2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary comments on the Iran Deal (during Andrea Mitchell interview Sept 4 )
On the Iran Deal:
AM: You're gonna be giving a big speech on Iran next week. At the same time, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are going to be holding a rally on Capitol Hill against the Iran Deal.
What do you say to your friends, many of them in the Jewish community, who think this is a terrible deal?
HRC: Right.
Well, that's why I'm giving a speech next Wednesday, because I was involved in the preliminary work. I helped to put together the sanctions that pushed Iran to the negotiating table. I was the person who explored the early efforts to see whether there could be a negotiation.
So, I believe that the agreement is not perfect. It is by no means some validation of Iran. You know, my view is, "Don't trust but verify."
But it is a very important step, and it is better than the alternatives.
So on Wednesday, I will be outlining in great detail both why I support the agreement, but equally importantly, what I would do as president to enforce it, to hold Iran accountable, and to make clear that no options were off the table.
They can never, ever have a nuclear weapon.
So this is not only about the agreement and what looks to be its approval by the Congress. It's about what comes next.
And I think the American people are going to want a president who supports diplomacy, even with those who are our adversaries, to try to reach the kind of understandings that we have, but who will also get up every day and enforce that agreement, strongly and vigilantly.
And I think that's a far better approach than some of the words you will hear on the same day I deliver my speech from those who apparently don't believe in diplomacy, don't believe in the hard work of putting together international coalitions, don't believe in trying to get the best deal you can, that don't believe it needs to be enforced the way that I would enforce it.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/04/1418549/-Unfiltered-Hillary-The-Andrea-Mitchell-Interview-9-4-15-v-1-0
HappyPlace
(568 posts)It's like she saved the world, created the whole Iran deal.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Who else would she be talking about? It's her campaign and her record.
Has anyone done an analysis of how many times each candidate uses the first person pronoun in an interview or is this only relating to HRC?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)riversedge
(70,187 posts)foundation. Others built upon it. The USA choose peace. Simple as that.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)The Iran deal is landmark policy.
Hillary grabbing the mic: "I'm gonna let you finish but ..."
karynnj
(59,501 posts)but, I noticed that President Obama thanked a long list of people for their incredible work on this back when it was announced. The person he credited most was the indefatigable Secretary of State, John Kerry. Then there was a Kerry speech - and again a long list of people credited on it, some American, some his peers. Neither mentioned Clinton at that moment of success. If she had had a major role at all, BOTH for Democratic political reasons would have highlighted whatever she did.
In fairness, I watched her interview - note that she - this time - was very careful to make no claims on the actual negotiations. There is nothing that she claimed that isn't 100% true. It is true that she DID lobby successfully for all the international sanctions. (Note that this part of our effort was totally without political risk - Netanyahu and every Republican was in agreement.)
Note the next thing thing she takes credit for -- being there when they sounded out if anything were possible.
Things not said -- the emissary sent by the Obama administration to open the back door in Oman was the then Chair of the SFRC. It is true that she was SoS during the first tentative secret talks - which were done by Jake Sullivan (now working for her campaign and working for the SD then and a close HRC aide) and William Burns. That was in 2012 and those talks petered out without success. They were revived in 2013 after Rouhani was elected - and Obama worked to open the conversation at that level and allowed Kerry and Zarif to meet. (The relationship and trust that developed between Kerry and Zarif and Moniz and his counterpart were essential.) To my knowledge, there was no Clinton Zarif meeting.
This is far better than many previous times I have heard or read her take and give credit. Judging from her book, she does seem to have a problem crediting Kerry. She took more credit then she gave him for persuading Kharzi of Afghanistan to follow his country's election law. On the Syrian Chemical weapon deal, she credits Putin and she positions herself as persuading Obama to accept the deal - Kerry? she follows the RW line that it was all a gaffe and ignores that he negotiated it. It is strange that as she is again handed the nomination on a silver platter that it seems she fears he might be better regarded than her. However, I have no complaints with these comments.
I also think she is smart to focus on what she could do with this in place if she would become President. Me, I hope that Kerry is rewarded for all the good work he has done with the Nobel Prize (probably in 2016 given the timing) and a Democrat becomes President in 2016.
HappyPlace
(568 posts).
I was involved in the preliminary work.
I helped to put together the sanctions that pushed Iran to the negotiating table.
I was the person who explored the early efforts to see whether there could be a negotiation.
Bam! Four "I" sentences in a row giving herself credit, more credit than deserved, and nobody else.
That's indicative of something, but not of leadership qualities.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)her of needlessly wasting valuable oxygen.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)You are obviously fine with that and completely mired in that cult of personality, and that puts you in no position to criticize the reaction she invokes with her self-centered, narcissistic behavior.
oasis
(49,376 posts)I'd catch the next yak headed to Tibet.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Good thing the Bush administration declined to do all of the warmongering that you allowed them to, Hillary.