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Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:49 PM

 

What are the chances Hillary's private servers were hacked?

I think it's time to have this discussion.

The largest retailers in the world, with all their money, are NOT immune to hacking. We know this. Millions upon millions of $'s to throw at the problem, and they get hacked. Enough money to employ the brightest minds in the industry to protect their systems, and they get hacked. Millions upon millions of American Citizens have had their personal information exposed to "bad guys" (with guns and without) who will wait until the opportunity presents itself in order to do THE FUCKING WORST THINGS IMAGINABLE with the information.

I want someone to tell me Hillary Clinton's server(s) were NOT hacked. I want them to tell me how they know. I want them to PROVE it. I want them to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Let's have a discussion about what's possible if they WERE hacked. Do we really want a President whose supposedly "private" emails could possibly be in the possession of foreign governments that our OWN governments treat as hostile entities?

Fuck Benghazi. Fuck Whitewater and EVERYTHING in between. Those are bullshit, made-up NON scandals. Fuck the "Grand Right-Wing Conspiracy".

It's time to talk about whether or not electing Hillary Clinton might be detrimental to national security.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-18/hillary-clinton-s-e-mail-was-vulnerable-to-spoofing-

http://gawker.com/how-unsafe-was-hillary-clintons-secret-staff-email-syst-1689393042

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Reply What are the chances Hillary's private servers were hacked? (Original post)
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 OP
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #1
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #4
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #6
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #7
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #9
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #11
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #13
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #15
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #17
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #18
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #19
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #43
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #46
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #47
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #48
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #5
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #8
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #10
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #12
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #14
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #16
MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #2
uppityperson Jul 2015 #3
LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #20
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #21
DURHAM D Jul 2015 #22
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #23
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #24
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #26
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #27
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #28
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #30
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #33
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #34
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #35
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #36
MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #29
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #31
MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #37
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #38
MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #39
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #40
MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #41
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #45
tularetom Jul 2015 #49
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #51
840high Jul 2015 #54
Sheepshank Jul 2015 #60
Agschmid Jul 2015 #25
tularetom Jul 2015 #32
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #44
tularetom Jul 2015 #50
pa28 Jul 2015 #42
Capn Sunshine Jul 2015 #52
Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #53
silenttigersong Jul 2015 #55
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #56
JoePhilly Jul 2015 #57
Purveyor Jul 2015 #58
silenttigersong Jul 2015 #59


Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:51 PM

4. and you know this how?

 

They may or may not have. My guess is the were probably not hacked but I do not know for sure.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:53 PM

6. Well i just said that becausevthe op wanted someone to say they weren't hacked.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:54 PM

7. Does the possibility that they MIGHT have been concern you at all?

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:55 PM

9. No. Goverment computers get hacked everyday.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:57 PM

11. Do you think Barack Obama's emails are in the possession of foreign governments?

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:58 PM

13. At this rate i think it is likely some.

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:59 PM

17. Who protects his emails?

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:00 PM

18. The same people who protect Hillary's emails?

 

Oops... no. Hers were off-site and therefore off-system.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:02 PM

19. You do know that the secret service set up and protected the system she used don't you?

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:18 AM

43. I also know they couldn't stop a fool with a knife

 

Who decided to climb the fence and run INTO THE WHITE HOUSE with it.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #46)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:26 AM

47. I have no confidence physical security of her server is equal to electronic security.

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #47)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:28 AM

48. Oh well! Has there been any evidence it was hacked?

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:52 PM

5. And you know this how. OPM exposed 25,000,000 people to bad guys.

 

Did Hillary's private servers have the same grand protection?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:54 PM

8. Have you read the news lately?

 

Have you noticed that goverment computers are not exactly secure either?

I said it because you said you wanted to hear someone say it so i said it.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:56 PM

10. Does the notion Hillary's emails, ALL OF THEM, might be in the possession of foreign governments?

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:57 PM

12. What makes you think they wouldn't be if she used government servers?

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:50 PM

2. 100%

 

Rounding to the nearest integer.

Can you fathom foreign governments not taking a crack at a server used by the SoS? And since we've heard zip about security measures in her basement, it's hard to believe that China, Russia, Israel, and many others were reading every email.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:51 PM

3. Huh. Words fail me. In many ways.

ETA. To start with : How do you prove a negative?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:17 PM

21. Because two words: ERIC. HOTEHAM.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:17 PM

22. Well, Chelsea Manning copied 250K diplomatic cables

and gave them to Wikileaks. Sounds like the servers of an ex-President run by the Secret Service might be a better way to go than anything the State Department is using.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:18 PM

23. The Secret Service runs computer servers?

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:21 PM

26. Can you find me that information? I didn't know they did SOS's cybersecurity.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:22 PM

27. She used the system they set up for her husband. She made that clear in her UN press conference.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:24 PM

28. Wait, are you telling me that SS were going in daily and performing all the tasks that a

email server administrator does? System checks and all that? Somehow I doubt that.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:28 PM

30. The system had been in place since 2001 with upgrades.

 

Former presidents are entitled to see classified information and they wish to make suretheir computers are secure.

Yes it is very logical that the ss would do this.

Especially when they knew the SOS decided to use the system.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #30)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:32 PM

33. I have not heard this anywhere. I only heard the argument that the server was somehow secure

because SS guarded the house. Which, of course, only means it's physically secure. I have not read anywhere that SS actually administers ex-Presidents' home computer networks.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:34 PM

34. Watch her un press conference.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #34)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:38 PM

35. I don't remember, in any of the analysis or coverage of that presser, of learning that the Secret

Service is in the business of overseeing their cybersecurity. If that's true, then GWB's family wouldn't have been email-hacked.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:43 PM

36. Well the SS is not perfect. They can be uacked.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:27 PM

29. "It was on property guarded by the Secret Service"

 

Is there anothr quote that I missed?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #29)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:30 PM

31. She made this very clear in her UN speach.

 

She used the system they had in place for her husband.

Didn't you watch her press conference?

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #31)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:53 PM

37. No, didn't watch it.

 

But the only relevant quotes by Hillary that I can find is that the server was physically guarded by the Secret Service.

Maybe my Google-fu sucks tonight?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #37)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:55 PM

38. You should watch it.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #38)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:56 PM

39. Got a link?

 

I want to make sure I don't watch the wrong one.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #39)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:01 AM

40. I believe she said it was the system the secret service set up.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #40)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:11 AM

41. Transcript indicates that the Secret Service only physically guarded it

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #41)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:21 AM

45. She said there were safeguards and it was protected by the SS.

 

CLINTON: Well, the system we used was set up for President Clinton’s office. And it had numerous safeguards. It was on property guarded by the Secret Service. And there were no security breaches.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #45)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:32 AM

49. Protected by the Secret Service, eh?

You mean these guys?

http://time.com/3449641/secret-service-scandal/

Earlier this year, three agents were sent home from a trip to the Netherlands after getting drunk the night before the President was set to arrive.

In 2013, two agents were removed from Presidential security detail after sending sexually inappropriate emails to a colleague, which was uncovered when one of the agents was discovered trying to forcefully enter a woman’s hotel room after forgetting a bullet inside.

In 2012, eight agents were fired after it emerged that they had allegedly solicited prostitutes while on an on-duty trip to Colombia.

In 2001, an agent admitted to having stolen nearly $3,000 in cash that the Secret Service had taken as evidence in the years prior.


Forgive me if that doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #49)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:35 AM

51. Well there is no evidence it was hacked.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #51)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:02 AM

54. No evidence it wasn't.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #54)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:09 PM

60. Logics....can't prove a negative

 

But you can prove that it was hacked. So go for it and let us know what you found out.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:20 PM

25. Everyone who applied for a Federal Govt. job for the last 15 years was also just hacked...

Where is your outrage on that one?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/09/politics/office-of-personnel-management-data-breach-20-million/index.html

Doesn't matter where/who has the server everything is hackable.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:31 PM

32. There is no chance in the world that they WEREN'T hacked

The question is, what information was on them that could possibly threaten national security.

Like you, I'd like that question answered, but I don't think it ever will be.

And I'd like to know if she has learned anything from the experience, but I doubt that's gonna happen either.

So if she tells us it won't happen again I guess we'll just have to have faith in her.

Is that good enough for you?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #44)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:33 AM

50. Didn't think so. Me either.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:16 AM

42. We've been spying on the executive branch foreign counterparts for years. That's known.

Wikileaks made that perfectly clear and I think it's reasonable to assume they do the same to us.

Did Hillary have some kind of advanced security protocol in her basement that was better than the State Department's to prevent this from happening? Doubt it.

I really hope she knew her correspondence was vulnerable and kept a lid on anything damaging. If we find out later during the general election campaign that she was hacked and sensitive information got out it's going to look like negligence and she'll be attacked for incompetence.



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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 12:54 AM

52. Believe the worst. It's what you do.

Certainly she just used an out of the box server she bought second hand from hackersRus. Despite Secret Service protection and administration by their agents, she insisted on ignoring their pleas and used "password " for her password. And never installed any security software.

Because, all along, she wanted you and the others at DU to have a reason.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:00 AM

53. What are the chances Hillary eats puppies?

I think it is time we had this conversation.

Of course she does. Why wouldn't she? She is evil, as we all know.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:50 AM

55. Honestly

This just makes Hillary Clinton appear to be special,regarding her private emails ect as opposed to us little people and our privacy.Thank you Edward Snowden.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:54 AM

56. It's amazing how shook Madame Secretary has some people.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:08 AM

57. Got any evidence they were??

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 03:20 PM

59. Oh

Probobly just emails from her "Foriegn friends"and donations for the Clinton Foundation.

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