Bernie? In the end I’m going w/ Hillary..for now..

[busterbrown]

Think she is the only one to prevent a disastrous take over of our govt. by extremist idiots.....
But bless you for driving her to the left... You are an incredible man!!http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/23/bernie-sanders-kickoff-guide/27811735/

[djean111]

1. I cannot imagine that anyone truly thinks that anything but her campaign blather has been driven to

the left.

[busterbrown]

3. We’ll see..

But in a general election.Bernie will be framed as a Socialist/Marxist old man..and we do live in a country who’s citizens listen very closely to Fox Shit!!

[RichVRichV]

9. No we don't.

We live in a country where a small subset listens to Fox. And that group is going to vote against Hillary every bit as much as they'll vote against Bernie. If you're counting on their vote for either candidate you will be sorely dissapointed.

And the Republicans call all Democrats socialists. The only way to seperate Bernie as a real socialist is to discuss his positions. Once they do that they have lost. Because, once you break them down, most people agree with his positions regardless of party.

[NYC_SKP]

2. She'll lose it. I'm going with Bernie for the win.

She can't be driven anywhere but to the bank.

[busterbrown]

4. I’ll take Hillary at the Bank...

over Jeb at the W.H..

[libdem4life]

5. Good Point, but...

[busterbrown]

6. I know...

but....

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. For the Win!

[stonecutter357]

11. k&r

[randys1]

27. A great point that should NOT have to be made HERE of all places

this is "duh" territory

But thanks for saying it because some here have other ideas, dont they

[Bluenorthwest]

24. I'm a Democrat and I assume whomever we nominate can and will win. Our Primary is the General.

My own personal choice for nominee has as yet never been the nominee and yet many of them win. Imagine that.

[NorthCarolina]

8. "Driving her to the left"? Forget that, I'm sticking with the REAL DEAL...

Bernie. I have no faith in a miraculous transformation of Hillary into something that we all know she just isn't. You are right about one thing though, Bernie IS an incredible man.....and he has my full support and my vote.

[Paka]

12. You said it so well.

Rhetoric doesn't cut it for me. Actions are what counts. Bernies actions are consistent and spot on!

[rock]

10. I support both

But I am waiting til the primary debate to decide. I confess I am leaning toward Hillary but we shall see!

[DCBob]

13. Many might think this is crazy but I think Hillary will move even more left once she is elected.

She has been posturing her entire career just to get to this point and once she actually makes it to the Oval Office I do believe her "better angels" will emerge.

[busterbrown]

14. Absolutely!!!

If we’re wrong. I’ll be keeping my big fat mouth shut for a long time..!!

[jwirr]

28. If she gets in and we are wrong then is when we need to keep our mouths open - pushing for what

we want. With the House still in the hands of the Rs we are going to have to do that regardless which one of our candidates win.

[MBS]

18. I hope this might happen, too

I agree that she would genuinely take the job seriously, and would care about her legacy.
And the interests of her legacy may help her heed those better angels.

Right now, I'm so aware of her baggage that any evidence of her "better angels", on the campaign trail, and in the White House, will be for me a relief, and a welcome surprise. But if we can get her to the White House, I agree that she will be better than many folks here predict, and better than I've feared in my more pessimistic/skeptical moods. I still worry about her on environmental issues (Keystone XL, for instance), etc, and, as far as the campaign itself, I worry about the effectiveness of her speaking/debating/political skills.

But one thing for sure: we absolutely CANNOT let the Republicans win, for the sake of SCOTUS, the future of our democracy. Every single one of the Repug candidates is a nightmare, and , really, a danger not just to our country, but to the planet.

So I'm all in for the Democratic nominee in the general election.

[NorthCarolina]

19. Like the old saying

Wish in one hand, s#!t in the other and see which one fills up faster. Hillary is NOT going to become something she isn't just because you wish it to be so. Her record speaks for her. I'm sticking with Sanders for that very reason; his record speaks for HIM, and I like what I hear. Nothing in this country will change unless people move outside the box and make it happen. I'm going with the real deal, I'm sticking with Sanders.

[DCBob]

20. Its not wishing.. it's a prediction.

I think Hillary knows there is still an attitude in this country that a woman might not have the right mentality or skills to be President and that she feels she needs to prove to people she has the cajones to be a strong leader especially in the area of foreign policy and economics. Because of this I believe she may overplay it sometimes beyond what she actually feels inside. Once in the WH she will have the freedom to say and do things she wouldn't have before. I believe even her vote for Iraq war authorization may have been affected by this. If she voted against it that might be seen as a weakness.. being unable to "pull-the-trigger" when a threat arises.

I could be wrong about all this but it's more than just wishful thinking.

[NorthCarolina]

21. I prefer a candidate who has strong convictions guided by principal and NOT

the presumed prevailing political wind. You can go with hope and predictions if that's what you prefer, but for me, I'm sticking with the known quantity...no wishing, hoping, or predicting necessary.

[DCBob]

22. That's great but a politician still has to play politics if they want to win.

And if you don't win you cant do much with all those wonderful convictions and principals.

[NorthCarolina]

23. Maybe,

maybe not....but I'll take my chances with the superior choice.

[cantbeserious]

26. Did Not Hapen With Obama - Why Would It Happen With HRC

Always remember that she started political life as a Republican.

It is were she is most comfortable as her actions and patronage of the 1% clearly demonstrate.

[DCBob]

29. I never expected him to move left.

He always spoke of trying to unite the country and I assumed that meant being a centrist.

Hillary is different. I think she has an inner liberal that is more liberal than she appears.

[cantbeserious]

30. We Will Have To Agree To Disagree

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[hrmjustin]

15. Support Hillary but I think Sanders is a good candidate who will bring serious

discussions and class to the race.

[busterbrown]

16. W/O a doubt...

I only can dream of a Sander’s Presidency..

[BlueMTexpat]

17. Same here.

If he does announce his candidacy, Martin O'Malley should also help to keep issues that matter part of the dialogue.

Whatever happens, the US is fortunate to have three such intelligent individuals willing to put themselves out there. GOPers have nothing like them.

Nothing.

[cantbeserious]

25. I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

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[Rosa Luxemburg]

31. My thoughts in 2008

I said in the end I'm going with Hillary Obama in the primary - who would have thought!

[MADem]

32. The slide show at the bottom of your link is a lot of fun!

Some great photographs, there!

I remember him well when he was a mayor, but I'd forgotten how youthful he looked!

[Sheepshank]

33. .....and the predictable swarm hits

As if you cannot or should not voice your own opinion. It's as if they don't have enough anti HRC threads already dotting DU lol