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Bernie Sanders finds his revolutionary rhetoric resonating in conservative Iowaby Dan Roberts * The Guardian via RawStory * Sept. 4, 2015
Bernie Sanders is on his third speech of the day, drenched in sweat, and losing his voice from calling for the overthrow of Americas billionaire class.
Brothers and sisters, you are not living in a democracy; you are living in an oligarchy, the leftwing Democratic presidential candidate tells an audience of Iowa supporters enthralled by his stinging attack on campaign finance and corporate lobbying. People fought and died to defend American democracy and I will be damned if I am going to let them take that away from us.
In theory, Sanderss campaign for the presidential nomination in 2016 breaks all the rules of modern politics. He is angry, dishevelled and making no attempt to soften his message for the tiny handful of TV cameras that have shown up.
This unabashed democratic socialist from Brooklyn via Vermont, which he represents as an independent US senator, talks about class, corruption and the pathological greed of the rich. Yet the middle-aged, midwestern audience greeting him here in one of the most conservative states in the country cannot get enough of it. Welcome to the political revolution, Sanders says to another loud cheer.
The large, adoring crowds are not new. Sanders first captured national attention this summer by filling venues with up to 20,000 supporters in liberal bastions like Portland, Oregon.
A succession of opinion polls showed him catching and then overtaking the establishment frontrunner Hillary Clinton in the early primary state of New Hampshire injecting sudden drama into a race that most pundits had initially decided was barely worth following compared with the excitement of the enormous Republican field, currently dominated by businessman and TV personality Donald Trump.
But what is new is the sight of Sanders challenging Clinton in Iowa, the first state to choose a candidate in caucuses held on 1 February and the scene of her humiliating defeat by Barack Obama in 2008.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/bernie-sanders-finds-his-revolutionary-rhetoric-resonating-in-conservative-iowa/
Faux pas
(14,667 posts)for Bernie, feeling the Bern!
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Though, the Portland Rally was attended by 28,000, including overflow crowds listening outside ...
Bernie is amazing ... He could stand to run a comb through hair before he hits the stage ... I know his mom would agree with me ... ):
global1
(25,241 posts)I know that Bernie uses that term in his speeches but I'm concerned that many Americans don't know the term or its definition. I'm wondering if he has to more fully explain that term so that his message sinks in? Am I being too concerned about this?
ol·i·gar·chy
ˈäləˌɡärkē/
noun
noun: oligarchy; plural noun: oligarchies
a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.
"the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president"
a country governed by an oligarchy.
"the English aristocratic oligarchy of the 19th century"
government by oligarchy.
elleng
(130,865 posts)when someone(s) asking if Governor O'Malley had used the term.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)if they didn't already know.
If you missed this, it's a local Iowa tv station's panel interviewing Bernie.
One reporter grills Bernie, asking "aren't you advocating Class Warfare?"
(this is about 16 minutes into the interview)
Bernie's answer is brilliant, and the news peeps seem to totally 'get it'
http://www.iptv.org/iowapress/episode.cfm/4301/video/ip_20150904_4301
Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)because the reporters, while asking a few tough questions, actually
seemed to be genuinely taking-in Bernie's message.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, 99th_Monkey.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)and NH .... then the MSM will have no choice but to cover him.
Go, Bernie!
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I am so very tired of the mainstream media ignoring the guy that has had the biggest campaign events of the year or downplaying the hell out of it.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-bias-mainstream-media-undermines-sanders-every-turn
azmom
(5,208 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)It's almost like the American Revolution never took place.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Well, it IS a political revolution after all.
Did you catch this interview of Bernie by local Iowa TV reporters,
Bernie is asked if he's "starting Class Warfare", his reply is brilliant,
http://www.iptv.org/iowapress/episode.cfm/4301/video/ip_20150904_4301
(the whole thing is awesome, the class warfare question is 16 minutes in)
jwirr
(39,215 posts)now it is right here in the USA.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)everywhere supporting Bernie. most of em are home made.
it is really interesting.
is there one central spot people can go to
to find out what Bernie supports and how he plans
to fix things?
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)This site has been established by volunteers to
give a bigger amount of info to voters than
Bernie's site does.
At least, I like it.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)back in February.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Brothers and sisters, you are not living in a democracy; you are living in an oligarchy, the leftwing Democratic presidential candidate tells an audience of Iowa supporters enthralled by his stinging attack on campaign finance and corporate lobbying. People fought and died to defend American democracy and I will be damned if I am going to let them take that away from us.
In theory, Sanderss campaign for the presidential nomination in 2016 breaks all the rules of modern politics. He is angry, dishevelled and making no attempt to soften his message for the tiny handful of TV cameras that have shown up.
Notice how the Reporter distracts from Bernie Sander's message by the reporters use of adjectives to describe Bernie.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)but notice how the people of Iowa are taking in Bernie's message in
this 1/2 hour interview by a local Iowa TV channel. 16 minutes
in, one reporter asks him "aren't you starting class warfare?", his
reply is brilliant as usual, AND it's clear to me that the panel of Iowan
reporters, while mildly stunned, were also positively impressed and were
actually taking- in his message.
http://www.iptv.org/iowapress/episode.cfm/4301/video/ip_20150904_4301
I think Bernie's making incredible inroads despite the M$M all but ignoring
him, which they cannot do forever, once he wins Iowa and NH, which seems
all but certain at this point.