2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s Proxies Ramp Up Attacks Against Sanders
The front-runners campaign is more closely guarding its talking points recently, briefing surrogates only by phone.By Annie Karni
09/04/15, 07:48 PM EDT
Stumping for Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, a trip partly paid by Clinton's campaign, Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy did more than defend the former secretary of State's email use -- he criticized Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders record on guns.
In Des Moines the same week, Texas Rep. Joaquin Castro, whose travel expenses were paid for by the Clinton campaign, knocked Sanders for a lack of outreach to Latinos.
And Thursday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has endorsed Clinton, drew another unflattering contrast between the top Democrats in the race. I dont think theres any comparison between Hillary Clintons credentials and qualifications and positions, and Bernie Sanders, Cuomo told reporters. I do not see that as a close call.
Clintons campaign, it appears, is unleashing the hounds. While the wounded front-runner is ignoring her competition in the primary race altogether -- she still does not utter Sanders name on the campaign trail Brooklyn is paying the travel costs for proxies who are using their appearances in the early-voting states to criticize the surging senator.
Sen. Claire McCaskill first opened the floodgates on Sanders in June, arguing in a Morning Joe appearance that her Senate colleague is too liberal to be elected. I very rarely read in any coverage of Bernie that hes a socialist, she said. Last month, she reiterated those attacks on CNN: "I think the question that some of us have is can someone who has said, 'I'm not a Democrat,' has chosen the title of socialist, is that person really electable?"
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-2016-proxies-attack-bernie-sanders-213359#ixzz3kv7Mfiq1
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)failed in their governance and basic honesty.)
We may yet fail this test, but we certainly ought to try: to build a real and transformative politics in this country - of, by and for the people.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)We've got the right candidate that only seems to come around once a generation - now it's time to catch that lightning.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)To hell with Hillary and all her surrogates.
I don't hate Hillary, but I strongly dislike her.
Go Bernie.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)What a low ball campaign "tactic"
ladjf
(17,320 posts)needs to be able to guide us out of the mess we are in.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)but I dont think we have anything to worry about in any case.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Not criticizing you or your support of Hillary, but these types of tactics are sickening.
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)Sanders fans, don't lightly dismiss this shot across the bow of the campaign. This is Presidential politics. People vote by a process that starts out in the lizard brain.
"Socialist" might seem insignificant to you, because you know what a "Democratic Socialist" is. But the general public doesn't.
Seriously, Bernie's job one is to address this right the F now. He's already proven he can get the people out to the rallies. Now comes the hard part.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Every time.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)That's how the Clintons roll. Don't ever turn your back on them.
cali
(114,904 posts)tactics.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)relegated to merely cheering for sleazy tactics.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)It's politics right? If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen?
Don't come boo hooing around here if she gets the nomination and the republicans start tearing her limb from limb. Because they will do it and they're a lot better at it than she is. And she's given them plenty of ammunition.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)It signifies everything that's wrong with our political system and the people who run it. One of the reasons I'm so enthusiastic about Bernie is the fact that he's never run a negative political ad in his life, runs his campaigns on the issues, and refuses to attack anybody (including Hillary Clinton) on a personal level. The only time you hear him say anything "negative" about Clinton is when he's comparing his stances on the issues to hers. That's it. And he doesn't send out surrogates to do the dirty work for him. Seriously Hillary, is this the impression you want people to have of you? You're too calculating to mention Bernie on your own so you have others do it for you? Boy, that speaks volumes...
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Yet when Republicans do the same thing to their candidate they scream bloody murder.
I'm proud of Bernie and I'm proud to support him.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I'm a proud supporter of Bernie Sanders.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Our candidate has integrity and honour.
Bernie's trying to make the campaign about issues, not politics as usual.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I often wonder if the Democratic Party ever thinks about the number of voters they are running off or the new voters they are failing to capture.
I'm not sure the GOP is the only party in collapse.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Congress and if the "coronation" of Clinton succeeds, most likely the WH.
The situation is is dire and of our own making. Plan accordingly...
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I think both parties are collapsing.
I believe the situation is dire and have and will continue to plan accordingly.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)supporters do a great job of catapaulting the negativity. I haven't made my mind up yet, but some of the stuff I've read on DU lately has made me take a second look at Hillary.
This statement brings to mind something about a pot and a kettle.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Should not be a reason whether or not to support that candidate. I'll also add that while a candidate cannot control what their supporters do or say (especially on the internet), the campaign that they run is a direct reflection of who they are as people.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)can be trusted to reach out to those not like them or to get their backs. I'm not sensing that much right now. I am seeing lot of fingerwagging and lecturing. Right now I'm sick to death of this election. It is one of the worst campaign seasons I've seen in my lifetime. Another year of this crap is incomprehensible. There is so much to lose and I think lots of people don't really care if the world blows up.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)you don't see negativity being catapulted from Hillary supporters?
Yup, pot and kettle.
David__77
(23,372 posts)OK, so I get Malloy stating his position that Clinton is more qualified. Alright.
Castro is a little worse, stating "I didn't come here to knock any of the candidates, but..." Often, whatever comes before "but" in a sentence is an attempt to deflect from what one really intends to communicate, in my opinion. I think that, yes, Castro did intend to "knock" a candidate.
As for McCaskill, she says "the question that some of us have is... is that person (Sanders) really electable?" Who is "some of us"? Does "some of us" include her or does it not include her? It strikes me as weasel words.
I get that everyone will have their position and they certainly don't need to cohere with what I think is ethical. This is me stating my opinion.
I haven't endorsed anyone for president.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)And Thursday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has endorsed Clinton, drew another unflattering contrast between the top Democrats in the race. I dont think theres any comparison between Hillary Clintons credentials and qualifications and positions, and Bernie Sanders, Cuomo told reporters. I do not see that as a close call.
Yep, Sanders is head and shoulders above Hillary. That's probably not what he meant.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Didn't learn a damn thing from 2008. Still tone deaf, still a dirty campaigner.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts).. by Sanders for any type of weak association!?
The Sanders "shit don't stink" meme is starting to ....
Stink
No need to demonize another to turn them into the enemy, Sanders policies et al should be standing on their own
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Wow. I'm just going to bask in the deep irony there.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... with Iraq and Al-qeada.
This article looks like a needless lowered standard to associate someone who takes a dig at Sanders with Clinton.
I haven't heard Clinton attempting to call out Sanders.... sounds like dems are running a clean campaign
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... cause none of those guys can throw stones
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Sometimes it will get dirty and nasty.
I can't stand Malloy. I live in CT and I think he's been awful.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Ha. Good luck with that.