Sanders is giving a hell of a speech on CNN right now.

[arely staircase]

Im still for Clinton. But this is good stuff.

[Go Vols]

1. Yes he is

[pinebox]

2. You should switch & I mean that

because Sanders came out with a plan to effectively ban & kill the private prison industry http://www.vox.com/2015/9/10/9299851/bernie-sanders-private-prisons which happens to be an industry in which Hillary is propped up by http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/24/1405229/-Private-Prison-Corporations-Stand-With-Hillary-Clinton
Come over to our side!

[arely staircase]

3. If he wins the nomination I will work hard for him. NT

[pinebox]

5. Good deal

I wish I could say the same about Hillary but I can't, I'll vote Green.

[artislife]

7. You may be new but

the board says once the primary season is over and we have a nominee, anyone who claims not to vote for the nominee is invited to leave. FYI.

[pinebox]

8. And then I shall

I'm sorry but I won't vote for her & I have no problem leaving Absolutely none and I'll take my integrity with me, kthxbai.
Oh and I'm actually "more used than you are". I just never posted much.
Registered Jan 10, 2013

[artislife]

9. Cool, just don't like people caught in a net

they didn't know was there!



I have a difficult time envisioning blackening out the bubble next to her name on my ballot, so I get you.

[kath]

11. Well, since I live in Red State Hell, I can leave that President bubble blank (like I did in2012)

And it won't make one damn bit of difference. my vote doesn't matter here, thanks to the ridiculously anachronistic Electoral College.

[pinebox]

12. truth

n/t

[kath]

15. It's about the only advantage there is to living in Buckle-of-the-Bible-Belt Hell

(That, and cheap real estate -cuz who in their right mind wants to live among all the conservative, bigoted, Bible thumpers?)

But even if I lived in a swing state, I doubt there is a clothespin big enough that I could put on my nose to enable me to blacken that box for HRC.

[daleanime]

13. +1

[hifiguy]

37. I'm in the opposite position.

Minnesota is sky-blue in presidential years. I will be voting my conscience next year. Hopefully I will be voting for Bernie, but if that is not an option I know that my vote won't help the Repukes.

[JDPriestly]

21. I'm with you. But don't worry. Bernie will win!

[still_one]

33. Do you think Bernie can win the general election if Hillary supporters decide to take the

same approach as those Bernie supporters who say they won't vote for the Democratic nominee if it is a specific candidate?


This ignorance of the Supreme Court, civil rights, gender rights, and so many other issues that distinguish ALL the Democratic candidates verses the republicans is astounding

The only thing holding Bernie back is the arrogance of some of his supporters.

[JDPriestly]

39. Hillary supporters will support Bernie in the general election if he wins.

Bernie has this way of winning people over.

[still_one]

43. Of course the vast majority will, but what purpose does it do for someone to go out of their way and

declare that if Hillary wins the nomination, they will absolutely refuse to vote for her in the general election?

They don't even have to comment on who they will vote for in the general election if the candidate of their liking doesn't get the nomination, but they feel compelled to express how they would never vote for Hillary in the general election, for what purpose?

To piss off Hillary supporters?

[pinebox]

51. Scroll up

I already answered above who I'd vote for.

[pinebox]

50. lol

Arrogance? Try integrity. I'll vote for a candidate who best represents ME and MY values. That isn't Hillary who's essentially a Republican in my eyes.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. I thought they were exiled....

To the Hillary group.

[SonderWoman]

10. LOL.

[pinebox]

16. Oh I know!

It's hilarious! Really it is! I mean who would have ever thought there'd be indy voters! That's new! /sarcasm

[kath]

18. Oh, yeah, it's a real laugh riot!!

[SonderWoman]

22. That's not the "hilarious" part...

"Black lives matter!, now excuse me while I help Republicans win an election and reshape SCOTUS!".

"Obama uses too many drones! Now excuse me while I help Republicans win an election and start 4 more wars!".

"Hillary has a plan to regulate Wall Street, but its not good enough! Now excuse me while I help Republicans win an election and deregulate Wall Street!".

On and on and on...

[pinebox]

23. You mean like

You mean like that whole myth how Nader made Gore lose the election?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/06/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth
or is it this one?
http://prorev.com/green2000.htm
Maybe it's this one?
http://www.salon.com/2011/04/04/third_party_myth_easterbrook/

Ahhh don't you just love me? You should. You'll learn something! <3

[SonderWoman]

24. Nope. Nothing like that.

I stated what I meant.

[demwing]

25. You're not incorrect (you said what you meant)

you're just wrong.

[SonderWoman]

26. Wrong about what? That voting matters?

[still_one]

31. if some of the supporters on DU had 10% of the class of Bernie, DU would be such a nice place, inste

it has evolved among this elite segment as a forum of hating Hillary every chance they get

[beam me up scottie]

40. Speaking of class, how about these wonderful HC supporters?:

Calling Bernie a racist, a gun nut, a Republican man with his head between women's legs, protects the minutemen militia, pedophiles, racist cops, has rape fantasies and thought that orgasms prevented cancer.


But it's the Bernie supporters who are stinking up the joint, amirite?

[still_one]

41. I am specifically referring to those folks who go out of there way to brag how they won't vote for

the Democratic nominee, if it happens to be Hillary.

It is a selfish, diversionary tactic, that if Bernie wins the nomination, and enough Hillary supporters have that kind of view, we will deservedly get a republican president.

As for the slurs on either side, that is gutter politics at its worst, and nothing I support. However, I have seen numerous posts of some Bernie supporters making clear that they will not support the Democratic nominee if it is Hillary, and though they are entitled to do anything they want, and vote for anyone they want, and NOT share they, they seem to jump up with enthusiasm declaring that they will NEVER vote for Hillary in the general election if she is the nominee, and my view of that type of thought process is selfish and arrogant

[beam me up scottie]

42. And some HC supporters don't go out of their way to brag about how they won't vote for Bernie?

Do you heap the scorn upon them too?

[still_one]

44. Absolutely, but it seems much more evident with those few Bernie supporters. Why go out of your way

to even comment who you WON'T vote for in the general election if it is a specific Democratic candidate not to one's liking? No one is compelled to say they won't vote for a specific Democratic nominee in the general election, they can do as they please.

The only purpose it serves is to piss off the other candidates supporters who may be motivated to play that silly-ass game also

[pinebox]

52. And....

People are free to vote for whomever they wish to. You, I, everybody else. Hillary doesn't fit my ethics nor my beliefs, as such I won't vote for her. It's really *THAT* simple.

[daleanime]

53. So you could talk about 'people who say that they won't vote if they don't get their way...'

but you don't. You choose to talk about Sanders voters, why do you think that is?

[artislife]

54. I know, can't you whip the H supporters into shape, please?

[Hollingsworth]

14. There are so many things to fix but the new slavery in prison systems has got to be the highest

priority. It literally makes me feel ill how people are herded like cattle to those places so a few can make a lot of money. It deeply, profoundly sickens me and should sicken all. All this is done while the ignorant call us the best nation on earth, the free-est, the best, and all the compliments you can imagine. While this is going on right under their noses. No, we are not free. We are easily distracted simpletons.

[kath]

17. The very concept of prisons-for-profit is utterly antithetical to the ideals of a so-called free

society.

that they were ever even started is appalling, and they have got to be eliminated NOW.

[Hollingsworth]

19. There is a lot of information out there about Bill Clinton's hand in all this wretchedness.

I am astounded at people who call his years in office those of peace and prosperity and how great things were. They were not. Things like the profit prisons were wriggling like maggots ready to hatch during these great prosperous and peaceful years. How many thousands of lives destroyed by this greed and carelessness all for the sake of money. The wretched simpletons can't handle these truths.

[hifiguy]

38. An upscaled drug war with prison privatization,

NAFTA, "welfare reform", the Telecom Act, "banking reform."

Yeah, Bill's "accomplishments" sure turned out great, didn't they?

Time has shown him to have been a very bad president.

[DanTex]

20. That's Hillary hating logic right there. A guy who works for a firm that represented

private prisons raised a small amount of money for Hillary, and next thing you know Hillary is "propped up" but the private prison industry.

Six degrees of Hillary Clinton, rinse and repeat.

[Enthusiast]

30. I don't agree that it's fair to characterize it as Hillary hating. It is policy hating.

As such I feel it is perfectly legitimate.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

4. HELP!!

I saw some Bernie brochures posted somewhere the other day and I'm almost sure it was here on DU.

Can someone please post a link or whatever to those brochures? I forgot to bookmark it and I have a republican who's watching this on CNN and is interested and I want to reel them in while I have the chance.

Thanks!

[Trajan]

6. I think there is a pinned post in the Bernie Group

[ChisolmTrailDem]

47. Thanks, Trajan, there was :) nt

[magical thyme]

27. this thread has links to several types of brochures

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=46603

[ChisolmTrailDem]

45. Thanks! I was able to print out a couple of things for this person to look over and I had

her go check out BernieSanders.com. I think we may have convert!

[magical thyme]

48. awesome! one at a time...nt

[ChisolmTrailDem]

49. One at a time, indeed, mt! nt

[SoapBox]

28. You can...

Try BernieSandersVideo.com...scroll to the bottom and look for Flyers.

Or dsausa.org...can't remember if they have some posted.

FeelTheBern.org is supposed to post some today.

Sorry I'm not on my iPad today with my usual bookmarks.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

46. Thanks, SoapBox! nt

[beam me up scottie]

29. That's very good of you to say, arely staircase!

[arely staircase]

35. Thank you. NT

[brooklynite]

34. How do you know? Everyone tells me the media is ignoring him.

[arely staircase]

36. I think his press coverage has been positive but Trump

sucks all the oxygen out of the room.