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ghostsinthemachine

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Wed Aug 26, 2015, 06:10 PM Aug 2015

4 Reasons Why a Biden Run Would Help Sanders


The politerati are getting a slight break from Trumpalooza these days, thanks to the Biden Bump. The veep has been actively discussing a possible presidential run with Democratic donors and strategists as he moves toward a final decision, and political handicappers have upped the odds that Biden, still coping with the recent death of his 46-year-old son Beau, will enter the fray. This has led to a torrent of speculation about what Biden will do and what a last-minute leap might mean for the 2016 race. Could it hurt the once-inevitable-but-now-email-burdened Hillary Clinton by providing Nervous-Nellie Democrats with an alternative? Could it help Clinton by offering her a more establishment-oriented sparring partner to vanquish—which would yield a positive narrative for her campaign?

The other day, Sen. Bernie Sanders, the independent seeking the Democratic nomination who has drawn thousands to rallies and boomed in recent polls, was asked how a Biden bid would affect the contest. He characteristically pooh-poohed the question. "Politics is not a soap opera," he said. "What impact it will have on the race I honestly don’t know. I mean, I wish I could tell you but I don’t. Will it help or hurt me? Will it help or hurt Hillary Clinton? I just don’t know."

Yet there are several reasons why a Biden run would be good for Sanders.

* Slicing up the pie. The most obvious benefit is a matter of basic math: If Biden is in the hunt, the establishment Democratic vote will be split. That means an outsider will need a lower percentage of the vote to win. If the race is essentially Clinton versus Sanders (assuming for now that Martin O'Malley, Jim Webb, and Lincoln Chaffee don't escape from low-single-digit territory), the winner of a primary contest will have to bag close to 50 percent of the vote. Put in a competitive third candidate—and there's no telling how strong a candidate Biden will be—and the number drops. Within the Sanders camp, his strategists assume that the progressive populist wing of the Democratic electorate that already supports or could potentially support Sanders is about 35 percent. That number is undoubtedly closer to the percentage needed for a win in a contest with Biden than in one without him.



MORE HERE: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/4-reasons-why-biden-entering-race-would-help-sanders
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4 Reasons Why a Biden Run Would Help Sanders (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 OP
LOOK AT OUR CANDIDATES randys1 Aug 2015 #1
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #2
Okay, this sounds reasonable, but it sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #3
Hillary or Joe will drop out before the primary. They are playing for the same team. This is an GoneFishin Aug 2015 #4

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. LOOK AT OUR CANDIDATES
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 06:22 PM
Aug 2015

Now look at the other side






We are superior, in every way, to every con on the planet and it is so fucking obvious

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
3. Okay, this sounds reasonable, but it
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 06:53 PM
Aug 2015

brings up the question: What does Biden really
gain by running again? Does he know for
some inexplicable reason that HRC would lose to him?

This just opens more questions than just Biden's
wish to become POTUS, imo.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
4. Hillary or Joe will drop out before the primary. They are playing for the same team. This is an
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:35 PM
Aug 2015

establishment strategy against non-insiders. They are counting on Hillary and Joe each attracting slightly different demographics, which they will consolidate when one of them drops out before the Democratic primary.

There is no way the Democratic Party machine will pit two insiders against each other in the primary.

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