10. So Jesus will have a place to stay when it’s time to return...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:03 AM
Nov 2014

Who needs Israel when he has Ave Maria.?

Sweeney

(505 posts)
30. Jesus was dying to leave Israel.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:11 AM
Dec 2014

If he went back there he would be on a cross by noon. He should go some place where people like him, and people only like him who never met him.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. And the minority population of this town is????
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:26 AM
Nov 2014

Inquiring minds want to know-shit, I already know.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. segregation by Neighborhood Association Rule, they dumped the "satellite campus in Nicaragua"
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:36 AM
Nov 2014

The current enrollment of Ave Maria University is 1,291 students, 882 undergraduates and 94 graduate students[5] on the main campus as well as 315 postgrades law students at the Ave Maria School of Law.[6][7] The university had a satellite campus in Nicaragua called the Ave Maria University-Latin American Campus, but sold the campus to Keiser University on July 1, 2013. wiki info

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
13. I don't think this is so different from the Villages -
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:50 AM
Nov 2014

"Persons under the age of 19 years are not permitted to reside within The Villages unless an exemption is granted. Three subdivisions have been designated as "family units"[13] and are not subject to this restriction. Otherwise, persons under age 19 (such as grandchildren) are permitted to visit for no more than 30 days within a calendar year.[14]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida

People with money living in gated communities with people like themselves.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
16. Looking over the web site, there is no mention of the restrictions -
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:16 PM
Nov 2014

it looks like the kind of place were anyone and everyone is welcome - as long as you have money! These places give me the creeps.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

VATICAN CITY — In his latest bid to ease the suffering of the poor — and upend the expectations of the papacy — Pope Francis plans to build showers for the homeless under the sweeping white colonnade of St. Peter’s Square.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-to-build-showers-for-homeless-in-st-peters-square/2014/11/13/a0121030-6b6b-11e4-bafd-6598192a448d_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop

SophieKoko

(17 posts)
18. Very interesting
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:59 PM
Dec 2014

He's been so busy doing this that he no longer cared much about fixing Domino's Pizza's terrible cardboard taste.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
20. It's built around a third rat college/law school, and the town is a money pit for Monaghan's wealth.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:07 PM
Dec 2014

If he wants to spend all his money on this boondoggle, it won't take long.

Always Randy

(1,059 posts)
21. I was there in September of this year----ghost town
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:15 PM
Dec 2014

this place is a real case study-----most of the retail stores are vacant, the condo association members have no vote, the law school graduates have the biggest failure rate on the Florida Bar Exam, the Cathedral that Monaghan built lacks the endorsement of the arch diocese, of course there are the scandals with a religious order hitting on the female students . but probably the biggest egg on its face is their attempt to get Jackson Labs from Bangor Maine to build a research facility in Ave Maria that studied embryonic stem cell treatment -----that is a BIG no no in the RC church------fortunately the county Planning commission turned it down-----Monaghan was trying to get the entire project funded by Florida Economic Development -------the Lab is now in Connecticut

Sweeney

(505 posts)
29. It doesn't sound like he is living his faith as much as making his own.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:03 AM
Dec 2014

When he gives it all away and follows Jesus I will believe he is a Christian, and a better man than I.

Always Randy

(1,059 posts)
23. this is tantamount to sacrilege
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 10:19 PM
Dec 2014

when this place goes down---the name Ave Maria will be sullied with it-----just who is the egomaniac think he is to dare use religious names for his own greed

Sweeney

(505 posts)
28. Kind of hit by the double whammy
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:00 AM
Dec 2014

How will anyone defeat religious privilege and property privilege at the same time? This isn't a serious question; it's an intelligence test.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
34. As long as the town is promoted that way, and all the residents are there
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:20 AM
Dec 2014

because that's what THEY WANT, then knock yourself out Monaghan. It's sort of like a totally Mormon community.

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