Hillary vs. Jeb

[tecelote]

They both come with baggage.

Hillary has Bill.

Jeb has George.

Not everything was perfect with Bill's term but America was way better before George.

[NYC_SKP]

1. Both were reelected, but Hillary has Bill's baggage and her own.

I don't care for their bags filled with drama and want them to go away.

[tecelote]

3. I know. So many of my friends say Hillary! I keep saying... No!

Bernie.

An American for Americans.

[imthevicar]

22. Stick to you opinion!

Bernie!

[orpupilofnature57]

4. +1000

[orpupilofnature57]

2. They are one in the same in so many ways . n/t

[tecelote]

5. Hillary will repay her donors.

So will Bernie.

[orpupilofnature57]

10. The world of difference that should make it a no-brainer, One can

thank their contributors proudly while the other has to deny being associated with the hand that feeds them .

[libdem4life]

13. Yes he will, because he already has a record of doing just that. Otherwise, it would be just

another blowhard politician with a nifty way of speaking out of multiple sides of the mouth. The wet finger in the air type.

[tecelote]

14. Bernie and Elizabeth

Finally.

[still_one]

6. Bill Clinton Criticism goes to his deregulation, but his involvement with working to bring peace

were a very important part of his administration. Northerners Ireland, the Middle East etc.

Bush was screwed up on all fronts, no redeeming characteristics

Just look at the Supreme Court appointments between bush verses Clinton. That speaks volumes

[orpupilofnature57]

11. Shrub was by far the worst President in American history, no doubt .

[Rosa Luxemburg]

19. Yes he was and he shouldn't have been president

[onehandle]

7. Yes. A two-term progressive Democratic President is 'baggage.'

And now we've had another one.

'baggage'

'Democratic' Underground is far from 'baggage.' It's a mere blip, that no one I know in real life has ever heard of.

Good thing, for Democrats, and The United States of America.

[napi21]

8. Big difference though. The majority of all Americans really dislike "W".

Bill, on the other hand, is really loved by LOTS of Americans AND international people as well.

It's a big anchor around Jebbers neck to be saddled with the Shrub.

Sure Bill was not perfect, and he did a lot of things none of US liked, but many people look at Hillary and say, I know Bill will be right beside her, advising her on everything, and that's a good thing, whereas having "W" advising o ANYTHING is not good.

[tecelote]

9. Yeah.

My life was better under Bill.

Bill left George with a huge surplus and George left Obama with one of the biggest disasters in our history.

[orpupilofnature57]

12. Jeb is a piece of poop on his own merits, Shrub is the icing on the fake .

[tecelote]

15. Together...

No way we'll benefit.

I think even the 1% consider them a risk.

Imagine a Bush presidency followed by a Bush presidency.

Imagine the unemployment rate.

But, for Repubs, what's the alternative?

Boo!

[redstateblues]

18. The eight years of Bill Clinton

Were the most prosperous and war free of my lifetime. I'd put my bet on the dynamic duo.

[Thinkingabout]

21. Think the same, Hillary had the experience to try to get back on good terms with many countries

After Bush ruining relationships, I doubt she will be anxious to have thing going down again.

[AtomicKitten]

16. Both should be considered disqualified.

* Hillary voted for the invasion of Iraq.
* JEB says he would have invaded Iraq.

[tecelote]

17. Yeah.

How about no more war?

[napi21]

25. That was 15 years ago!

I disagreed with going into Iraq too, but I had a feeling at the time that Hillary voted to invade BECAUSE she was supporting the President. If her husband had still been Prez, she knew how important it would be to support him.

Remember how short the conflict was when George H invaded? I suspect there were a lot of people who looked back at that and voted aye based somewhat on that.

I'm sure not going to eliminate Hillary because of something I disagreed with 15 friggin years ago.

[AtomicKitten]

26. Good thing there weren't any long lasting repercussions of that vote.

Wait. What?

[napi21]

27. If Hillary's vote would have been the deciding vote, I'd agree with you, but it wasn't.

Lots of other Dems voted for the invasion too. I would vote against war no matter what but that's [probably not too rational either. At that time, I don't think there were a lot of people who believed Shrub & Cheney would have made up their own intelligence, because I don't believe we've ever had such disgusting leaders before. I won't hold their vote against them after all this time.

[AtomicKitten]

28. We disagree on the consequences of that vote.

Sorry but the everybody else is doing it defense does nor hold water with me. I learned that from raising an argumentative precocious boy. (I'm not mocking you, my son was just a handful.). That vote locked Democrats into complicity with that ill-begotten invasion and all that followed. I knew it was a politically calculated vote then as it was for other Democrats, and I cannot forgive it. It was so horribly wrong, IMO nobody should let it slide. On edit: Bernie voted no on the IWR and the Patriot Act. That is invaluable in me eyes. I trust Bernie to move the country away from war. I trusted the president to do so and he let me down. It really does matter to me, a lot.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. Bill

I don't think it will much matter about Bill. At least he left us with a surplus!
as for the Bushes it will be dumb (W) and very slightly less dumber Jeb. People should be reminded of Bush years

[demwing]

23. Getting ahead of yourself a bit :)

Let's see who wins Bernie vs. Hillary first,

[marble falls]

24. Draft Bill Clinton.

[bigwillq]

29. Neither

I don't want another Bush or Clinton.

[Lil Missy]

30. Bill was very popular, it's Republicans that don't like him.

I don't care what repubes think.