A Citizens United Conundrum.

[Juicy_Bellows]

In order to get rid of money in politics you must gather as much cash as you can to win.

In order to get nicotine out of your system you must smoke as many cigarettes as you can.

Someone help me out here.

[SonderWoman]

1. Really hard to change the rules by losing.

[Juicy_Bellows]

2. True enough but there is a principle that needs to be met, no?

"I'm the last president that is going to run a campaign with billions of dollars, trust me."

I dunno, doesn't sound too convincing.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. +1000 ^

You can't effect change unless you win.

Better take all the money you can get from everywhere. Even though they won't like you at DU.
Fortunately DU is so small by comparison to the electorate they don't even register a 1/1000 of a percent. Do the math some time.

Basically post here because no one will see it.

[HappyPlace]

6. They are MAKING HER DO IT! She has no choice.

Hillary has to play like the Republicans if she wants to beat them, is that it?

Wow, she is so going to lose.

[SonderWoman]

7. Yes. You have to beat them at their own game.

Or are you content with a Repub president?

[unblock]

4. if there's any hope, it's in the supreme court.

not *this* supreme court, of course, but some future court with more reasonable legal minds.

yes, they too would owe their cushy life-tenured job to that same corrupt system, but we only need 5 votes, and they are less beholden to the corruption than congress, the presidency, or the state legislatures.

[Juicy_Bellows]

5. Yes, very true.

I like that Sanders has said numerous times that any supreme court nominee during his administration must be on board to overturn it. Someone can correct me if I am mistaken, but I have not heard that specifically from Hillary.

[SonderWoman]

8. You are mistaken:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/14/hillary-clintons-litmus-test-for-supreme-court-nominees-a-pledge-to-overturn-citizens-united/

[Juicy_Bellows]

9. Thank you!

That is good news.

[aidbo]

10. Wolf-Pac.com

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Wolf-Pac.com is a PAC that is set up to get the states to call for a constitutional convention to put an amendment in the constitution to do away with corporate person-hood etc. Their website does a much better job explaining it than I do, but the part I like is that they are completely by-passing congress to do it. That way, you don't have to try to get the corrupted to vote against their own corruption.

?

[Juicy_Bellows]

11. Yes, I am on board with Wolf-Pac!

Thank you for posting and reminding folks!

[aidbo]

12. As Cenk likes to say:

"They're not comin' for us, we're comin' for them!"

[Juicy_Bellows]

13. OF COURSE! I like that one too. Cheers! Nt.