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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:05 PM Sep 2015

Bernie Sanders Surges Past Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush Implodes in New 2016 Poll

Bernie Sanders has moved past Hillary Clinton for the first time in the 2016 presidential campaign, jumping ahead of the former Secretary of State by nine points in New Hampshire.

In a new NBC News/Wall Street journal poll, Sanders sits at 49 percent vs. Clinton’s 38 percent; the poll showed many voters cited Clinton’s personal email use as a problem for them.

As the Vermont Senator surges, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush — once thought to be the shoo-in candidate for the Republicans — fell to 6 percent support in an Iowa poll, 23 points behind frontrunner Donald Trump. The real estate mogul drew 29 percent support while Dr. Ben Carson came in second at 22 percent.


https://www.thewrap.com/bernie-sanders-surges-past-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-implodes-in-new-2016-polls/
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Bernie Sanders Surges Past Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush Implodes in New 2016 Poll (Original Post) Bubzer Sep 2015 OP
And we ain't seen nothing yet! nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #1
We ain't Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #28
Nope. hifiguy Sep 2015 #85
Outlier! White people! The surge is over! Free stuff! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #2
Volvos? Bubzer Sep 2015 #3
Yes! Elitist latte sipping Volvo drivers! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5
Needs updating, they are subarus now nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #7
Ah, I haven't been keeping up with the memes. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #9
I just find then ammusing nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #11
They're spinning so fast the debris field is showing up on radar. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #12
Bwahaha! As someone who lives in Tornado Alley, I really appreciate the metaphor. kath Sep 2015 #16
Thanks! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #31
Unstoppable Volvos Mnpaul Sep 2015 #48
So THAT'S why Bernie fans prefer Volvos!!! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #59
Where are they all coming from? In every poll there are more and more of them, all driving volvos sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #68
Bernie supporters are so vicious in their support ibegurpard Sep 2015 #13
They even *GASP* wear t-shirts! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14
their tshirt wearing is sooo vicious.. ibegurpard Sep 2015 #15
Almost as bad as the vicious button wearers, just LOOK at the evil: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #17
They look like they're about to hit the internet ibegurpard Sep 2015 #36
Young faces looking happy and enthusiastic mountain grammy Sep 2015 #45
That can't be real. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #52
White supremacist crowds! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #58
And drive volvos...er... suburus... Bubzer Sep 2015 #67
Some of them cheer like crazy people. They scare me. nt Logical Sep 2015 #89
Weekend at Bernies! Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #32
A long weekend! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #34
Haha! Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #54
Heheh Bubzer Sep 2015 #56
+1 Bubzer Sep 2015 #55
*chortle nt artislife Sep 2015 #43
Forgot one: He's only ahead in ONE state!!1! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #44
Just unicorns. hifiguy Sep 2015 #86
OMG Bernie may win his home state! SonderWoman Sep 2015 #4
I am sure this will come as a surprise to the SENATOR FROM VERMONT as well nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #8
... Bubzer Sep 2015 #69
Lol. Agschmid Sep 2015 #10
OMFG. kath Sep 2015 #18
It's usually a good idea to take a moment to confirm the attack before making it. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #19
You guys know where NH is in relation to VT? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #20
No, where? Agony Sep 2015 #21
... Bubzer Sep 2015 #70
Yes. Do you? jeff47 Sep 2015 #22
Are they next to each other? dflprincess Sep 2015 #24
Yeah, VT is due west of NH, the border is the Connecticut River sarge43 Sep 2015 #29
"New Hampshire: Welcome to NH, leave your money, go home. " bunnies Sep 2015 #62
It's why we like cranky sarge43 Sep 2015 #73
Think we could get the state to change our welcome signs? bunnies Sep 2015 #74
"Leaving? Good." sarge43 Sep 2015 #76
Please own your mistake. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #60
good grief. you just keep getting more agitated. cali Sep 2015 #27
I seem to recall somone recently saying somthing about not feeding the trolls. Bubzer Sep 2015 #57
? Fuddnik Sep 2015 #30
So he is better than Gore? Mnpaul Sep 2015 #50
It's too bad Hillary does't have good name recognition outside of New York Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #61
LOL, how clueless are you? Wiki Bernie and get back to us. nt Logical Sep 2015 #90
iow- the voters echo the echo chamber. mopinko Sep 2015 #6
Just keep on being Bernie, Bernie! SoapBox Sep 2015 #23
^^^^this!^^^^ peacebird Sep 2015 #25
Yes! Bubzer Sep 2015 #71
Notice how they try to spin it as being all about the email crap? arcane1 Sep 2015 #26
What? You think policy positions can influence people's political judgments? tclambert Sep 2015 #33
Love The Onion! Bubzer Sep 2015 #79
Then why does he ONLY have a 5% chance in the General? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #41
Sanders is ahead in one poll in one state! That's it, game over, he's won. NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #35
He's ahead in the last 3 polls in NH jfern Sep 2015 #37
and STILL he only has a 5% chance in the General!!!! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #40
Two of the smallest states in the country. shenmue Sep 2015 #46
Don't worry, you guys will start insulting all of the caucus states soon jfern Sep 2015 #47
Then the red states and the small states davidpdx Sep 2015 #93
22,000 plus in Los Angeles. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #66
+1 Bubzer Sep 2015 #72
Yes, but your fellow Hillary supporters used to claim he wouldn't even get one. Bubzer Sep 2015 #80
Well then, Sanders might win a state. Time to pack it up. NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #51
with Biden still in it too! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #39
That'd be a good idea. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #65
LOL, proud she lost a 30 point lead to obama in 2008? You crack me up! Nt Logical Sep 2015 #75
Sanders is no Obama. Not even close. NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #81
But Hillary is still Hillary. That is your issue. nt Logical Sep 2015 #82
And that's exactly why I'm voting for her. NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #83
Get ready for disappointment. Lose the General if she is the nominee. She just paid off the 2008.... Logical Sep 2015 #84
Not difficult when you get $250,000 per speech hifiguy Sep 2015 #87
So true! nt Logical Sep 2015 #88
She will handily beat any Republican running. NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #91
LOL, you hillary people are getting desperate. Don't blame you. After the 2008 failure I would.... Logical Sep 2015 #92
Yeah with Biden still in it... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #38
Excellent! Owl Sep 2015 #42
At the end of the day RandySF Sep 2015 #49
Trying to curse us, are you? ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #53
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #63
It feels like desperation is setting in amongst Camp Hillary. nt Romulox Sep 2015 #64
You're right. It does have that feel. Bubzer Sep 2015 #78
Desperation? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #77
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
85. Nope.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:37 PM
Sep 2015

The time will come when the M$M can't ignore him any longer. And that time ticks closer every day.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. Ah, I haven't been keeping up with the memes.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:33 PM
Sep 2015

I lost track after the He's pro-war!!1! talking points appeared.

My brain shuts down when I read stuff like that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
31. Thanks!
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:48 PM
Sep 2015

Seriously the new technology showing the debris field really helps at night.

Still can't read easy when the sirens are going off though.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
59. So THAT'S why Bernie fans prefer Volvos!!!
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 04:41 AM
Sep 2015

It's obvious that they're trying to intimidate HC supporters who drive flimsy luxury vehicles.


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
68. Where are they all coming from? In every poll there are more and more of them, all driving volvos
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:24 PM
Sep 2015

and sipping latte!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
13. Bernie supporters are so vicious in their support
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:40 PM
Sep 2015

It's everywhere...I am viciously sporting a Bernie bumper sticker and there were a bunch of Bernie people viciously gathering signatures to get him on the primary ballot at our Labor Day picnic today. They are unbelievable...and mean!

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
52. That can't be real.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:42 PM
Sep 2015

I heard only white people go to his rallies.

There's a black man, an Asian woman and a black woman front and center. I also see some mixed in the crowd.

Photoshop!

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
67. And drive volvos...er... suburus...
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:15 PM
Sep 2015

I bet they even use "facts" that clearly aren't true because they interfere with the inevitability of HRC.
I mean really...don't these people know she deserves the presidency? Obviously anything that obstructs her entitlement must be false!

Phew... I need to dial back the snark

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. I am sure this will come as a surprise to the SENATOR FROM VERMONT as well
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:32 PM
Sep 2015

Bernie Sanders has moved past Hillary Clinton for the first time in the 2016 presidential campaign, jumping ahead of the former Secretary of State by nine points in New Hampshire. - See more at: https://www.thewrap.com/bernie-sanders-surges-past-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush-implodes-in-new-2016-polls/#sthash.xdGKUPM1.dpuf

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. Yes. Do you?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:09 PM
Sep 2015

'Cause it isn't his home state......

Nor is it that similar politically. NH is much more libertarian than VT. That's why Gore barely lost it while crushing W in VT.

dflprincess

(28,068 posts)
24. Are they next to each other?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:17 PM
Sep 2015

Just like Minnesota is next to Wisconsin (on the east) and both Dakotas (on the west).

Yet so little in common.


sarge43

(28,940 posts)
29. Yeah, VT is due west of NH, the border is the Connecticut River
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:43 PM
Sep 2015

VT has the Green Mountains, NH the White Mountains

Monters consider Graniteheads barely evolved primitives. Graniteheads are sure that Monters are slumming Flatlanders.

Vermont: 300,000 cows can't be wrong

New Hampshire: Welcome to NH, leave your money, go home.

Progressive is well liked in VT. NH likes cranky and straight talk.

Anything else?

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
74. Think we could get the state to change our welcome signs?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:08 PM
Sep 2015
People leaving NH over the MA border it could see... "Leaving? Good."

edit because apparently I cant form a sentence today.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
57. I seem to recall somone recently saying somthing about not feeding the trolls.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:56 AM
Sep 2015

Not sure if it was you, but its good advice

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
61. It's too bad Hillary does't have good name recognition outside of New York
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:37 AM
Sep 2015

And aside foam the obvious that New Hampshire isn't Sander's home state, it speaks well of him that in an area where he is relatively well known that he is doing so well. Chris Christie could only wish for the same in his home state.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
23. Just keep on being Bernie, Bernie!
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:12 PM
Sep 2015

When Bernie talks...people listen.

And then they tell others about Bernie.

Then they all vote for Bernie!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. Notice how they try to spin it as being all about the email crap?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:24 PM
Sep 2015

When there is no mention of the email topic in the poll itself. "many voters cited Clinton’s personal email use as a problem for them" could mean 12% of them or 99%.

They can't go drawing attention to his super-high favorability and popular positions, now can they?

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
33. What? You think policy positions can influence people's political judgments?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:58 PM
Sep 2015

Unheard of! They care more about candidates' hair. Or as The Onion says it: the number 1 issue is bullshit.

&index=17&list=PLn2K6rez7mW7AgnNG1jPpkCKodILKr6Ns

(Okay, it's from 2008, but somehow has a timeless quality to it.)

NYC Liberal

(20,134 posts)
35. Sanders is ahead in one poll in one state! That's it, game over, he's won.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:01 PM
Sep 2015

Come on Hillary supporters, guess we'd better pack up now.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
93. Then the red states and the small states
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 08:46 AM
Sep 2015

If I recall that's what the Hillary Clinton supporters did in 2008.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
66. 22,000 plus in Los Angeles.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:25 AM
Sep 2015

The man could fill a stadium in Red Bakersfield. He's got California if he wants it.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
39. with Biden still in it too!
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:08 PM
Sep 2015

and they think if Biden drops out...Bernie will get half!!!

My sides are killing me!!!

NYC Liberal

(20,134 posts)
81. Sanders is no Obama. Not even close.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:30 PM
Sep 2015
Obama had a nearly 70% favorable rating among Democrats around this time in 2007.



Sanders' favorable rating among Democrats is barely 40%.



And after a quarter century in Congress, Sanders has done so little that over 50% of Democrats either have no opinion about him, or have no idea who he is.

Obama had been in Congress for just over 2 years and yet only 14% of Democrats didn't know who he was.

Try again.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
84. Get ready for disappointment. Lose the General if she is the nominee. She just paid off the 2008....
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Sep 2015

debt in 2012.

At least she pulled herself out of poverty after her and Bill left the whitehouse.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
87. Not difficult when you get $250,000 per speech
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:00 PM
Sep 2015

to tell your bank$ter owners what they want to hear: that she's for business as usual for the bank$ter$.

NYC Liberal

(20,134 posts)
91. She will handily beat any Republican running.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:55 PM
Sep 2015

She'll definitely do better than Sanders, who after 25 years in office has done so little barely anyone knows who he is.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
92. LOL, you hillary people are getting desperate. Don't blame you. After the 2008 failure I would....
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:00 PM
Sep 2015

be nervous also.

RandySF

(58,366 posts)
49. At the end of the day
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:53 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary will be the Democratic nominee and the Republican will be Bush or Walker.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
53. Trying to curse us, are you?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:24 AM
Sep 2015

Because she would be even worse as the actual nominee, compared to her ineffective efforts to be inevitable.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
78. You're right. It does have that feel.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 02:30 PM
Sep 2015

I feel it more when her supporters and surrogates start making things up and attacking Bernie supporters.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
77. Desperation?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:38 PM
Sep 2015


74% in the Primary....57% in the General....desperation indeed!

You realize this is WITH Joe Biden right?


Now lets take a look at how she did in Georgia and Florida....you know....those states that actually have PoC....

How did she do there? She kicked ass!
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