2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Surges Past Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush Implodes in New 2016 Poll
In a new NBC News/Wall Street journal poll, Sanders sits at 49 percent vs. Clintons 38 percent; the poll showed many voters cited Clintons personal email use as a problem for them.
As the Vermont Senator surges, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush once thought to be the shoo-in candidate for the Republicans fell to 6 percent support in an Iowa poll, 23 points behind frontrunner Donald Trump. The real estate mogul drew 29 percent support while Dr. Ben Carson came in second at 22 percent.
https://www.thewrap.com/bernie-sanders-surges-past-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-implodes-in-new-2016-polls/
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Bern Baby Bern!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The time will come when the M$M can't ignore him any longer. And that time ticks closer every day.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Did I miss any?
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I lost track after the He's pro-war!!1! talking points appeared.
My brain shuts down when I read stuff like that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Seriously the new technology showing the debris field really helps at night.
Still can't read easy when the sirens are going off though.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Saw this on Jalopnik this week.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's obvious that they're trying to intimidate HC supporters who drive flimsy luxury vehicles.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and sipping latte!
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)It's everywhere...I am viciously sporting a Bernie bumper sticker and there were a bunch of Bernie people viciously gathering signatures to get him on the primary ballot at our Labor Day picnic today. They are unbelievable...and mean!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's all part of the plan!
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)I can't believe how they do that...everyone knows.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)and viciously mob someone!
I hate them!
mountain grammy
(26,594 posts)be still my heart! If these kids get rolling, we're gonna win!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I heard only white people go to his rallies.
There's a black man, an Asian woman and a black woman front and center. I also see some mixed in the crowd.
Photoshop!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I bet they all have white sheets with pointy hoods in their closets!
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I bet they even use "facts" that clearly aren't true because they interfere with the inevitability of HRC.
I mean really...don't these people know she deserves the presidency? Obviously anything that obstructs her entitlement must be false!
Phew... I need to dial back the snark
Logical
(22,457 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I love it!
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)So here. Without and with wings:
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Bernie Sanders has moved past Hillary Clinton for the first time in the 2016 presidential campaign, jumping ahead of the former Secretary of State by nine points in New Hampshire. - See more at: https://www.thewrap.com/bernie-sanders-surges-past-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-implodes-in-new-2016-polls/#sthash.xdGKUPM1.dpuf
...
Fail.
You really are a brilliant one.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)'Cause it isn't his home state......
Nor is it that similar politically. NH is much more libertarian than VT. That's why Gore barely lost it while crushing W in VT.
dflprincess
(28,068 posts)Just like Minnesota is next to Wisconsin (on the east) and both Dakotas (on the west).
Yet so little in common.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)VT has the Green Mountains, NH the White Mountains
Monters consider Graniteheads barely evolved primitives. Graniteheads are sure that Monters are slumming Flatlanders.
Vermont: 300,000 cows can't be wrong
New Hampshire: Welcome to NH, leave your money, go home.
Progressive is well liked in VT. NH likes cranky and straight talk.
Anything else?
bunnies
(15,859 posts)sarge43
(28,940 posts)It really should be "....go away."
bunnies
(15,859 posts)edit because apparently I cant form a sentence today.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)I'd vote for that.
LeftOfWest
(482 posts)Thanks.
n/t. wait..
VT. wait..
Yeah I know where Vermont is in the world.
cali
(114,904 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Not sure if it was you, but its good advice
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)And aside foam the obvious that New Hampshire isn't Sander's home state, it speaks well of him that in an area where he is relatively well known that he is doing so well. Chris Christie could only wish for the same in his home state.
Logical
(22,457 posts)mopinko
(69,965 posts)sad. disappointing.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)When Bernie talks...people listen.
And then they tell others about Bernie.
Then they all vote for Bernie!
peacebird
(14,195 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)When there is no mention of the email topic in the poll itself. "many voters cited Clintons personal email use as a problem for them" could mean 12% of them or 99%.
They can't go drawing attention to his super-high favorability and popular positions, now can they?
tclambert
(11,084 posts)Unheard of! They care more about candidates' hair. Or as The Onion says it: the number 1 issue is bullshit.
(Okay, it's from 2008, but somehow has a timeless quality to it.)
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,134 posts)Come on Hillary supporters, guess we'd better pack up now.
jfern
(5,204 posts)And also the only poll they ever did in VT
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)If I recall that's what the Hillary Clinton supporters did in 2008.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The man could fill a stadium in Red Bakersfield. He's got California if he wants it.
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He very likely has the whole west coast!
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,134 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and they think if Biden drops out...Bernie will get half!!!
My sides are killing me!!!
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Now, on to beating the Republicans.
Logical
(22,457 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,134 posts)Sanders' favorable rating among Democrats is barely 40%.
And after a quarter century in Congress, Sanders has done so little that over 50% of Democrats either have no opinion about him, or have no idea who he is.
Obama had been in Congress for just over 2 years and yet only 14% of Democrats didn't know who he was.
Try again.
Logical
(22,457 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,134 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)debt in 2012.
At least she pulled herself out of poverty after her and Bill left the whitehouse.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)to tell your bank$ter owners what they want to hear: that she's for business as usual for the bank$ter$.
Logical
(22,457 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,134 posts)She'll definitely do better than Sanders, who after 25 years in office has done so little barely anyone knows who he is.
Logical
(22,457 posts)be nervous also.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)totally legit!
RandySF
(58,366 posts)Hillary will be the Democratic nominee and the Republican will be Bush or Walker.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Because she would be even worse as the actual nominee, compared to her ineffective efforts to be inevitable.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I feel it more when her supporters and surrogates start making things up and attacking Bernie supporters.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)74% in the Primary....57% in the General....desperation indeed!
You realize this is WITH Joe Biden right?
Now lets take a look at how she did in Georgia and Florida....you know....those states that actually have PoC....
How did she do there? She kicked ass!