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Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Said to Be Close to Signing Fund-Raising Deal With Democratic Party
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/02/bernie-sanders-said-to-be-close-to-signing-fund-raising-deal-with-democratic-party/
2:28 PM ET By Maggie Haberman 9-2-15
Senator Bernie Sanders is on the verge of signing a joint fund-raising agreement with the Democratic National Committee, his aides said, a week after Hillary Rodham Clinton entered such an arrangement with the party.
It remains to be seen how a joint fund-raising agreement with Mr. Sanders, the Vermont independent who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, would be carried out. Mr. Sanders has never aggressively courted the types of party donors who hold major national events. But his aides indicated that he would like to help the committee build its war chest in preparation for the 2016 general election.
Bernie is committed to trying to build the resources of the party for the election since we believe Bernie will be the nominee of the Democratic Party, said the senators spokesman, Michael Briggs, adding that Mr. Sanders has helped his Senate colleagues raise funds in the past by appearing at events for the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.
The campaign will review the proposed joint fund-raising agreement with the D.N.C., Mr. Briggs said, and if there are no problems with it, then Jeff Weaver, the campaign manager, will sign it and Bernie will participate in events as the schedule allows.
FULL story at link.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Because DWS is totally against Bernie Sanders and to Sanders why would he want to help a party raise money when it will be funneled to Hillary No...not for one second do I think this will happen
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Hint: This question has an obvious answer.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Reporting this. Why would Bernie,especially after his DNC speech which really pissed off DWS, jump on board to bring the DNC out of the red when those funds will be used against him because of his progressive message. The article also read that Bernie was considering this I think was I was being realistic and I believe that will be confirmed by Bernie Sanders campaign in a few days. The NYT ....well like I said dont trust them and check out the author of this article
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)What is off is your perception of the situation and surrounding issues, not the article.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Sanders has a long record of working with the party to benefit him in elections by removing primary challengers and financially benefiting from the party. Some have this false belief of who Sanders is.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)raise money for their campaigns in the past but can you document how he has been working with the party to benefit himself in the past?
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Doing a brief search op from his own supporters can be found promoting his deals. There is huge amounts of info out there. I wasn't aware some didn't know about this part of his history.
"Sanders entered the race for the U.S. Senate on April 21, 2005, after Senator Jim Jeffords announced that he would not seek a fourth term. Chuck Schumer, Chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, endorsed Sanders, a critical move as it meant that no Democrat running against Sanders could expect to receive financial help from the party. Sanders was also endorsed by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Democratic National Committee Chairman and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean. Dean said in May 2005 that he considered Sanders an ally who "votes with the Democrats 98% of the time."[77] Then-Senator Barack Obama also campaigned for Sanders in Vermont in March 2006.[78] Sanders entered into an agreement with the Democratic Party, much as he had as a congressman, to be listed in their primary but to decline the nomination should he win, which he did.[79][80]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
If you decide to look, there were very intimate deals made much earlier than this. The democratic party has supported him for a long time. I know that doesn't fit in to the narrative some are attempting to build, but facts are facts. In the past, the party has actually scuttled primary challenges to him. It is extremely well known.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)caucused with Democrats for years. And in fact he is more Democrat than many in the party. Very much an FDR Democrat. For that reason I actually approve of the endorsements.
Also seniority is an important factor in being a legislator and for that reason a person with seniority is more important than the new comer.
I see nothing wrong with this at all.
I asked for documentation because you made it sound like it was something sinister and not just the way the government works.
I think of triangulation when I think sinister. You know like trading away much needed welfare programs for something they want. Bernie does not do that since he is for the little guy.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)I think some are truly clueless when it comes to Sanders and his political ambitions. It's not some small track record with a spatter here and a spatter there. He has been working with the party for decades and the party has been working with him. Truly so far as to scuttle primary challenges to him. It has never been a one way street. I think it is a positive for him and would be promoting it if I were a supporter of his in the primary.
I read my original post again and cannot find the sinister language or possible way to read a sinister tone in it.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)There will be crickets.
mcar
(42,278 posts)but now it's OK, or something.
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)but rather whether it is fair to offer it to only one candidate?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Because if it was ONLY Hillary it would be a tacit endorsement that the party is not authorized to make prior to the completion of the primary.
Seriously, do you really not see that as being a problem before people even get to attend their primaries and caucuses?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Candidates approach the DNC with offers to do this, not the other way around.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Did you also suggest that there was nothing wrong with the debate schedule and that this was a normal number and nothing serious had changed?
I'm sorry for bringing that up but you lost any credibility with me a long time ago.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)wrong.
I don't expect to be liked by people who don't understand the issues but offer up very opinionated viewpoints despite their not having a clue.
As when Hillary did this, this is an offer by the candidate to fundraise for the DNC for the general election fund.
You are behaving as if this is somehow benefitting to Hillary at the expense of other candidates if she is the only one doing it.
Raising money for the general election fund benefits whomever the nominees are.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I never said I don't like you. I said that you had lost any credability with me. It basically means that I really don't put a lot of stock in the things you post here.
I have friends that tell tall tales all the time.
I just don't vote based on them. You were wrong about the debates. Double extra special wrong.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)inaccurate. You could use the Google to get a better understanding and then come back with your arguments. Just a suggestion.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Is if I had control over where in the party the money went. No money for conservadems or political consultant jobs programs.
HubertHeaver
(2,520 posts)It appears to me the funds will be earmarked for the general election.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)for doing the same thing. It goes to show that haven't a clue how the party mechanics works
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251547069
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)He has a decades long record of working with the party and benefiting from it. Remember, his excitement has brought in many first-timers. They are learning.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)supposed to work with all of its candidates and not just one. The idea of both of them working to raise money for the GENERAL election is fine. And it does not surprise me that Bernie would be willing to do that.
Your link is about state committees - a part of the DNC. As a part of the DNC they should not be signing agreements to support one candidate over the others. If the DNC works for one candidate in the primary that is favoritism. So let me ask you if they are showing favoritism to Hillary why should any of the rest of us support them? And the fact that she plays these numbers games is one of the main reasons why many distrust her.
It is you that does not understand the mechanics. Or at least the way they used to be when the people selected the nominee and not the big shots in the party.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,965 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)'It's Ok If You Are Bernie Sanders'
As always, not talking about the Senator, but about his fans etc...
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L0oniX
(31,493 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I wouldn't trust the DNC. They have done nothing but pave the way for their preferred candidate and that ain't Bernie.