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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:14 PM Sep 2015

Is there no one in the Obama administration or Clinton campaign who understands the phrase

"Appearance of impropriety"?

Fuck me to tears... so now there's an Email/Transparency CZAR who will be instrumental in handling The Clinton Mess for The State Department and that only two months ago made the maximum individual donation to Hillary Clinton's campaign.

God damn but George Carlin had it right when he said "It's a Big Club, and you ain't in it".

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Is there no one in the Obama administration or Clinton campaign who understands the phrase (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 OP
From what I read, they didn't vet her first. Didn't know TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #1
The GOP will double down on challenges to the State Dept. & this whole nightmare Divernan Sep 2015 #3
They should have chosen someone else as soon as it was known. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #6
The worst part for me is that the State Department spokeshole can stand in front of cameras and say cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #9
I like John Kirby, but he's in an uncomfortable position here. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #10
They knew her from her years of work including cleaning up a mess with issuing VISAs karynnj Sep 2015 #8
She should have known not to even allow herself to be considered. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #11
I agree which is why I have no sympathy for her karynnj Sep 2015 #12
Damn right we're not... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #2
Just like Holder, lawyer for Wall Street banksters hifiguy Sep 2015 #45
Umnderstands? Probably. Gives a shit? Definitely not! tularetom Sep 2015 #4
...^ that 840high Sep 2015 #36
Perception matters. Already 57% of Americans think she's dishonest and untrustworthy. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #5
And her favorables are 40-53 jfern Sep 2015 #7
They have shown they don't care any more. Arne Duncan. Don Siegelman. Eric Holder. Doctor_J Sep 2015 #13
They don't have to care. zeemike Sep 2015 #17
Bingo! n/t ReRe Sep 2015 #22
Don Siegelman? truebluegreen Sep 2015 #21
Debbie. 840high Sep 2015 #39
And they sacked one of the good ones... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #44
I didn't even hear about this... SoapBox Sep 2015 #14
Of course you're not in it, if you were in it.... daleanime Sep 2015 #15
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Sep 2015 #16
She must be guilty of something, right? MrScorpio Sep 2015 #18
Yeah you're right... there's no appearance of impropriety when the person hand-picked by cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #23
People are entitled to their personal lives, only the suspicious want to deny that. In my town.... George II Sep 2015 #28
Well you have one thing right... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #30
And you have the dismissiveness routine down pat, too. George II Sep 2015 #34
ZING....ha ha ha! artislife Sep 2015 #37
i did not have sex with that woman restorefreedom Sep 2015 #19
Wow, you sound like Ann Coulter now. So proud of you. bettyellen Sep 2015 #47
hypocrisy knows no party lines restorefreedom Sep 2015 #48
and sex scandals are for RWNJs. we don't need more Fox news bullshit at DU, it serves no one. bettyellen Sep 2015 #49
No matter how honest she is about how she handles jwirr Sep 2015 #20
And the beat goes on..................what's your point? George II Sep 2015 #24
Apparently you don't understand the phrase either, or the context in which it was once used. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #25
I understand the phrase very well, you haven't articulated your point, however. George II Sep 2015 #26
It's a point that articulates itself to anyone who doesn't wear blinders or have tunnel vision. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #27
I don't wear blinders or have tunnel vision, but your veiled accusation (and motive) IS evident. George II Sep 2015 #31
Too funny. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #33
Just ask yourself if the person had donated that much to Trump.... artislife Sep 2015 #38
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #46
Yep shenmue Sep 2015 #35
Telling the truth about H. Clinton isn't smearing. She is clearly a friend of the billionaires. She rhett o rick Sep 2015 #42
If this were happening to the Bush administration, every DUer would have a belly full of popcorn. arcane1 Sep 2015 #29
geez vadermike Sep 2015 #32
I seriously doubt that the Clinton campaign was consulted on this hire Freddie Stubbs Sep 2015 #40
When your campaign co-chair runs the DNC AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #41
I'm sure its just a crazy coincidence. 99Forever Sep 2015 #43

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. From what I read, they didn't vet her first. Didn't know
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:16 PM
Sep 2015

she was a huge Clinton fan, and she must not have volunteered it. It looks bad. The ultimate conflict of interest.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
3. The GOP will double down on challenges to the State Dept. & this whole nightmare
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:19 PM
Sep 2015

will be dragged out even longer and messier.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
6. They should have chosen someone else as soon as it was known.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:25 PM
Sep 2015

The State Dept. must have had a bunch of people to choose from...why THIS one lady? If I gave $2700.00 to someone (which is a lot of money, unless you're Trump), I'd sure want to make sure that person wins an election, yes?

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
8. They knew her from her years of work including cleaning up a mess with issuing VISAs
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:40 PM
Sep 2015

Clearly she SHOULD have had the presence of mind to volunteer the information. It is entirely likely that the donation was not even public when they were vetting her, interviewing her or offering her the job.

At this point, they should ask her to withdraw and find someone else quickly.

It sounds from the descriptions that she has a long, solid record in the State Department. I doubt anyone thought to ask - have you donated to a 2016 candidate. She, however should have immediately seen that this would present a problem.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
12. I agree which is why I have no sympathy for her
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:35 PM
Sep 2015

The SD should fire her even though it might harm their effort to fix the problem long term.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
45. Just like Holder, lawyer for Wall Street banksters
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

being appointed AG, then returning to his firm to defend Wall Street banksters, after failing to prosecute even ONE major bankster.

Move on, nothing to see here.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
13. They have shown they don't care any more. Arne Duncan. Don Siegelman. Eric Holder.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:46 PM
Sep 2015

the whole DLC cabinet.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
17. They don't have to care.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:05 PM
Sep 2015

Because we have just accepted it as normal.
We have been conditioned like Pavlov's dogs.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
18. She must be guilty of something, right?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:10 PM
Sep 2015

Too bad the Justice Department doesn't operate on the premise of that, if someone looks guilty then they must be guilty of something.

Turns out that those are rules whenever someone named Clinton is involved.

Witch hunts, baby! It's all politics.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
23. Yeah you're right... there's no appearance of impropriety when the person hand-picked by
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:31 PM
Sep 2015

the State Department to handle the way Clinton's emails are meted out to the public is not only a donor, but donated the maximum individual amount to her campaign.

TwilightGardener put it best; (paraphrasing here) "ya think she donated because she wanted Hillary Clinton to lose?"

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. People are entitled to their personal lives, only the suspicious want to deny that. In my town....
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:41 PM
Sep 2015

.....the outgoing mayor contributed to the candidate from the OPPOSITE party (against his fellow-party candidate) and then campaigned vigorously against the opposite party candidate.

Quite honestly, who gives a rat's ass who he contributed to?????????

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
30. Well you have one thing right...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:43 PM
Sep 2015
I don't give a rat's ass who your small town mayor contributed to.

Nicely put.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. i did not have sex with that woman
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:10 PM
Sep 2015

sorry couldnt resist.

there seem to be parallels, albeit not sexual ones

sad.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
20. No matter how honest she is about how she handles
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:12 PM
Sep 2015

this the Rs are NEVER going to let it go and they are NEVER going to quit using it against her.

This whole mess is just one insane thing after another.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. And the beat goes on..................what's your point?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:32 PM
Sep 2015

Is this another attempt at smearing Clinton (and Obama as collateral damage) in favor of promoting the Sanders candidacy?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
38. Just ask yourself if the person had donated that much to Trump....
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:18 AM
Sep 2015

would you consider it an issue?

If not, then you live in a very wonderful world, indeed.

Response to George II (Reply #26)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
42. Telling the truth about H. Clinton isn't smearing. She is clearly a friend of the billionaires. She
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:57 PM
Sep 2015

admits that. She admitted she made a mistake with her Iraq vote and also a mistake re. her emails. Those are not smears.

You are choosing the candidate that is supported by the 1%. Why? Do you believe in trickle-down or what? Do you believe the wealthy are destine to rule? Hey, do you believe in democracy?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
29. If this were happening to the Bush administration, every DUer would have a belly full of popcorn.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:42 PM
Sep 2015

Of course, that would never happen, because the Democrats couldn't be bothered to go after shit the Bush administration actually did.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
32. geez
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:46 PM
Sep 2015

We now have all of the GOPers leading her outright or tying her at best .. my prediction; she drops out right after super tuesday if not before.. I mean the Cnn poll .. Carson is slaughtering her.. my god.. we are so fucked

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
40. I seriously doubt that the Clinton campaign was consulted on this hire
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:11 PM
Sep 2015

At best this was just sloppiness on the part of the State Department.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
43. I'm sure its just a crazy coincidence.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 07:27 PM
Sep 2015

I mean what are the odds of someone trying to cover up for a Clinton misdeed?




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