It is telling when the hillary fans are changing their attitude about Bernie.

[Logical]

changing their meme.

2 Months ago: "No way Bernie can win the primary's, hillary has too large a lead.

Now: No way Bernie can win the General election. He is not electable.

I love it!

[Hollingsworth]

1. The Bernie dude abides.

[cascadiance]

2. If Trump gets nominated by the Republicans, Bernie has the BEST shot of Democrats to win the GE...

... since the strengths he might have with any Republican moderates are on issues such as his rejection of the "free trade" deals and H-1B visas, and his rejection of "crony capitalism" donations from the elites (since he is an elite himself with his personal wealth). Those are the kind of issues that Ross Perot got 20% of the General Election vote from in 1992. On these issues Bernie has just as much draw as Trump does, and he's also able to be looked at as a lot more saner than Trump in terms of not being racist or xenophobic, amongst other things that Trump would be to American voters at large.

[cantbeserious]

3. Agreed - A Vote For Hillary In The Primary - Is A Vote For Trump In The General

[OhZone]

5. Sorry, it's been both and still is - did you see Nate Silver's analysis?

Nate Silver gives Hillary Clinton 93% odds of beating Bernie Sanders
Nate is always updating his numbers and has been very accurate http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/nate-silver-gives-hillary-clinton-93-odds-of-beating-bernie-sanders/22313/

Nate Silver, the polling analyst of FiveThirtyEight fame who correctly and definitively called the 2012 election at at time when most other pollsters thought it was too close to call, is speaking up on the 2106 election – and specifically the democratic party primary nomination race. Even as much of the media attempts to paint Hillary Clinton as being in trouble and Bernie Sanders as having momentum, Silver says the polls tell him just the opposite. In fact he’s assigning Clinton a 93% or better chance of defeating Sanders in the primary race.


Oh well.

[jfern]

7. 538 said Trump wouldn't be a serious contender

538 should give up on making random predictions about primaries 6 months away, and stick to aggregating polls of a general election a week away.

[OhZone]

8. Why? Cause you don't like what he says?

And I don't know about Trump really winning. The Democratic nomination is a little different than the GOP. We have only a handful of candidates and none are acting insane in order to appeal to the GOP's shrinking, racist, ignorant base.

Not only that, but predictwise still thinks Trump won't win.

More money is still on Jeb.

http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNomination


BTW - see the Pic of the moment with Trump wanting to date his daughter? I think Trump will still self destruct soon, personally. Or Jeb's owners will unleash the negative ads big time on Trump. Just keep quoting his wanting to sex his daughter.

Oh well.

[jfern]

9. They were talking about in the primary

538 has been extremely wrong about the primaries this year.

[OhZone]

10. LOL! We haven't even had a primary yet! nt

[jfern]

11. Their predictions are still totally wrong

[OhZone]

14. Oh-k, be specific with links, because we already know -

that Nate was spot on with the last general election.

[jfern]

16. Yeah, so he was OK aggregating polls for a general election a week away

But stuff like this for a primary several months away has been laughably wrong.

For this reason alone, Trump has a better chance of cameoing in another “Home Alone” movie with Macaulay Culkin — or playing in the NBA Finals — than winning the Republican nomination.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-real-candidate-in-one-chart/

Two Good Reasons Not To Take The Donald Trump ‘Surge’ Seriously
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/two-good-reasons-not-to-take-the-donald-trump-surge-seriously/


Lots more like that from 538.

And yet, the Huffington Post average today is

Donald Trump 33.8%
Ben Carson 18.8%
Jeb Bush 8.7%



538 should really stick to predicting general elections a week away rather than this shit.

[OhZone]

17. Wait until we see some real primaries. 5 Months to see him collapse haha n/t

[jfern]

18. Trump definitely didn't do what 538 predicted

Even if he completely collapsed tomorrow (not happening), he'd have done much better than 538 predicted.

[mhatrw]

6. Plenty of room left on the Bernwagon! n/t

[morningfog]

12. I can't wait for: "Hillary is best as an underdog."

[OhZone]

15. Nope.

Still the overdog.



Nate Silver gives Hillary Clinton 93% odds of beating Bernie Sanders
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/nate-silver-gives-hillary-clinton-93-odds-of-beating-bernie-sanders/22313/

Predictwise -
Hillary Clinton 72 % Chance.

[LondonReign2]

19. The angle of that slope though...

She lost 20 points in two months and another 5 points since the beginning of this month.

[reformist2]

13. The electability argument is so weak. To me, enthusiam = electability.

And we all know which candidate is lacking in enthusiasm. ;p

[brooklynite]

20. I've never said the first; I've always said the second.

[delrem]

21. I don't recall ever hearing the term "most electable" before these '16 runups.

Next, I expect a "most electable" leader to be brought onstage inside a giant egg. Then to hatch, for our enjoyment.