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Omaha Steve

(99,494 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:45 AM Sep 2015

Bernie Sanders Said to Be Close to Signing Fund-Raising Deal With Democratic Party


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/02/bernie-sanders-said-to-be-close-to-signing-fund-raising-deal-with-democratic-party/


2:28 PM ET By Maggie Haberman 9-2-15

Senator Bernie Sanders is on the verge of signing a joint fund-raising agreement with the Democratic National Committee, his aides said, a week after Hillary Rodham Clinton entered such an arrangement with the party.

It remains to be seen how a joint fund-raising agreement with Mr. Sanders, the Vermont independent who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, would be carried out. Mr. Sanders has never aggressively courted the types of party donors who hold major national events. But his aides indicated that he would like to help the committee build its war chest in preparation for the 2016 general election.

“Bernie is committed to trying to build the resources of the party for the election since we believe Bernie will be the nominee of the Democratic Party,” said the senator’s spokesman, Michael Briggs, adding that Mr. Sanders has helped his Senate colleagues raise funds in the past by appearing at events for the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.

“The campaign will review the proposed joint fund-raising agreement with the D.N.C.,” Mr. Briggs said, “and if there are no problems with it, then Jeff Weaver, the campaign manager, will sign it and Bernie will participate in events as the schedule allows.”

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Bernie Sanders Said to Be Close to Signing Fund-Raising Deal With Democratic Party (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2015 OP
K&R! Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #1
I really don't believe this INdemo Sep 2015 #2
Since this is happening, which do you think needs to change, your beliefs or reality? stevenleser Sep 2015 #5
This is the NYT INdemo Sep 2015 #9
Washington Post and others also reporting this. Sorry, it's happening. stevenleser Sep 2015 #12
I don't get why some have an issue with believing this. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #13
I know that Bernie has helped Democratic candidates jwirr Sep 2015 #25
He has a very long history of making deals with the party. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #29
Actually I am not surprise about this as he has jwirr Sep 2015 #30
My appologies if it sounded sinister. I did not mean that. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #32
Um, DWS was pissed out by Martin O'Malley's speech... brooklynite Sep 2015 #16
But DU lost its mind when HRC did this. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #3
Because it was bad then SonderWoman mcar Sep 2015 #4
Maybe it's not a matter of this kind of fundraising being good or bad thesquanderer Sep 2015 #7
You really dont understand what this is about, do you? nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #21
uhm... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #11
Nope, you have this backwards. stevenleser Sep 2015 #18
Yeah... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #20
All of the above, and I am glad you dont like me, if you did I would think I was doing something stevenleser Sep 2015 #22
I don't know you kenfrequed Sep 2015 #23
Your understanding of this process is completely Control-Z Sep 2015 #24
only way I'd ever participate in this sort of agreement ibegurpard Sep 2015 #6
No further information at the link. HubertHeaver Sep 2015 #8
Wait a minute weren't Sanders supporters excoriating Hillary a short time ago.......... Historic NY Sep 2015 #10
They might not have a clue how the party works, but Sanders does. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #14
Not quite. The DNC is a national organization that is jwirr Sep 2015 #27
The would be the DNC that's trying to rig the deck for Clinton? brooklynite Sep 2015 #15
One and the same... ismnotwasm Sep 2015 #19
'IOKIYABS' onehandle Sep 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #26
Trust the DNC to use donations given to help Bernie ...for Bernie? What's not to trust? L0oniX Sep 2015 #28
IT'S A TRAP! AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #31

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
2. I really don't believe this
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:32 AM
Sep 2015

Because DWS is totally against Bernie Sanders and to Sanders why would he want to help a party raise money when it will be funneled to Hillary No...not for one second do I think this will happen

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
5. Since this is happening, which do you think needs to change, your beliefs or reality?
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:28 AM
Sep 2015

Hint: This question has an obvious answer.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
9. This is the NYT
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:04 AM
Sep 2015

Reporting this. Why would Bernie,especially after his DNC speech which really pissed off DWS, jump on board to bring the DNC out of the red when those funds will be used against him because of his progressive message. The article also read that Bernie was considering this I think was I was being realistic and I believe that will be confirmed by Bernie Sanders campaign in a few days. The NYT ....well like I said dont trust them and check out the author of this article

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. Washington Post and others also reporting this. Sorry, it's happening.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:18 PM
Sep 2015

What is off is your perception of the situation and surrounding issues, not the article.

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
13. I don't get why some have an issue with believing this.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:24 PM
Sep 2015

Sanders has a long record of working with the party to benefit him in elections by removing primary challengers and financially benefiting from the party. Some have this false belief of who Sanders is.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
25. I know that Bernie has helped Democratic candidates
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:56 PM
Sep 2015

raise money for their campaigns in the past but can you document how he has been working with the party to benefit himself in the past?

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
29. He has a very long history of making deals with the party.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:45 AM
Sep 2015

Doing a brief search op from his own supporters can be found promoting his deals. There is huge amounts of info out there. I wasn't aware some didn't know about this part of his history.

"Sanders entered the race for the U.S. Senate on April 21, 2005, after Senator Jim Jeffords announced that he would not seek a fourth term. Chuck Schumer, Chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, endorsed Sanders, a critical move as it meant that no Democrat running against Sanders could expect to receive financial help from the party. Sanders was also endorsed by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Democratic National Committee Chairman and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean. Dean said in May 2005 that he considered Sanders an ally who "votes with the Democrats 98% of the time."[77] Then-Senator Barack Obama also campaigned for Sanders in Vermont in March 2006.[78] Sanders entered into an agreement with the Democratic Party, much as he had as a congressman, to be listed in their primary but to decline the nomination should he win, which he did.[79][80]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

If you decide to look, there were very intimate deals made much earlier than this. The democratic party has supported him for a long time. I know that doesn't fit in to the narrative some are attempting to build, but facts are facts. In the past, the party has actually scuttled primary challenges to him. It is extremely well known.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
30. Actually I am not surprise about this as he has
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 09:57 AM
Sep 2015

caucused with Democrats for years. And in fact he is more Democrat than many in the party. Very much an FDR Democrat. For that reason I actually approve of the endorsements.

Also seniority is an important factor in being a legislator and for that reason a person with seniority is more important than the new comer.

I see nothing wrong with this at all.

I asked for documentation because you made it sound like it was something sinister and not just the way the government works.

I think of triangulation when I think sinister. You know like trading away much needed welfare programs for something they want. Bernie does not do that since he is for the little guy.

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
32. My appologies if it sounded sinister. I did not mean that.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:03 AM
Sep 2015

I think some are truly clueless when it comes to Sanders and his political ambitions. It's not some small track record with a spatter here and a spatter there. He has been working with the party for decades and the party has been working with him. Truly so far as to scuttle primary challenges to him. It has never been a one way street. I think it is a positive for him and would be promoting it if I were a supporter of his in the primary.

I read my original post again and cannot find the sinister language or possible way to read a sinister tone in it.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
7. Maybe it's not a matter of this kind of fundraising being good or bad
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:49 AM
Sep 2015

but rather whether it is fair to offer it to only one candidate?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
11. uhm...
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:14 AM
Sep 2015

Because if it was ONLY Hillary it would be a tacit endorsement that the party is not authorized to make prior to the completion of the primary.

Seriously, do you really not see that as being a problem before people even get to attend their primaries and caucuses?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. Nope, you have this backwards.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:59 PM
Sep 2015

Candidates approach the DNC with offers to do this, not the other way around.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
20. Yeah...
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:02 PM
Sep 2015

Did you also suggest that there was nothing wrong with the debate schedule and that this was a normal number and nothing serious had changed?


I'm sorry for bringing that up but you lost any credibility with me a long time ago.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
22. All of the above, and I am glad you dont like me, if you did I would think I was doing something
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:05 PM
Sep 2015

wrong.

I don't expect to be liked by people who don't understand the issues but offer up very opinionated viewpoints despite their not having a clue.

As when Hillary did this, this is an offer by the candidate to fundraise for the DNC for the general election fund.

You are behaving as if this is somehow benefitting to Hillary at the expense of other candidates if she is the only one doing it.

Raising money for the general election fund benefits whomever the nominees are.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
23. I don't know you
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:09 PM
Sep 2015

I never said I don't like you. I said that you had lost any credability with me. It basically means that I really don't put a lot of stock in the things you post here.

I have friends that tell tall tales all the time.

I just don't vote based on them. You were wrong about the debates. Double extra special wrong.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
24. Your understanding of this process is completely
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:37 PM
Sep 2015

inaccurate. You could use the Google to get a better understanding and then come back with your arguments. Just a suggestion.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
6. only way I'd ever participate in this sort of agreement
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:31 AM
Sep 2015

Is if I had control over where in the party the money went. No money for conservadems or political consultant jobs programs.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
10. Wait a minute weren't Sanders supporters excoriating Hillary a short time ago..........
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:10 AM
Sep 2015

for doing the same thing. It goes to show that haven't a clue how the party mechanics works

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251547069

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
14. They might not have a clue how the party works, but Sanders does.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:26 PM
Sep 2015

He has a decades long record of working with the party and benefiting from it. Remember, his excitement has brought in many first-timers. They are learning.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
27. Not quite. The DNC is a national organization that is
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:09 PM
Sep 2015

supposed to work with all of its candidates and not just one. The idea of both of them working to raise money for the GENERAL election is fine. And it does not surprise me that Bernie would be willing to do that.

Your link is about state committees - a part of the DNC. As a part of the DNC they should not be signing agreements to support one candidate over the others. If the DNC works for one candidate in the primary that is favoritism. So let me ask you if they are showing favoritism to Hillary why should any of the rest of us support them? And the fact that she plays these numbers games is one of the main reasons why many distrust her.

It is you that does not understand the mechanics. Or at least the way they used to be when the people selected the nominee and not the big shots in the party.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. 'IOKIYABS'
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:47 PM
Sep 2015

'It's Ok If You Are Bernie Sanders'



As always, not talking about the Senator, but about his fans etc...

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
31. IT'S A TRAP!
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:01 AM
Sep 2015

I wouldn't trust the DNC. They have done nothing but pave the way for their preferred candidate and that ain't Bernie.

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