2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDebbie Wasserman Schulz won't budge on limited debates, punishing anyone who
breaks her "rules".
Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultzs own party leaders have accused her of being undemocratic and rigging the presidential primary debate schedule to help Hillary Rodham Clinton, but she is standing firm on her decision to strictly limit the number of presidential debates AND ADDED that she wants to punish any candidate who debates outside the six debates.
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silverweb
(16,402 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)How undemocratic, but from her not unexpected. The Third Way has been pulling that shit in Florida for a while.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)and then tell her to fuck herself and go debate anyone and everyone running who wants to do so after that.
Sorry for the language, but she pisses me off.
Kenjie
(122 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)her ridiculous control needs to be broken.
undemocratic gop poser.
Kenjie
(122 posts)being uninvited from future DNC debates if a candidate takes part in an unsanctioned event. Then she says that there will be forums that are not in debate format. It would have been nice to have her answer the obvious follow-up questions. Why is she so allergic to the idea of more than six debates and why do they have to be DNC only?
Maybe it is time that some of the candidates got together and organized debates? They can reach out to groups that want their issues addressed and get a much better series of debates. I'm sure the media would show up because of the theater of it all and it would give exposure to candidates that are being silenced by DWS.
Her job is to get Democrats elected but she sure does invent some interesting ways of working counter to that goal.
Freelancer
(2,107 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)give the candidates questions in advance, not allow a REAL debate forum because most of the morons running for the presidency can't think on their feet -- basically, you can blame the Democrats AND the Republicans for taking it out of the hands of the LWVs several years ago. It was all about control.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Eeyup!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Stumps for Repukes, shills for Clinton. Jesus, what a fucking trainwreck.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I would be courting her to replace Prince Rebus or w/e his name is for new RNC chair.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Hillary. If you can't get your message out traveling around the country how is a debate going to help you?
You get six shots at Hillary in front of whoever is tuned in. How many do you need? If you can't do it in six how are you going to do it in more?
Why does Hillary have more name recognition? Because she put in the time. First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the United States, Senator from New York, Presidential candidate and Secretary of State. She got name recognition the hard way, she earned it.
No number of debates will give any other candidate those bonafidies.
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)Well, if that's what is important here, then the Donald's a shoe-in.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)informal
documentary evidence showing a person's legitimacy; credentials.
plural noun: bona fides; plural noun: bonafides
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)...cause that had pretty much everything to do with my point.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)...but you tried to make the point that Hillary has all this name recognition, because she earned all of it, and really, that's fine, she did.
The point I was making is, who cares about name recognition? How is that relevant to her being a great candidate/president? (And I'm not arguing her qualifications here--I think she's qualified enough--she's just never been my first choice.) It helps her in early polling, and providing we are able to witness healthy discourse, that's about it. She's going to have to bring a lot more to the table during the campaign. Again, I'm not arguing that she won't, just that to focus on name recognition as being the "bonafied credential" that she "earned" seems a trivial qualification to base a case on.
The debates are for discussing issues. Last time around we had about 17 before the primaries even started, now I think there are only 4 before the end of the year. You may not need more debates, to make a decision, but many people do, especially the independents and undecideds who really decide elections. The republicans are having debates like crazy. (And yes, feel free to interpret the "crazy" how ever you wish.) The general public is getting a chance to see these candidates over and over. They lead all the news stories for weeks afterwards.
This isn't just bad for the individual candidates (besides maybe Hillary), it's bad for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd venture to say the entire democratic process.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)that tail on for weeks.
DWS is an idiot in search of her village.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)They are afraid to debate him, period. They don't want his message getting out, period.
This is damage control by DWS.
PoutrageFatigue
(416 posts)...not who she WANTS to be working for...
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)may be for limiting the debates!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)President Obama should jerk this up short.
Uncle Joe
(58,112 posts)she's bankrupt.
Thanks for the thread, Lorien.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)That POS will continiue to be an albatross around Hillary's neck. They are now equally identified with the stale, moldy wing of the Democratic party. When people like Debbie are expunged from the party, some of us may consider re-establishing our membership.