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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 10:07 PM Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton’s Proxies Ramp Up Attacks Against Sanders

The front-runner’s campaign is more closely guarding its talking points recently, briefing surrogates only by phone.

By Annie Karni
09/04/15, 07:48 PM EDT

Stumping for Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, a trip partly paid by Clinton's campaign, Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy did more than defend the former secretary of State's email use -- he criticized Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ record on guns.

In Des Moines the same week, Texas Rep. Joaquin Castro, whose travel expenses were paid for by the Clinton campaign, knocked Sanders for a lack of outreach to Latinos.

And Thursday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has endorsed Clinton, drew another unflattering contrast between the top Democrats in the race. “I don’t think there’s any comparison between Hillary Clinton’s credentials and qualifications and positions, and Bernie Sanders,” Cuomo told reporters. “I do not see that as a close call.”

Clinton’s campaign, it appears, is unleashing the hounds. While the wounded front-runner is ignoring her competition in the primary race altogether -- she still does not utter Sanders’ name on the campaign trail – Brooklyn is paying the travel costs for proxies who are using their appearances in the early-voting states to criticize the surging senator.

Sen. Claire McCaskill first opened the floodgates on Sanders in June, arguing in a “Morning Joe” appearance that her Senate colleague is too liberal to be elected. “I very rarely read in any coverage of Bernie that he’s a socialist,” she said. Last month, she reiterated those attacks on CNN: "I think the question that some of us have is can someone who has said, 'I'm not a Democrat,' has chosen the title of socialist, is that person really electable?"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-2016-proxies-attack-bernie-sanders-213359#ixzz3kv7Mfiq1

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Hillary Clinton’s Proxies Ramp Up Attacks Against Sanders (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2015 OP
2016 is a test for the American people, not for the minions of the plutocrats (these have already Ron Green Sep 2015 #1
I agree, it's now or never. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #18
All I have to say is... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #2
The dislike just intensified these last few days. HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #7
I don't hate Hillary. I just don't see that she has the kind of mindset that America ladjf Sep 2015 #29
Hope it works if it is a tactic moobu2 Sep 2015 #3
I hope it backfires. HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #10
Claire makes a good point, but no one wants to hear that. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #4
Democratic attacks on him from the right will blow up in their faces AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #17
Good. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #5
Victory at any cost, eh? HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #8
Of course nichomachus Sep 2015 #15
good to see Clinton supporters openly endorsing sleazy, dishonest cali Sep 2015 #21
Well, after getting her two posts hidden trying to smear Bernie as a pedophile she is LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #38
Good, huh? tularetom Sep 2015 #26
This disgusts me. HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #6
It also speaks volumes that some of her supporters applaud these tactics. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #9
I'm right there with you bmus,... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #11
No matter what happens we'll be able to hold our heads high. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #12
Yes indeed. malokvale77 Sep 2015 #13
I don't see the GOP in a collapse at all. They will keep the Purveyor Sep 2015 #16
Disagree and agree. malokvale77 Sep 2015 #39
Sanders' Skidmore Sep 2015 #32
A candidate's supporters... HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #33
I'm interested in who Skidmore Sep 2015 #34
What a crock... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #40
Of the criticism noted, I really dislike McCaskill's and Castro's. David__77 Sep 2015 #14
I have to agree wth Cuomo here - Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #19
Coming from Cuomo, I'd take that as a compiment Armstead Sep 2015 #23
Hillary, always a class act. 99Forever Sep 2015 #20
Hillary is teh evil !!!! rolls eyes.. "travel paid for by Clinton"?! What about Supporters inspired uponit7771 Sep 2015 #22
"No need to demonize another to turn them into the enemy" Scootaloo Sep 2015 #27
Yeah, I noticed that........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2015 #28
I'm going to bask in post that now accept weak associations as operational ties as Bush admin did uponit7771 Sep 2015 #30
Funny you bring up Iraq, there. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #31
Yeap, she's "evolved" like sanders has done on a number of issues over his years in office uponit7771 Sep 2015 #35
Name one that resulted in three hundred and twenty thousand dead people Scootaloo Sep 2015 #36
I guess they signed the oligarchy pledge too. L0oniX Sep 2015 #24
It's a campaign. bigwillq Sep 2015 #25
Citicized Bernies record on guns? In NH?! bunnies Sep 2015 #37

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
1. 2016 is a test for the American people, not for the minions of the plutocrats (these have already
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 10:17 PM
Sep 2015

failed in their governance and basic honesty.)

We may yet fail this test, but we certainly ought to try: to build a real and transformative politics in this country - of, by and for the people.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
18. I agree, it's now or never.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:23 PM
Sep 2015

We've got the right candidate that only seems to come around once a generation - now it's time to catch that lightning.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
2. All I have to say is...
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 10:22 PM
Sep 2015

To hell with Hillary and all her surrogates.

I don't hate Hillary, but I strongly dislike her.

Go Bernie.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
29. I don't hate Hillary. I just don't see that she has the kind of mindset that America
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 01:33 PM
Sep 2015

needs to be able to guide us out of the mess we are in.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
10. I hope it backfires.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:35 PM
Sep 2015

Not criticizing you or your support of Hillary, but these types of tactics are sickening.

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
4. Claire makes a good point, but no one wants to hear that.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 10:38 PM
Sep 2015

Sanders fans, don't lightly dismiss this shot across the bow of the campaign. This is Presidential politics. People vote by a process that starts out in the lizard brain.

"Socialist" might seem insignificant to you, because you know what a "Democratic Socialist" is. But the general public doesn't.

Seriously, Bernie's job one is to address this right the F now. He's already proven he can get the people out to the rallies. Now comes the hard part.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
38. Well, after getting her two posts hidden trying to smear Bernie as a pedophile she is
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

relegated to merely cheering for sleazy tactics.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
26. Good, huh?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:12 PM
Sep 2015

It's politics right? If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen?

Don't come boo hooing around here if she gets the nomination and the republicans start tearing her limb from limb. Because they will do it and they're a lot better at it than she is. And she's given them plenty of ammunition.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
6. This disgusts me.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:30 PM
Sep 2015

It signifies everything that's wrong with our political system and the people who run it. One of the reasons I'm so enthusiastic about Bernie is the fact that he's never run a negative political ad in his life, runs his campaigns on the issues, and refuses to attack anybody (including Hillary Clinton) on a personal level. The only time you hear him say anything "negative" about Clinton is when he's comparing his stances on the issues to hers. That's it. And he doesn't send out surrogates to do the dirty work for him. Seriously Hillary, is this the impression you want people to have of you? You're too calculating to mention Bernie on your own so you have others do it for you? Boy, that speaks volumes...

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. It also speaks volumes that some of her supporters applaud these tactics.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:35 PM
Sep 2015

Yet when Republicans do the same thing to their candidate they scream bloody murder.

I'm proud of Bernie and I'm proud to support him.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. No matter what happens we'll be able to hold our heads high.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 11:52 PM
Sep 2015

Our candidate has integrity and honour.

Bernie's trying to make the campaign about issues, not politics as usual.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
13. Yes indeed.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 12:08 AM
Sep 2015

I often wonder if the Democratic Party ever thinks about the number of voters they are running off or the new voters they are failing to capture.

I'm not sure the GOP is the only party in collapse.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
16. I don't see the GOP in a collapse at all. They will keep the
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:44 PM
Sep 2015

Congress and if the "coronation" of Clinton succeeds, most likely the WH.

The situation is is dire and of our own making. Plan accordingly...

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
39. Disagree and agree.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:07 AM
Sep 2015

I think both parties are collapsing.

I believe the situation is dire and have and will continue to plan accordingly.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
32. Sanders'
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:48 PM
Sep 2015

supporters do a great job of catapaulting the negativity. I haven't made my mind up yet, but some of the stuff I've read on DU lately has made me take a second look at Hillary.

This statement brings to mind something about a pot and a kettle.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
33. A candidate's supporters...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:51 PM
Sep 2015

Should not be a reason whether or not to support that candidate. I'll also add that while a candidate cannot control what their supporters do or say (especially on the internet), the campaign that they run is a direct reflection of who they are as people.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
34. I'm interested in who
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:59 PM
Sep 2015

can be trusted to reach out to those not like them or to get their backs. I'm not sensing that much right now. I am seeing lot of fingerwagging and lecturing. Right now I'm sick to death of this election. It is one of the worst campaign seasons I've seen in my lifetime. Another year of this crap is incomprehensible. There is so much to lose and I think lots of people don't really care if the world blows up.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
40. What a crock...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:20 AM
Sep 2015

you don't see negativity being catapulted from Hillary supporters?

Yup, pot and kettle.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
14. Of the criticism noted, I really dislike McCaskill's and Castro's.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 12:23 AM
Sep 2015

OK, so I get Malloy stating his position that Clinton is more qualified. Alright.

Castro is a little worse, stating "I didn't come here to knock any of the candidates, but..." Often, whatever comes before "but" in a sentence is an attempt to deflect from what one really intends to communicate, in my opinion. I think that, yes, Castro did intend to "knock" a candidate.

As for McCaskill, she says "the question that some of us have is... is that person (Sanders) really electable?" Who is "some of us"? Does "some of us" include her or does it not include her? It strikes me as weasel words.

I get that everyone will have their position and they certainly don't need to cohere with what I think is ethical. This is me stating my opinion.

I haven't endorsed anyone for president.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
19. I have to agree wth Cuomo here -
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:25 PM
Sep 2015
And Thursday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has endorsed Clinton, drew another unflattering contrast between the top Democrats in the race. “I don’t think there’s any comparison between Hillary Clinton’s credentials and qualifications and positions, and Bernie Sanders,” Cuomo told reporters. “I do not see that as a close call.


Yep, Sanders is head and shoulders above Hillary. That's probably not what he meant.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
20. Hillary, always a class act.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:31 PM
Sep 2015


Didn't learn a damn thing from 2008. Still tone deaf, still a dirty campaigner.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
22. Hillary is teh evil !!!! rolls eyes.. "travel paid for by Clinton"?! What about Supporters inspired
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:40 AM
Sep 2015

.. by Sanders for any type of weak association!?

The Sanders "shit don't stink" meme is starting to ....

Stink

No need to demonize another to turn them into the enemy, Sanders policies et al should be standing on their own

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. "No need to demonize another to turn them into the enemy"
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:17 PM
Sep 2015

Wow. I'm just going to bask in the deep irony there.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
30. I'm going to bask in post that now accept weak associations as operational ties as Bush admin did
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:07 PM
Sep 2015

... with Iraq and Al-qeada.

This article looks like a needless lowered standard to associate someone who takes a dig at Sanders with Clinton.

I haven't heard Clinton attempting to call out Sanders.... sounds like dems are running a clean campaign

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
35. Yeap, she's "evolved" like sanders has done on a number of issues over his years in office
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:34 PM
Sep 2015

... cause none of those guys can throw stones

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
25. It's a campaign.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:58 AM
Sep 2015

Sometimes it will get dirty and nasty.

I can't stand Malloy. I live in CT and I think he's been awful.

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