Hillary will win the nomination and will win the GE.

[boston bean]

She will be the first woman President of the United States.

She will be one of the best Presidents.

[mccallen]

1. Shes the best and will outshine everyone

Be talked about for years. What a glorious day it will be.

[boston bean]

2. Welcome McCallen! Yes it will be a GLORIOUS DAY!

Some may be weeping. But I'll be rejoicing! Although, I might shed a couple of tears of joy and pride!

[RobertEarl]

18. Republicans will defeat her

She doesn't inspire people like Bernie does. If she hadn't voted to invade Iraq, she might have won in 2008.

Our best hope for a woman president is Warren. Hopefully, Bernie will have her as his VP.

[Puzzledtraveller]

30. Her likability outside circles such as these

and with people who take early polls plummets. Middle America, etc.. will vote for Trump against HC if he was the nom. Not to mention the one thing people on both side have in common is they do not want another Bush or a Clinton.

[RobertEarl]

36. Indeed: History

The rage she inspires from our enemies would be too much.

They are hoping she is our nominee. They fear Bernie and the fact that the largest segment of likely voters -independents- will flock to Bernie and vote for him.

[840high]

78. Exactly - I'm one of those people.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. It's a done deal...Bernie & Elizabeth in 2016!

[cascadiance]

85. Ann Coulter may be a b*tch, but she's not stupid...

She knows who is a bigger threat to beat the Republicans in 2016. Too bad too many Democrats here don't see that part of the equation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=211&v=C0BKkb2gtw8

[FloridaBlues]

96. It will be a great start for America !!

Go Madame Preident 2016!!

[jkbRN]

3. Is this supposed to be a topic for discussion about the primaries?

it doesn't seem like it.

[boston bean]

4. Is Hillary campaigning in the primaries? I think so...

[jkbRN]

6. Discussion: the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision

all I see is a stated opinion that leaves absolutely no room for discussion.

[boston bean]

8. stating an opinion isn't an action. ok... you certainly seem to be doing ok

having a discussion with me in this thread, no?

[jkbRN]

13. We are not having a discussion about the topic.

Which is the whole point of posting in a discussion thread regarding the primaries.

[boston bean]

22. Well, that's not my fault is it? nt

[riversedge]

11. How about you discuss the opinion. Lots of opinions get discussion on GD-P.

[jkbRN]

14. Post should be in HRC group.

alright, I think the opinion was made by an HRC fan that isn't open to discussion--her statement has already determined who will win the primary.

Moreover, if anyone were to disagree, they would in fact be harped on by HRC fans.

We could, however, discuss these new poll results;
Article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/11/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0RB2BG20150911

Results: http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TR131/type/smallest/filters/PARTY_ID_:1/dates/20150808-20150911/collapsed/false

[Warren DeMontague]

51. "GO TEAM" is not an opinion.

What's the counterpoint? Don't go team?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. Well, technically Hillary is campaigning in the primaries...but, judging by her polling results...sure doesn't seem like it.

Go Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[randys1]

5. While I prefer Bernie, I will celebrate if Hillary is the nominee and winner, but I have bad news 4U

The right, the teaparty, GOP , MSM and many FAKE Bernie fans are working day and night to destroy Hillary and make sure a right winger is president.


I say fake Bernie fans because no true fan of the wildly liberal, like me, Bernie Sanders, nobody who knows who Bernie REALLY is, would ever support actions that could result in a con in the WH.

And while I wouldnt have believed it in the past, the non story about email (wouldnt last to the evening news if it broke in the morning if it was about any other human being alive) might bring her down all the way.

And if she is not the nominee and Bernie is and the GOP then changes gears to viciously attack him for being a commie socialist (I am a real Democratic Socialist, like Bernie, so I am talking about how the assholes will frame it) he could very well lose.

And we all lose.

[Jamaal510]

43. +1

[riversedge]

7. Love your post. Thanks.

[boston bean]

10. You're welcome!

[roguevalley]

32. Good luck with your wish and best wishes for your happiness, Boston Bean. :D

I will vote for Bernie because I'm a n FDR dem and he meets that level of issues with me. However, I hold ill will to no one. Only time will tell. Have a great weekend, honey.

[Dawgs]

9. She won't win the GE. n/t

[boston bean]

12. That's a tad bit defeatist, isn't it?

[HooptieWagon]

38. She's polling behind several republicans.

She's not even a lock to win the nomination, and I doubt she can win the GE. And I don't think she'd be a very good President.

[Lil Missy]

15. She will - and not because she's a woman - she'll win because she is the best qualified. n/t

[boston bean]

20. Neither did I say I would vote for her because she is a woman. But it's

on big gigantic in the plus column for me!

[Lil Missy]

105. Agreed!

[morningfog]

16. Rah rah! Fizzle...

Silly post, devoid of substance.

[Gothmog]

17. I agree with your analysis

[tularetom]

35. I didn't see any analysis

All I saw was a statement of opinion with no facts to back it up.

[LondonReign2]

40. Analysis?

[frylock]

98. Insightful as it was.

[krm27]

19. Sexist...choosing a candidate based on gender rather than substantive issues is wrong

That's all.

[boston bean]

21. Who said that?

[m-lekktor]

28. yeah, the song "I am woman" has NOTHING to do with gender.

[boston bean]

41. Is there something wrong with the song?

Hillary is a woman and she will be the first woman president. Thought it was quite meaningful.

[SouthernProgressive]

62. It's not wrong or sexist.

Looking forward to the follow up reverse sexism argument.

[frylock]

23. And that football team in DC is going to win the Super Bowl.

[oasis]

24. It'll be a proud day for all Americans when she takes the oath.

[stonecutter357]

25. K&R!

[HereSince1628]

26. Back in February I was thinking a dem victory was going to be all but impossible.

History since Truman has few examples of a party holding the presidency for 3 terms.

But things are so off the wall over in the GOP I think democrats really have a chance. I don't know if that possibility is really limited to just Clinton. I think Biden, OMalley and Sanders (listed alphabetically) all could have shots

[Puzzledtraveller]

27. Wow, I want a time machine too!!!

[Exultant Democracy]

54. Picture if you will the year 2007...

[ibegurpard]

29. if she wins the primary

I really really hope you're not disappointed.

[Dawson Leery]

31. kick

[tularetom]

33. If she wins, and I doubt she will, she'll have us in a war in Iran within a year

This thread is nothing more than irrational hero worship. You offer no reasons why she will win and nothing at all to justify your statement that "she will be one of the best presidents".

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But a fact or two might be nice.

[HooptieWagon]

39. I agree. War within a year.

She's dying to drop bombs and send the troops in.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

83. War with Iran within a year?...Don't think it'll take her THAT long! Hillary has never seen a war she didnt wanna join.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[DonCoquixote]

34. the truth

"Hillary will win the nomination "

Likely

"and will win the GE."

Hopeful, but more because the GOP clown car will explode, but never underestimate Money and Fox News, not the stupidity of those Reagan Democrats Hillary is catering to.

"She will be one of the best Presidents. "

the person who supports the tpp, Keystone XL and war with Iran will NOT be a good president, period. Whatever good that occurs will occur the same way we forced Obama to evolve. She will need pressure from the left from the first second to be worth a damn.

[el_bryanto]

37. She might well I just hope people aren't surprised when she governs from the center right. nt

[LondonReign2]

42. Surpirsed? That is what they are hoping for

[el_bryanto]

55. That's what her supporters in big business are hoping for; I think posters at DU

believe that she will govern as a liberal.

Bryant

[LondonReign2]

57. I respectfully disagree

Her supporters here couldn't be more clear about their low opinion of liberals. They detest Bernie's policy ideas and I think they'd be gravely disappointed if Hillary governed as a liberal.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

84. Thought I heard Hillary braggin the otha day about her being sucha moderate and getting along with Rethugs. Wata joke...Go Bernie!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[restorefreedom]

44. good thing all it takes to win

is passionate declarative statements from supporters

no reason to worry about pesky stuff like policy

i am glad that people believe in their candidates, though

[Thinkingabout]

45. Hillary has knowledge and the ability to be president, she will be an excellent president.

[PowerToThePeople]

46. And I will become a refugee.

Nice fiction you have there. I hope it never becomes reality.

[hifiguy]

47. Enjoy the boots-on-the-ground shooting war

she will certainly give the country within 12 months of taking the oath of office.

Princess Celestia, the FSM and the IPU save us from such a fate.

[Warren DeMontague]

49. You just don't like women.

Fess up, testosterone-head.

[Warren DeMontague]

48. I think we will see a Woman President pretty soon. It might even be Hillary.

But not if she keeps running the absolutely craptastic campaign she has so far.

[arcane1]

77. You mean the conscious, deliberate effort to appear spontaneous and like-able?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

89. Well, you gotta admit, Hillary's delivery and persona have improved since she started poll-testing how to appear more authentic, spontaneous and warm on the campaign trail.

[SouthernProgressive]

50. Don't think you are going out on a limb here.

Love the confidence. I share it with you. She is doing a great job. Other than O'Malley, she really stands out as understanding what is needed and showing she has the gravitas to get it done.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. Gravitas? Really?

Last edited Fri Sep 11, 2015, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

You mean snapchat jokes and "what, with a cloth"?



Or the reboot, the rollout of the planned spontenaiety?

Perhaps you mean dancing the nae nae.

(edited: Image changed to Washington Post)

[SouthernProgressive]

59. I meant what I said.

And it's in really bad taste what you are doing. I'm quickly realizing it is acceptable here to make women's looks the issue. Pretty low. Have fun.

[Warren DeMontague]

64. you said she had gravitas. It's not how she looks, it's how she handled that exchange.

"what, with a cloth?" was not "gravitas" and it was not the smooth political A-gamer we've been promised.

Where's the gravitas? It hasn't been on display. Her own campaign has said they're going to try to "roll out" a new more spontaneous candidate, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz talks about the need for "retail candidates" as if the candidate is, as the Washington Post put it, a new brand of detergent.

Know what would be gravitas? Actual leadership on issues she right now won't touch with a ten foot pole, like medical marijuana- things that her constituents keep asking her about. Ditching the fucking script and poll-testing and coming out and taking bold stances that might even upset a few of her lobbyists' apple carts.

Whatever her highly paid experts are telling her "in no uncertain terms, can you ever say THAT", she should say it.

[boston bean]

61. your image is from this post in the cankles category at this site

https://cripessuzette.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/what-with-a-cloth-or-something/

nothing is surprising anymore.

[SouthernProgressive]

63. Zero difference in using that image....

And Trumps comments about one of the re pubs running. No difference at all. I guess they think it's cute.

[boston bean]

65. posting unflattering pics of democratic candidates isn't something one expects to see here.

While lambasting them.

But this is a new kind of day here on DU.

[Warren DeMontague]

67. So hit the alert button. Send an email to skinner. Start a thread.

[boston bean]

68. Why don't you just stop doing it if you feel it ought to be reported? nt

[Warren DeMontague]

70. I don't. But you obviously do.

She looked like a deer in the headlights there not because I'm a mean misogyny mans out to get her with an unflattering picture, she looked that way because she pretty clearly biffed that exchange.

And if you look at the numbers, a lot of her problems started after that.

[boston bean]

72. No, I don't, you demanded I do something. Something I never even intimated I would do or was

going to do.

Wow... this circular framing of yours leaves much to be desired.

[Warren DeMontague]

66. She handled that thing exceedingly badly. That's on her.

She looked bad during that session because she DID badly.

You think that whole thing was an example of the expert political instincts, the ability to eat attacks for breakfast like cheerios, that we've been promised?

I don't. Ed Rendell didn't.

Denial isn't helping you guys.

[boston bean]

69. I don't think it's the end of the world, nor do I find it a reason not to vote for her.

I guess you think it does and use images from a cankle site to do so.

[Warren DeMontague]

73. the image link goes to a blog called "cripes suzette"

looking at the blog I don't see anything about cankles.

(edited: Upon further inspection I found them, under the tags, although the blog post in question is about the news conference, not her appearance)

The implication you seem to be making, here, is that anyone who had a problem with the way she handled that whole exchange "what, with a cloth", must be out to get Hillary and her "cankles", or something.

Which I guess would include everyone from the Washington Post to Ed Rendell. Hell, even Hillary has acknowledged that she didn't do a stellar job that afternoon in Vegas. Is she out to get herself?

I'm not sure where I could find a site with a picture from that exchange, that would be acceptable. Here's the daily mail:



How about the Washington Post, again. They okay?



The subthread is about "gravitas". Is this gravitas?

Edited: I changed the image upthread to the Washington Post, lest anyone think I'm a big fan of "cripes suzette"

[boston bean]

80. you continue to go and search out those unflattering pics to use them to criticize

democratic candidates. Whose gonna stop you. Not me. I may comment on it though.

[Warren DeMontague]

91. It's interesting that you want to talk about me, or the pictures

Or anything except the lame way she handled that press conference, displaying anything but 'gravitas' in the process.

What was unflattering was the way she tried to handle the questions.

[boston bean]

92. I told you in another post my feelings. What more do you want?

[Warren DeMontague]

93. I want a lot of things. Don't you?

In the context of your OP, though, what i want is pretty simple- if assertion A is true, and she wins the nomination, I want assertion B - she wins the WH - to be true as well.

As such I 'want' Hillary to run a better campaign, although I don't necessarily buy that she's our strongest potential choice.

[beam me up scottie]

87. STOP PICKING ON HILLARY!!!

Your inability to find more flattering pics is proof you're a misogynist!

[Exultant Democracy]

53. Nope, Nope, Warren and HA!

[cherokeeprogressive]

56. There's NO place like home. There's NO place like home... (cue the sound of clicking heels)

[navarth]

60. D'OH!

That one left a mark.

[reddread]

58. check's in the mail, etc etc

in a pigs eye.
best of luck.

[stupidicus]

71. and then she'll climb the magic beanstalk

and bring back the golden goose

and everyone will live happily after, besides those still being victimized by the cluster bombs she loves so much...

Do you know if she loves depleted uranium as much as her husband did?

[mhatrw]

74. You must be baked.

Great. Now I'm hungry.

[erlewyne]

75. What can I do about it?

I will vote for Bernie.

Hilary is a war monger.

[William769]

76. Kick & highly recommended!

[NorthCarolina]

79. I don't think so.

[whatchamacallit]

88. Lol!

[left-of-center2012]

90. Can you also predict he winning Powerball numbers?

[MissDeeds]

94. Omg!

Hillary WILL win the primary AND the general election AND the "I am Woman" anthem. You owe me a new keyboard.

[Joe the Revelator]

95. That song is about as exciting as her campaign.

And reaches just as many young voters...

[frylock]

99. Yeah, I don't think the kids are Helen Reddy for Hillary.

[artislife]

100. *chortle nt

[Puzzledtraveller]

101. Seriously

That vibe died with bell bottoms and disco.

[Motown_Johnny]

97. Her lead is down to 8.7% and falling.

Updated today

[HERVEPA]

102. Thanks for sharing your deep insight.

[HassleCat]

103. One of the best?

She will face a hostile congress where the majority of both houses hate her. If she is willing to govern by executive order, like Obama, she will get some things done. Going to be a rough road.

[Scootaloo]

104. Is that a cheerleading raisin?

[Juicy_Bellows]

106. I was wondering and was going to ask, but you beat me to it.

Is there some significance to the image that I am unaware of or is it just supposed to be a happy cheering raspberry type thing?

EDIT - I just realized my 1000 post was this one. Oh well, I had grand plans for it but the raspberry got me!

[TheFarS1de]

108. I was thinking something else ..

[AwareOne]

107. Not bloody likely

what are the Vegas odds? Anything else is bullshit but bookies are right most of the time. I'll give you 2-1.

[phleshdef]

109. I am a Bernie supporter who isn't anti-Hillary, but I think she is running a poor campaign right now

She hasn't been very good at explaining herself or her own innocence in the cooked up "scandal" thats been going on. She hasn't done anything wrong, but she is failing at explaining that to people.

[cyberswede]

110. I agree with you first statement, not sure about the second, and disagree with the third.

But she would be better than anyone the Rs can come up with.

[Hollingsworth]

111. I don't think she will win or she deserves it just because she is a woman.

That is insulting to thinking women.

and even unthinking ones.

[eridani]

112. That will surely be a great day for TPP, more H1b visas, endless war and bankster coddling n/t

[LeftOfWest]

113. That you want Bill Clinton anywhere NEAR Public Office again

is very disappointing boston bean.

She made her choices to stay.

Go away Bill Clinton NOW.

[Vinca]

114. Her numbers are still heading in the wrong direction.

I think she'll probably be the nominee, but I'm not so sure she can win the general anymore.

[Splinter Cell]

115. Yeah.....

No.