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askew

(1,464 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:06 PM Sep 2015

2 Vice Chairs of DNC Call For More Debates

2 Vice Chairs of DNC are publicly calling for more debates:

From their Facebook statement:

Why DNC Vice-Chairs Tulsi Gabbard and R.T. Rybak believe we should have more debates:
We believe that the DNC’s decision to limit Presidential candidates to six debates, with a threat of exclusion for any candidate who participates in any non-DNC sanctioned debate, is a mistake. It limits the ability of the American people to benefit from a strong, transparent, vigorous debate between our Presidential candidates, as they make the important decision of who will be our Democratic Presidential nominee.

As vice chairs of the Democratic National Committee, we are calling for several more debates than the six currently scheduled, and withdrawing the proposed sanctions against candidates who choose to participate in non-DNC sanctioned debates. We also encourage the DNC to consider additional ways to jointly showcase our candidates across the country.
We are the party that represents democratic principles, openness and transparency, and ensuring that all people, regardless of who they are or where they are from, have a level playing field and equal opportunity.

By limiting Democratic debates to just six, more people will feel excluded from our political process, rather than included. As Democrats, we believe the more people are engaged in the process and the exchange of ideas, the better off we are as a nation.
- Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard & R.T. Rybak


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2 Vice Chairs of DNC Call For More Debates (Original Post) askew Sep 2015 OP
The fact that it even needs to be say.... daleanime Sep 2015 #1
Excellent! Now get a move on, we're burning daylight and times a wasting! appalachiablue Sep 2015 #2
"The Deal" will be front and center. oasis Sep 2015 #3
No she won't. askew Sep 2015 #6
Which Dem candidate knows more about "the Deal" and Iran, than she? oasis Sep 2015 #9
Yeah, she did kick Obama's butt in the debates mccallen Sep 2015 #7
Will issues of 2008 be debated? oasis Sep 2015 #10
What about current issues? mccallen Sep 2015 #11
2008 because you mentioned the Obama debates. But you seem to oasis Sep 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author oasis Sep 2015 #16
I would love for her to explain her Iraq vote. Strength? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #28
"The Deal" she cut the balls off with her Cheneyesque narrative today? frylock Sep 2015 #18
Then why isn't Clinton demanding more debates? jeff47 Sep 2015 #23
She's not screaming, but she is open to more debates. I appreciate that. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #26
"Open to" is dumb if debates would secure the nomination. jeff47 Sep 2015 #27
Why isn't she demanding more debates? That would confirn oasis Sep 2015 #29
Uh...that would actually hurt the "controls the DNC" story. jeff47 Sep 2015 #30
Well, you asked the question in Post #23. oasis Sep 2015 #31
Are you actually thinking this through or just mindlessly opposing. jeff47 Sep 2015 #32
then let me be plain. Hillary is running her campaign, her way. oasis Sep 2015 #33
Nope, still not making sense. jeff47 Sep 2015 #34
Picture this: If Hill told the DNC "Hey! I want MORE debates". oasis Sep 2015 #35
K&R CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #4
After hearing Bernie today on the Senate floor bkkyosemite Sep 2015 #5
+1 appalachiablue Sep 2015 #8
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #12
Must be feeling it in the organization's coffers. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #13
The ball is in your court, Debbie Waterboy. frylock Sep 2015 #17
Perhaps Left Coast2020 Sep 2015 #21
I'll need a couple of espressos to get through a Hillary debate. jalan48 Sep 2015 #19
Are they crazy? We were told 6 are more than enough whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #20
Those traitors, don't they know we are suppose to fall in line davidpdx Sep 2015 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #24
An article from MSNBC.com: Raine1967 Sep 2015 #25

oasis

(49,376 posts)
3. "The Deal" will be front and center.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:17 PM
Sep 2015

Be careful what you wish for,#2, 3,4 and 5, because Hillary will take you to school on that subject.

askew

(1,464 posts)
6. No she won't.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:33 PM
Sep 2015

Her debate skills are overrated. Obama was beating her quite easily by the end of the debate schedule. The SC one was in particular brutal for Hillary.

 

mccallen

(24 posts)
11. What about current issues?
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:41 PM
Sep 2015

Like her big foreign policy speech. I was awed by her strength. I can't wait to see her humiliate Bernie!

Response to mccallen (Reply #11)

Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #15)

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. Then why isn't Clinton demanding more debates?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:50 AM
Sep 2015

If she'd totally put away all challengers, why isn't she screaming for more debates?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
26. She's not screaming, but she is open to more debates. I appreciate that.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:39 PM
Sep 2015
"I debated a lot in 2008 and I would certainly be there with lots of enthusiasm and energy if (the DNC) decide to add more debates," Clinton said during a press conference in Portsmouth. "And I think that's the message a lot of people are sending their way."

The comment is a departure from what Clinton has said about debates in the past. When asked by reporters in August about the debate schedule, Clinton said she would not comment on scheduling.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/06/politics/hillary-clinton-debates-dnc/

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
27. "Open to" is dumb if debates would secure the nomination.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:53 PM
Sep 2015

Instead of merely being "open to", she should be demanding them. Because if you're right, it would be the end of the primary campaign and she could save resources for the general.

"I will not refuse more debates" is nowhere near that.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
29. Why isn't she demanding more debates? That would confirn
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015

the anti-Hill obsessive belief "Hillary controls the DNC". Hill's not about to get tangled up in foolish conspiracies. She'll remain aloof on the subject of debates

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. Uh...that would actually hurt the "controls the DNC" story.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:39 PM
Sep 2015

Because Clinton would be asking for them and the DNC would be saying "no".

oasis

(49,376 posts)
31. Well, you asked the question in Post #23.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:51 PM
Sep 2015

If you think the answer to a demand for more debates would be "no". Makes no sense for Hillary to ask then.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
32. Are you actually thinking this through or just mindlessly opposing.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:17 PM
Sep 2015

Poster before me: Clinton would win the debates!
Me: If that's true, why isn't she asking for more? Winning would more-or-less end the primary.
You: If she asked for more, that would confirm she controls the DNC!!
Me: Why would asking for more confirm she controls the DNC? And wouldn't the DNC telling her "no" demonstrate she does not?
You: If they would say no, it makes no sense to ask!

You aren't making much sense. Would you like to try again?

oasis

(49,376 posts)
33. then let me be plain. Hillary is running her campaign, her way.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:29 PM
Sep 2015

That's why she said she's "open" to more debates. She's not upset with the current number like so many here are. I suspect that she would rather be raising money for the general election with her valuable time.

Whatever the number of debates, Hillary would do well, given her broad range of knowledge on all issues.

Hope that makes sense.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
34. Nope, still not making sense.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sep 2015
She's not upset with the current number like so many here are. I suspect that she would rather be raising money for the general election with her valuable time.

You know what would free up the most time? Not having to worry about the primary anymore. Especially since any money she does not spend in the primary can be "rolled over" into the general election.

The other poster's claim was Clinton would destroy everyone in debates. Which you agree with. So having one now would mean she actually could focus on raising money for the general election.

You also don't like the assertion that the DNC is limiting debates to help Clinton. Clinton disagreeing with the DNC by asking for more debates would demonstrate that she is not "in control of the DNC".

What of that is wrong?

oasis

(49,376 posts)
35. Picture this: If Hill told the DNC "Hey! I want MORE debates".
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:47 PM
Sep 2015

IF the DNC then said, "okay Hillary" and scheduled more debates, what would that indicate to you.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. The ball is in your court, Debbie Waterboy.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:30 AM
Sep 2015

I really don't think she cares that people know she's in the tank for Hillary.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
21. Perhaps
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 01:28 AM
Sep 2015

But we should still keep the heat on her for more debates. Keep her phone ringing all day on this.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. Those traitors, don't they know we are suppose to fall in line
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:44 AM
Sep 2015

Six debates: two went automatically to the first two contests who have by default always gone first. The other four seemed to pander to specific states as well. Only one of the five is west of the Mississippi. Good job DWS!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
25. An article from MSNBC.com:
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:35 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/calls-mount-changes-democratic-debate-process

After reading what she said in this link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141204145

“Every candidate does what they believe they need to to attract attention to their campaign,”Wasserman Schultz told reporters after a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. “He has chosen to focus on debates, rather than substance. That is certainly his prerogative.”
Here's the thing., some candidates believe that more debates are exactly what they need (and/or want) to attract attention tho their campaigns.

DWS is actually hurting campaigns.

She is trying to dictate how people should be campaigning, and that is troublesome.

HRC said she was open to more debates, so what is going on with DWS? http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/06/politics/hillary-clinton-debates-dnc/
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