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Bernie's got this! It's a lock! (Original Post) DanTex Sep 2015 OP
Ever More Bernie Bashing cantbeserious Sep 2015 #1
Looks more like he's making fun of some of Bernie's more ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #12
As Was Said - Ever More Bernie Bashing cantbeserious Sep 2015 #16
Because Bernie is his supporters and his supporters are him ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #17
Because - The Democratic Establishment Is Working To Drag Bernie Down Any Way Possible cantbeserious Sep 2015 #20
Just like the left and the right are working To Drag HRC Down Any Way Possible ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #22
Hillary doesn't need any outside help to drag down her candidacy Demeter Sep 2015 #32
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #49
yep 840high Sep 2015 #54
Have you ever posted an O'Malley OP? whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #47
Yes. I have ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #48
Of course whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #50
HRC is not HRC's enemy, either. ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #60
Reading comprehension issue? whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #62
Please place me on ignore. You, clearly, are posting to bait me into a fight. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #64
Just trying to figure out whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #66
Place me on ignore and it won't matter. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #68
Nah, I've never put anyone on ignore whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #69
Then ... Please suppress the compulsion to respond to my posts. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #71
Strange request whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #73
Apparently, so is common courtesy ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #78
Who is the enemy? Hillary? If that's what you're saying then...WOW. Metric System Sep 2015 #70
But, apparently, I have reading comprehension problems ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #72
I can't believe Hillary is being described as the "enemy" on a Democratic forum. I didn't understand Metric System Sep 2015 #75
For all intents and purposes whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #77
She's his primary opponent. I don't think I've ever heard any candidate call their primary opponent Metric System Sep 2015 #79
Sure, whatever you say whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #81
"Nastiness" would be one descriptor ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #83
Go for it whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #85
I'm pretty sure that you would like that; but, I won't ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #86
Ooh... I guess we've reached whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #87
No we reached with your obsessivefollowing me around across multiple threads. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #89
Give me a break whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #91
The wisest thing you have written ... EVER! ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #92
Buh bye whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #93
Bye. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #94
Lol! whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #76
Keep it up! and you will some be hailed a "pillar of du". n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #80
Uh... ok whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #82
In a political contest whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #74
Projection AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #58
Projection? Okay ... Right! ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #61
Indeed AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #63
I am NOT a HRC supporter ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #67
And the sky isn't blue AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #88
Oh how special of you ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #90
With all respect to DanTex... Agschmid Sep 2015 #25
Who Knows Any More Whether Any DU Screen Name Is A Legitimate Person - To Many Infiltrators cantbeserious Sep 2015 #38
*Too Agschmid Sep 2015 #40
*Too cantbeserious Sep 2015 #41
that seems to be one of the narratives on the rotation ibegurpard Sep 2015 #24
You can't have it both ways ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #27
Yes we know ibegurpard Sep 2015 #33
Perhaps, the DU:Bernie response ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #36
did you actually read Jane's FB page? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #53
Yes. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #59
LOL JoePhilly Sep 2015 #21
So what you are saying is that it IS appropriate to link Sanders supporters actions to him? kjones Sep 2015 #65
Never Made Such A Statenent cantbeserious Sep 2015 #95
I guess it's enthusiasm envy. nt LWolf Sep 2015 #23
This has nothing to do with Bernie... Adrahil Sep 2015 #34
Sounds Like A Blatant Insult Of DUers cantbeserious Sep 2015 #39
That's a big chip on your shoulder.... Adrahil Sep 2015 #43
I'm Not The One That Made The Insult - Hence No Chips On These Shoulders cantbeserious Sep 2015 #51
My son is fantastic at statistics. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #46
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Sep 2015 #52
"She's dropping. He's rising. And you don't need to be a statistician to see that" AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #96
Haha quickesst Sep 2015 #44
LOL.... BooScout Sep 2015 #2
At least his numbers are going up. tecelote Sep 2015 #3
Pretty good! lunamagica Sep 2015 #4
Care to say anything in praise of your own preferred candidate? Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #5
I will. She is going to be an awesome president. Laser102 Sep 2015 #8
Like Mr. Sanders? Smart, intelligent, capable, experienced, compassionate? Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #10
Allegiance to corporate task masters. tecelote Sep 2015 #11
I know ... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #13
This went so well... Agschmid Sep 2015 #18
Ovaries? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #19
You said the 'O' word. Plus the Other People. Now you did it... n/t freshwest Sep 2015 #98
Both have a lot of positive qualities. And they agree on most issues. DanTex Sep 2015 #26
all of that plus wendylaroux Sep 2015 #57
Sorry, Elizabeth Warren isn't running. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #30
+100 Duppers Sep 2015 #31
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #6
To be fair the trend is positive for Sanders... Agschmid Sep 2015 #9
Yes. That is true ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #14
But first... Coffee. Agschmid Sep 2015 #15
you're mean. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #7
What is this... the 1950's? demmiblue Sep 2015 #28
Hillary and her supporters get a pass, for obvious reasons. jalan48 Sep 2015 #37
DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2015 #29
My hope is you awaken from the mommy fog Android3.14 Sep 2015 #35
That is very funny Gothmog Sep 2015 #42
Don't knock extrapolating. onehandle Sep 2015 #45
I look forward to seeing you support your candidate someday, DanTex Scootaloo Sep 2015 #55
K&R!! Amimnoch Sep 2015 #56
As long as the empirical data continues, extrapolation is unnecessary Sancho Sep 2015 #84
48 husbands? The matriarchy is back! But we will be kindly feminine overlords. freshwest Sep 2015 #97
I agree with the title PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #99
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
22. Just like the left and the right are working To Drag HRC Down Any Way Possible ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:53 AM
Sep 2015

and this is from a non-HRC supporter.

Go M.O'M!

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
47. Have you ever posted an O'Malley OP?
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:12 AM
Sep 2015

It's interesting, your support seems to mostly consist of aid and comfort to the enemy.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
48. Yes. I have ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:30 AM
Sep 2015
It's interesting, your support seems to mostly consist of aid and comfort to the enemy.


I have no enemies in the Democratic Party ... not even Liebermann or Landreau, back in the day.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
50. Of course
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:50 AM
Sep 2015

we're talking about O'Malley's political enemy. Is it because he doesn't have a little 'D' behind his name that Sanders seems to be your enemy?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
60. HRC is not HRC's enemy, either. ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:42 PM
Sep 2015
Is it because he doesn't have a little 'D' behind his name that Sanders seems to be your enemy?


Bernie isn't my enemy, either. However, my lack of support for his candidacy, is unrelated to his not being a member of the Democratic Party. It's because I am more drawn to a candidate that has well thought out plans for addressing the issues that are important to me AND a record of working across the aisle to get things done.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
78. Apparently, so is common courtesy ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:36 PM
Sep 2015

Look you disagree with everything I write and think ... even when I haven't written it or thought it; but rather, you "reading between the lines" of what I "implied." You use your "spidey sense" to float communicate the voice in your head that I am a HRC supporter, when I have told you, repeatedly, I am not. You adjudge my posts pointless.

So why not save us both some time and knock it the fuck off.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
72. But, apparently, I have reading comprehension problems ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:23 PM
Sep 2015

which my two undergrad degrees, my Master's Degree, my Professional Degree, my several national certifications, and my career success (and pay check) would seem to refute.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
75. I can't believe Hillary is being described as the "enemy" on a Democratic forum. I didn't understand
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:32 PM
Sep 2015

the "reading comprehension" jab at you either, other than sheer nastiness.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
77. For all intents and purposes
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:35 PM
Sep 2015

in a political contest Hillary is O'Malley's enemy. Check your silly faux outrage at the door.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
79. She's his primary opponent. I don't think I've ever heard any candidate call their primary opponent
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

their "enemy." That is loaded language and it's use against a fellow party member would be questionable.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
83. "Nastiness" would be one descriptor ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:41 PM
Sep 2015

but with that poster following me across several threads to share, a couple others might apply ... any one of which would get me a hide.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
91. Give me a break
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:16 PM
Sep 2015

If you really believe you're a victim and want to avoid the horror, why keep this exchange alive. Just walk away.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
74. In a political contest
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:27 PM
Sep 2015

your opponent is, in a manner of speaking, your enemy. What about that notion is Wow worthy?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
67. I am NOT a HRC supporter ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:10 PM
Sep 2015

and you saying so, repeatedly, after being corrected, repeatedly, is offensive and asinine ... or asinine and offensive.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
36. Perhaps, the DU:Bernie response ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sep 2015

"Don't pay attention to Bernie supporters. We are not the candidate" except when making fun at your expense is, in fact, attacking the candidate.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
65. So what you are saying is that it IS appropriate to link Sanders supporters actions to him?
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:08 PM
Sep 2015

Oh this is great, because all I've heard up to this point is that supporters =/= candidate.
Glad to know that was all BS thought. I'll have to remember.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
34. This has nothing to do with Bernie...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:37 AM
Sep 2015

Just some of his more "statistics challenged" supporters here at DU.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
43. That's a big chip on your shoulder....
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:00 AM
Sep 2015

If you're bad at statistics and think this applies to you, then I'd say that you need to understand statistics better, rather than feeling insulted.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
46. My son is fantastic at statistics.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:03 AM
Sep 2015

Took AP Stats last semester and passed the AP exam to opt out of it in college.

He has a government class this semester, so he's been challenged to look at these things.

He can see the growth in Sanders' support in the state polls and extrapolate the trajectories in the national polls. What he sees is Sanders' support continuing to grow as his message gets out.

Ironically, in his school, everyone either supports Trump or Sanders. These kids can't vote, yet (he's a junior), but they have to be getting their preferences from something: family, friends and/or social media.

Telling Sanders supporters we're "statistically challenged" is nothing more than another meme meant to counteract Clinton's drop in the polls.

She's dropping. He's rising. And you don't need to be a statistician to see that.

What we don't know is what will happen when he gets more national exposure after the first debate. For all the news shows he's done in the past couple of months, the fact is that many people don't pay attention to all that until the fall. We're just about there and we're nearing the first debate.

After that, you'll get better data.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
3. At least his numbers are going up.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:18 AM
Sep 2015

Some candidates seem to suffer from more exposure. Not Bernie. He's got the groundswell to make it happen.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
5. Care to say anything in praise of your own preferred candidate?
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:24 AM
Sep 2015

Or are we to vote for her because of a mockery?

Laser102

(816 posts)
8. I will. She is going to be an awesome president.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:37 AM
Sep 2015

Smart, intelligent, capable, experienced, compassionate.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
10. Like Mr. Sanders? Smart, intelligent, capable, experienced, compassionate?
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:38 AM
Sep 2015

What does she have that Sanders hasn't?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. Ovaries? ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:50 AM
Sep 2015

Oh yeah ... and overwhelming majorities among African-Americans, Women, Hispanics, and Democrats, (and when I last checked, among those earning less than $50,000/yr), i.e., the Democratic base.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
26. Both have a lot of positive qualities. And they agree on most issues.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:02 AM
Sep 2015

The main difference is that Hillary can win the GE, and Bernie can't.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. LOL ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:29 AM
Sep 2015

Real exchange:

"Well ... {ETA:The Trend Analysis says Bernie will overtake Hillary in ...}"

"What trend analysis?"

{Posts a series of data points showing increasing numbers}

"That's not trend analysis ... plotting two (or several) data points and drawing a straight line isn't trend analysis."

"Yes it is."

"Okay ... Pick up Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Crickets


The level of numeric illiteracy is impressive on DU.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. Yes. That is true ...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:42 AM
Sep 2015

but that trend is not to/cannot be projected on that straight line into the future to result in reaching a particular point at any time in the future.

(I will add that part of the exchange to the original post ... I got lazy and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet.)

demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
28. What is this... the 1950's?
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:10 AM
Sep 2015

If this was posted by a republican man, the most vocal feminists on this board would be all over your ass. Rightly so.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
35. My hope is you awaken from the mommy fog
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 08:38 AM
Sep 2015

When you do, the country will be better for it. It's time to grow up as a species.

"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known." 1 Corinthians 13

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
45. Don't knock extrapolating.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 10:52 AM
Sep 2015

If the primary is extended through 2018, Hillary could lose as many as four or five states.

Lines Segments Don't Lie!

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
84. As long as the empirical data continues, extrapolation is unnecessary
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=566294

Two Iowa polls today, Hillary ahead about 2 to 1.

Actually, this post by DanTex is funny, but closer to the truth than most would admit. If you take the "emotions" and cheering out of it.

This ones for you, DanTex. Enjoy!!

http://www.jstor.org/stable/1164602?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

One of my favorite articles on sampling!!

Eelworms, Bullet Holes, and Geraldine Ferraro: Some Problems with Statistical Adjustment and Some Solutions
Howard Wainer
Journal of Educational Statistics
Vol. 14, No. 2 (Summer, 1989), pp. 121-140

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
97. 48 husbands? The matriarchy is back! But we will be kindly feminine overlords.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:21 AM
Sep 2015


We won't make you wear a dress, either.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
99. I agree with the title
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:54 AM
Sep 2015

The picture, not so much. There is a larger dataset than two points. We'll revisit this thread after HRC drops from the race.

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