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Sign this pettition calling for more Debates. Feel the bern (Original Post) Vincardog Aug 2015 OP
knr n/t slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #1
Contrary to what Gov. Cuomo say's about debates, they Do inform the voter, the How, why, and Who orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #2
Done! nt. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #3
Thanks Vincardog Aug 2015 #4
Kick! Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #5
Thanks Vincardog Aug 2015 #6
Meh. Agschmid Aug 2015 #7
A first name only, internet petition? That'll convince them... brooklynite Aug 2015 #8
If you don't want to, don't do it. Bernie can ask me to do anything, He is working on Vincardog Aug 2015 #9
If you really cared about this, why didn't you write to the DNC directly? brooklynite Aug 2015 #10
I call DWS every day. What do you do? Have anything other than snark? Vincardog Aug 2015 #11
Actually, I had a private call with DWS last week... brooklynite Aug 2015 #13
Calling writing and demanding more opportunities to educate voters is slacktivism but Vincardog Aug 2015 #20
No, "signing" an Internet poll is alcktivism brooklynite Aug 2015 #21
So I have your utmost respect for calling the DNC and your scorn for signing a petition. Vincardog Aug 2015 #22
I'd like to hear... RobertEarl Aug 2015 #12
I'd be delighted to... brooklynite Aug 2015 #14
24 million viewers in the recent debate RobertEarl Aug 2015 #15
How many of those 24 million were there for the Donald Trump train wreck? brooklynite Aug 2015 #16
You doubt? RobertEarl Aug 2015 #17
So then, you DON'T need an endless stream of debates month after month? brooklynite Aug 2015 #18
You are confused RobertEarl Aug 2015 #19
There it is - you want Government to run like a BUSINESS. TOO bad it isn't nor is it meant to Vincardog Aug 2015 #23
No, I want CAMPAIGNS to run like a business brooklynite Aug 2015 #24
Do You believe that introducing new voters to Democratic Populist Policies is a waste? Or do Vincardog Aug 2015 #25
Not at all.. brooklynite Aug 2015 #26
I believe they should be exposed to them as soon as possible. The GOP should NOT have 2 Months Vincardog Aug 2015 #27
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
2. Contrary to what Gov. Cuomo say's about debates, they Do inform the voter, the How, why, and Who
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:33 PM
Aug 2015

is going to run my life, because your going to appoint them ?

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
8. A first name only, internet petition? That'll convince them...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:43 PM
Aug 2015

...or more precisely, it'll give the sanders campaign your email address for future mailings and fund solicitations. What they call in the biz "a butterfly net"

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
9. If you don't want to, don't do it. Bernie can ask me to do anything, He is working on
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:22 PM
Aug 2015

issues that matter to me.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
10. If you really cared about this, why didn't you write to the DNC directly?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:04 PM
Aug 2015

Mailing address:
Democratic National Committee
430 South Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Main phone number: 202-863-8000

Of course, then you'd have to come up with a reason in your own words...

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
13. Actually, I had a private call with DWS last week...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:30 AM
Aug 2015

...but since I'm not worried about the debate schedule, I don't feel the need to "do something". As for "snark", I have a great deal of respect for people committed enough to their causes (whatever or whoever they are) to take serious action. Slacktivism however, is a real waste of time.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
20. Calling writing and demanding more opportunities to educate voters is slacktivism but
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)

calling out anyone who does the real work is "taking serious action".

That is machine failure.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
21. No, "signing" an Internet poll is alcktivism
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:17 PM
Aug 2015

anyone who takes the time to contact DNC directly with their own comments has my utmost respect.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. I'd like to hear...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:18 PM
Aug 2015

Brooklynite writes:

"Of course, then you'd have to come up with a reason in your own words..."'

Like to hear the reason, in your own words, why you think there should be only six debates and a 2 month wait before the first.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
14. I'd be delighted to...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:36 AM
Aug 2015

...I believe that campaigns should be as efficient as possible. Spending time preparing for, traveling to, and then traveling from, debates that - in aggregate -appeal largely to political activists who are already committed to one of the candidates is not the best use of a candidate's time this far out. Additionally, endless debates that revisit the same material add nothing to our political discourse. Four debates closer in to the first primaries, and two later in the Primary cycle seems will maximize attention from less engaged voters who will be the bulk of the undecided, and will be perfectly adequate to discern the differences between the five (as opposed to 17) candidates we have to choose from.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. 24 million viewers in the recent debate
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

That's a pretty efficient way to reach 24 million people in one day. So that kills that argument about efficiency.

Then you say something about endless debates revisiting the same material. But that is what the campaigns are all about, traveling all over, making speeches to small crowds revisiting the same material. Talk about inefficient! Yet that is all you offer.

I had hoped you would come clean and just admit that the last thing the DNC wants is to help Bernie in any way. It's all too evident, and it is un-democratic. The party operatives should be ashamed of themselves for supporting such. I wish they'd all do the honest thing and resign. They are hurting the party by opposing what the People want, and that is more debates.

So, again your argument loses. And frankly, is un-democratic.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
16. How many of those 24 million were there for the Donald Trump train wreck?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:38 PM
Aug 2015

if Trump hadn't been on stage I doubt they would have gotten half as many viewers.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
17. You doubt?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

Well we have seen that you doubt more democracy via more debates is a good thing, so your doubts are pretty much null and void.

When the DNC finally allows Bernie to take the stage in a national debate, there will be close to 35 million tune in to watch Hillary feel the Bern.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
19. You are confused
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:10 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie has called for many, many debates. He even wants to debate the republicans, now.

I stand with Bernie and against the DNC operatives who are shaking in fear of there being real democratic debates that will end as soon as the election is over.

So, enough of your silly 'endless debates' pablum.

Why do you fear debates? Do you think Hillary will go down in flames? If so, I think your are dead on and is why the DNC operatives are pissing themselves in fear of real democracy.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
23. There it is - you want Government to run like a BUSINESS. TOO bad it isn't nor is it meant to
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:56 PM
Aug 2015

The US government was formed to do what businesses had no desire to do:
HELP PEOPLE.
That is what Bernie is working to return us to,
and what CONSERVATIVES FEAR he will be able to do.
:

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
24. No, I want CAMPAIGNS to run like a business
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:23 PM
Aug 2015

i don't want them to waste time or money, because there's a fine amount of both.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
25. Do You believe that introducing new voters to Democratic Populist Policies is a waste? Or do
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

you FEAR it will hurt HRC's chances by making her take real positions
on matters that affect PEOPLE?

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
27. I believe they should be exposed to them as soon as possible. The GOP should NOT have 2 Months
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015

To spread their LIES without any Democratic response.

Please tell me what Democratic purpose is served by your position?

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