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Hillary giving speech on Iran Deal. msnbc may cover. Here is a LIVE link (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2015 OP
A Significant Victory for our side, riveredge.. thank you! Cha Sep 2015 #1
Spot on Cha. some tweets... riversedge Sep 2015 #3
Thank you, Hillary & riversedge~ Cha Sep 2015 #7
K&R mcar Sep 2015 #2
Great timing on Hillary's part-with the vote coming maybe at end of week. riversedge Sep 2015 #4
*** C-span2 will also Cover LIVE**** riversedge Sep 2015 #5
@HillaryClinton arrives at Brookings for her address on the #IranDeal. Photo.. riversedge Sep 2015 #6
Cspan cut off the Repub leader OH OH! Live now on cspan riversedge Sep 2015 #8
Host is saying riversedge Sep 2015 #9
Hillary will have Q&A session following speech riversedge Sep 2015 #10
Clinton: Either we move forward on the path of diplomacy...or we turn down a more dangerous path. riversedge Sep 2015 #11
As Hillary lays out a thoughtful plan for countering Iran, check out Rs' irresponsible antics: riversedge Sep 2015 #12
Clinton: w/Congressional outcome not in much doubt now, we have to start looking at what comes next. riversedge Sep 2015 #13
Hillary is hoarse sounding today. Very serious tone--as it should be. riversedge Sep 2015 #14
Clinton takes on Dick Cheney right off the bat on Iran: Iran built nuke program under his watch riversedge Sep 2015 #15
Hillary--"There's absolutely no reason to trust Iran." riversedge Sep 2015 #16
Clinton-->My approach to Iran as prez will be "distrust and verify". riversedge Sep 2015 #17
Awesome. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #18
Agree. She also riversedge Sep 2015 #22
Exceptional foreign policy knowledge on display. oasis Sep 2015 #28
@HillaryClinton: Here's my message to Iran: The US will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon riversedge Sep 2015 #19
Clinton: Diplomacy is not the pursuit of perfection, it's balancing risk riversedge Sep 2015 #20
Republicans respond to excellent @HillaryClinton #IranDeal speech with fake scandal pushed by Fox N riversedge Sep 2015 #21
I believe this deal w joint strategy to implant strengthens #Israel though I say w humility - I'm no riversedge Sep 2015 #23
Hillary's providing a strong argument on how US can back #IranDeal and continue to support Israel, riversedge Sep 2015 #24
Brilliant speech. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #25
It could have been a brilliant speech had she curbed her tendency to rewrite her role karynnj Sep 2015 #42
This isn't a nominee I'm watching, this is a President #hillaryoniran #IranDeal riversedge Sep 2015 #26
if she's president, I have no doubt that hawk Hillary will get us into a war cali Sep 2015 #27
your doubts are wrong. riversedge Sep 2015 #30
no they aren't. they are backed up by her uber hawkish views and.record. cali Sep 2015 #33
BTW--Barb Boxer is on cspan right now--saying basically the same as Hillary did-- riversedge Sep 2015 #31
OFFS. Hillary started the negotiations on the Iran deal. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #35
OH MYGAWD "Republican histamines are all over"--Hill said she is suffering riversedge Sep 2015 #29
The GOP's Dangerous Iran Antics... riversedge Sep 2015 #32
I'm very disappointed to see the hawkish return of Hillary the neocon. procon Sep 2015 #34
Bernie is a big fan of the F-35. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #36
Don't assume I'm supporting Sanders anymore than Clinton at this time. procon Sep 2015 #39
Bernie is not a Democrat. nt SunSeeker Sep 2015 #40
Nor is he a Republican, however, procon Sep 2015 #41
Thanks for the post, riversedge! SunSeeker Sep 2015 #37
I thought that she did an excellent job. BlueMTexpat Sep 2015 #38

Cha

(297,154 posts)
1. A Significant Victory for our side, riveredge.. thank you!
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:08 AM
Sep 2015
Trita Parsi
✔ ‎@tparsi
BREAKING: IT'S DONE!! 41Senators now back the #IranDeal - Obama doesn't have to use his veto!! HUGE VICTORY!
@MarkRuffalo @JohnFugelsang
5:19 AM - 8 Sep 2015 154 154 Retweets
115 115 favorites

Trita Parsi
✔ ‎@tparsi
Significance of this victory cant be overstated. Our side was Obama and a large, diversity coalition. The other side was 2-4 billionaires...
5:34 AM - 8 Sep 2015
69 69 Retweets 46 46 favorites

Thank you, President Obama, SOS Kerry and VP Biden!

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
3. Spot on Cha. some tweets...
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:10 AM
Sep 2015


LIVE:


Jesse Lehrich @JesseLehrich

Clinton will vow to vigorously enforce the #IranDeal AND lay out a 5 point plan to counter Iran's other nefarious behavior. #HillaryOnIran
Retweeted by Lee Jolliffe

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
6. @HillaryClinton arrives at Brookings for her address on the #IranDeal. Photo..
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:17 AM
Sep 2015





Brookings FP
‏@BrookingsFP

@HillaryClinton arrives at Brookings for her address on the #IranDeal. #hillaryoniran

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
11. Clinton: Either we move forward on the path of diplomacy...or we turn down a more dangerous path.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:24 AM
Sep 2015




1m
Brookings

@BrookingsInst

.@HillaryClinton: Either we move forward on the path of diplomacy...or we turn down a more dangerous path. #HillaryOnIran

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
12. As Hillary lays out a thoughtful plan for countering Iran, check out Rs' irresponsible antics:
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:27 AM
Sep 2015


Jesse Lehrich @JesseLehrich

As Hillary lays out a thoughtful plan for countering Iran, check out Rs' irresponsible antics: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/09/08/dangerous-gop-iran-antics/ … #HillaryOnIran
Retweeted by Emmy Bengtson


The GOP's Dangerous Iran Antics


In lieu of a viable alternative to the deal, top Republicans candidates have largely resorted to dangerous gamesmanship.

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
13. Clinton: w/Congressional outcome not in much doubt now, we have to start looking at what comes next.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:30 AM
Sep 2015



US-Islamic World @usislam

.@HillaryClinton: w/Congressional outcome not in much doubt now, we have to start looking at what comes next. #HillaryOnIran

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
15. Clinton takes on Dick Cheney right off the bat on Iran: Iran built nuke program under his watch
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:33 AM
Sep 2015



Mark Landler

@MarkLandler

Clinton takes on Dick Cheney right off the bat on Iran: Iran built nuke program under his watch #HillaryOnIran
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Guus Valk @apjvalk

"I support this deal—as part of a larger strategy toward Iran, (..) a 'ruthless regime". #hillaryoniran
Washington, DC, United States

7m

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
16. Hillary--"There's absolutely no reason to trust Iran."
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:34 AM
Sep 2015

Jacob Kornbluh @jacobkornbluh

"There's absolutely no reason to trust Iran." #HillaryonIran

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
17. Clinton-->My approach to Iran as prez will be "distrust and verify".
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:36 AM
Sep 2015



Tamara Cofman Wittes @tcwittes

Without a deal we'd have no credible inspections. W a deal we'll be able to monitor every aspect of their nuke program. #HillaryOnIran
Retweeted by Amani Soliman
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Stefan Grobe

@StefanGrobe1

#HillaryOnIran: My approach to Iran as prez will be "distrust and verify". @euronews @BrookingsFP
 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
18. Awesome.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:37 AM
Sep 2015

She is going to be excellent building off the success of Obama and forging her own way for our future.

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
19. @HillaryClinton: Here's my message to Iran: The US will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:38 AM
Sep 2015


Jacob Kornbluh @jacobkornbluh

Strong line by @HillaryClinton: "I wIll not hesitate to use miliatry action if Iran attempts to develop nuclear weapons." #HillaryonIran

5m


2m
Brookings

@BrookingsInst

@HillaryClinton: Here's my message to Iran: The US will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon. #HillaryOnIran
Retweeted by İlkay Öztürk

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
20. Clinton: Diplomacy is not the pursuit of perfection, it's balancing risk
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:39 AM
Sep 2015

The Iran Project @IranProject2015

Diplomacy is not the pursuit of perfection, it's balancing risk #HillaryOnIran
Retweeted by Sina Aboutalebi
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riversedge

(70,195 posts)
21. Republicans respond to excellent @HillaryClinton #IranDeal speech with fake scandal pushed by Fox N
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:42 AM
Sep 2015

Shows how petty and small-minded fox is.




Peace Is Active @peaceisactive

Republicans respond to excellent @HillaryClinton #IranDeal speech with fake scandal pushed by Fox News. #gopfail #HillaryOnIran #UniteBlue

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
23. I believe this deal w joint strategy to implant strengthens #Israel though I say w humility - I'm no
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:45 AM
Sep 2015


Natan Sachs @natansachs

#HillaryOnIran @BrookingsInst I believe this deal w joint strategy to implant strengthens #Israel though I say w humility - I'm not Israeli
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Brookings

@BrookingsInst

.@HillaryClinton: This isn't the start of some broader diplomatic opening with Iran. #HillaryOnIran pic.twitter.com/OuZIhDXzEb
Retweeted by Shaaib

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
24. Hillary's providing a strong argument on how US can back #IranDeal and continue to support Israel,
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:47 AM
Sep 2015



Aileen Laing @GlzgowlassLaing

#HillaryOnIran @MSNBC Hey how about letting us hear what Hillary has to say instead of cutting away to mischaracterize her speech!

1m
Mandy Slutsker @Mandy4Action

Hillary's providing a strong argument on how US can back #IranDeal and continue to support Israel, only democracy in region #HillaryOnIran

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
42. It could have been a brilliant speech had she curbed her tendency to rewrite her role
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:57 PM
Sep 2015

She began the speech with the history of how we got here. HRC speaks of how Bush/Cheney left office with Iran well on their way to a nuclear bomb. She then speaks of how she and Obama chose a two prong approach - fighting for international sanctions while speaking of the door being open to talk. She does an excellent job speaking of her work, which she did, getting countries on board - though she fails to credit that the P5 pushed this too.

ver, she then spoke of the start of the negotiated effort -- and while her speech flowed beautifully, I have some real problems. She did have a very important early role in this, but here she exaggerates it. First, she ignores that there was a long term multinational effort that the US had not joined. Then, in speaking of the secret bilateral talks, she speaks only of going herself to Oman twice to set up the back channel - ignoring that the first step was that Obama, wanting a back channel sent John Kerry, then in the Senate' HRC's trips followed.

She then says two aides of hers, William Burns and Jake Sullivan started secret talks, which became more serious in 2013 and that they led to the interim agreement -- and then there were the multinational negotiations led by Kerry, Moniz and Sherman. It is true, that these men led the secret talks. The first were while HRC was SoS and they went nowhere. In 2013 when Rouhani was elected, they started again. Sullivan was then working for Biden. (Burns was career State Department). These talks led to the US entering the multinational talks. (note the slight of hand in HRC's words - bilateral leads to interim agreement leads to multinational.

This is at least meant to distort who was responsible for the interim agreement as anyone just listening would credit HRC, Burns, and Sullivan for the interim agreement. In fact, that was a multinational effort itself, where Kerry and Sherman led for the US. Here is one of the contemporary articles on the Geneva negotiations that resulted in the Iran deal ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kerry-in-geneva-raising-hopes-for-historic-nuclear-deal-with-iran/2013/11/23/53e7bfe6-5430-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html )

At this point -- I stopped watching. I was furious, but not surprised. I read HRC's book and saw that she did the same thing repeatedly - taking the credit the rest of the world gave Kerry in 2009 when he persuaded Kharzi to follow election laws, and strangely taking credit for advising Obama to agree to the chemical weapons deal -- while crediting Kerry only with a gaffe.

YES, YES, I know that I am a John Kerry supporter - a regular on the DU John Kerry site, but I really don't get why Hillary Clinton seems to always go out of her way not just to take credit for the very real things she does, but to usurp credit from others. This could actually be a great story of everyone working together -- Obama and his two Secretaries of State -- and it could be what actually happened! In contrast, both President Obama and Secretary Kerry have long been known to share credit graciously with others. In fact, both had long lists of people - from the US and elsewhere - for this deal. It did not diminish the role either played.

I KNOW that this is a nit detail in Clinton's speech, but it reminds me why I have lost respect for her -- even as here - when she can be impressive.

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
26. This isn't a nominee I'm watching, this is a President #hillaryoniran #IranDeal
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:57 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary coming across as strong, knowledgeable caring ---cool calm and collected--very Presidential.




Fredric #Hillary2016 @MrTelephoneMan3

This isn't a nominee I'm watching, this is a President #hillaryoniran #IranDeal

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Tamara Cofman Wittes @tcwittes

#HillaryOnIran speaks to fears &anxieties of Israelis, I'd invite the Israeli pm to WH my 1st month in office for close constant consult
Retweeted by Sina Aboutalebi

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. if she's president, I have no doubt that hawk Hillary will get us into a war
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

She's an interventionist through and through

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
31. BTW--Barb Boxer is on cspan right now--saying basically the same as Hillary did--
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:43 AM
Sep 2015

How the US will stick by and defend Israel. No options off table to prevent Iran from nuclear bomb.

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
29. OH MYGAWD "Republican histamines are all over"--Hill said she is suffering
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:00 AM
Sep 2015

from a large allergy attach. I cracked up--it was spontaneous after she cleared her throat (she is very hoarse)

riversedge

(70,195 posts)
32. The GOP's Dangerous Iran Antics...
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:48 AM
Sep 2015



https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/09/08/dangerous-gop-iran-antics/



The Briefing


Factsheets
The GOP’s Dangerous Iran Antics

Hillary Clinton has a comprehensive strategy for vigorously enforcing the Iran deal, cracking down on Iran’s nefarious regional behavior and protecting Israel. As she has made clear, this deal is not perfect, but it is far and away the best option we have to block Iran from getting a nuclear weapon—something we will never permit.

In lieu of a viable alternative to the deal, top Republicans candidates have largely resorted to dangerous gamesmanship. They have used unacceptable rhetoric, worked to undercut the administration’s diplomatic efforts and distorted reality in an attempt to make the deal less palatable. Take a look:

Inflammatory Rhetoric


Jeb Bush: “This isn’t diplomacy—it is appeasement.”

Ben Carson accused President Obama of “employing standard anti-Semitic themes” to defend the Iran deal.

Chris Christie said that President Obama and Hillary Clinton are now “responsible for any deaths” caused by Iran.

Ted Cruz: “If this deal is consummated, the Obama Administration will become the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorists.”

Donald Trump: “It’s going to lead to destruction in large portions of the world.”

Scott Walker: “It’s very possible—God forbid, but it’s very possible that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office.”

Attempts to Undermine Diplomacy.......

procon

(15,805 posts)
34. I'm very disappointed to see the hawkish return of Hillary the neocon.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:21 AM
Sep 2015

Last time, one of the primary reasons she lost my vote (and many others) was because she not only voted for the Iraq War, but remained unrepentant, and even joined the neocons in the Bush Administration who were continually agitating for more war and promoting bigger military solutions to political and socio-economic problems.

I don't see the political advantage to doubling down and telling voters that if they elect her as president, she will allow Israel to obtain F-35 fighter jets and escalate the threat of increased military interventionism in the Middle East. Evidently she's learned nothing in all this time, but it's one thing for the neocons in the Republican Party to promote endless war; it is quite another thing altogether for the Democratic front-runner for President in 2016 to believe the same bullshit.

procon

(15,805 posts)
39. Don't assume I'm supporting Sanders anymore than Clinton at this time.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:45 PM
Sep 2015

If and when Sanders takes up the neocon's cause celebre, I'll be just as critical because promoting the escalation of war should not be on any Democrat's To Do List, yeah? It's precisely because of these disturbing revelations by the candidates, I intend to remain deliberately unaligned until my state's primary.

procon

(15,805 posts)
41. Nor is he a Republican, however,
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

he has chosen to seek the Democratic Party's nomination in 2016, so let's not pretend this is the issue at hand.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
38. I thought that she did an excellent job.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:11 PM
Sep 2015

Now, I would like her to try to persuade Schumer and Cardin (my Senator ) to support the deal. She covered every possible one of their concerns and more, IMO - even to an extent that I wished that she hadn't, although I understand the necessity, both at home and abroad, for such tough rhetoric.

Menendez the crook should be ousted in any event. Manchin has, IMO, mostly been a lost cause DINO for a long time.

As Dems, none of these have any possible justification for being anti - other than having divided loyalties about Israel's concerns. That should disqualify them from serving in the US Senate.

I hope that Cardin realizes that his nasty new BFFs (AIPAC, Netanyahu and the warmongering neocons) will vote for ANY GOPer over him in 2018. They were never his base and his giving in to them now will earn him no clout with them unless he changes party altogether.

He has lost me and many loyal Dems like me who are his base. So I truly hope that we have a good and successful primary challenger against him.

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