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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:27 PM Sep 2015

I gotta admit, both my Optimism And My Inner Eyore are kicking up with the Bernie-friendly polls

Okay, I remember watching Bernie in action in the 1990's as he tore into the veil of illusion created by the GOP, the Tech Bubble and the Alan Greenspan wing of the Democratic Party, and pushed with the truly progressive faction of Democrats to bring about Real Reform.

And I remember thinking "Geeze. This guy should be President."

More recently seeing the zeitgeist begin to slowly shift to make the progressive populist/liberal somewhat more visible and acceptable. And thinking "Gee, if someone like Bernie or Elizabeth Warren could harness that..."

Then, when Sanders announced it was like "Yipee! I know he hasn't got a chance in hell of getting the nimonation, but hopefully he'll inject the seeds of a more honest progressive message and values and priorities into the Democratic mainstream this campaign."

Then as his crowds started to grow and his poll number began to slowly climb, I thought "Holy shit. This is becoming a movement.

Now, as he begins to eke out ahead of Clinton in some polls, I'm thinking "HOLY SHIT! He and the progressive movement might actually pull this off."

But I also gotta be honest. My nature is a perennial struggle between a side that is a relentless optimist and idealist, and another that is a cynical fatalist. Sort of a "Hope for the best but expect the worst" defense mechanism.

And both are battling it out at the moment. While I'm basking in the good news, my inner Eyore is saying "Uhhhhhh nooooooo. This can't be true. It's a fluke. It won't last. Clinton will bounce back, Unhhh ohhhh."

So I'm not counting on anything...."But Holy Possible Redemption Batman. This is starting to look doable."






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I gotta admit, both my Optimism And My Inner Eyore are kicking up with the Bernie-friendly polls (Original Post) Armstead Sep 2015 OP
If you didn't see the speech he just now gave in Greensboro, NC Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #1
Know where I might find it? Armstead Sep 2015 #3
It just finished. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #7
I'll get it for you. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #8
Here you go: Fawke Em Sep 2015 #17
Messy Buckets (Merci Beaucoups) Armstead Sep 2015 #19
No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Sep 2015 #2
I saw my first political sign of this election season in my red community. Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #4
wonderful! Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #24
48 more states to pull ahead in. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #5
Amen.... daleanime Sep 2015 #32
I feel exactly the same way. He's accomplishing what needs to be done, but aikoaiko Sep 2015 #6
What is being touted as optimism and idealism today Cleita Sep 2015 #9
Yes, as I sometimes say... Armstead Sep 2015 #14
Other societies respect old fartism. Cleita Sep 2015 #21
Sing it sister!! haikugal Sep 2015 #27
Like you, my inner Eyeore has kicked in several times berfore this Hydra Sep 2015 #10
As my 20 something year old son said to me ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #11
I can't afford a Volvo...I'm a Honda Civic old, white liberal Bernie supporter Armstead Sep 2015 #23
OMG, you need a Volvo!!! Honda's are good as well :) n/t slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #26
It is wise to consider all the possibilities RobertEarl Sep 2015 #12
You're right, but sometimes one has to vent... Armstead Sep 2015 #16
After all the years we have watched MuseRider Sep 2015 #13
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #29
I've never been this excited about a candidate or a future Android3.14 Sep 2015 #15
I was about JFK - this is almost better. 840high Sep 2015 #31
Armstead...You are Legacy DU'er like Me! Watch this Speech...It's Incredible..The Link: KoKo Sep 2015 #18
Listening to it (and sandwiching in peeks) now Armstead Sep 2015 #22
K & R L0oniX Sep 2015 #20
+1 Inner Eeyore, I love it. Eeyore was my nickname when I was a kid. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #25
K&R!! polichick Sep 2015 #28
you and me both my friend ibegurpard Sep 2015 #30
K&R! Good OP. senz Sep 2015 #33
Ditto: I remember feeling this way about Obama, too, later crushed, Bernie won't cave though. joanbarnes Sep 2015 #34
Tweety Oblivious colsohlibgal Sep 2015 #35

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
1. If you didn't see the speech he just now gave in Greensboro, NC
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:31 PM
Sep 2015

you HAVE to watch it. The crowd was phenomenal and he was absolutely on fire. Worth the price of admission just to hear him try to say "Y'all" with a New York accent. Seriously, you have to see this speech.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. 48 more states to pull ahead in.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:37 PM
Sep 2015

We've still got a LONG road ahead of us.Hope for the best, plan for the worst, and keep on plugging on til the last polling place closes.

Then take a breather, celebrate a bit, and the real work begins

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
6. I feel exactly the same way. He's accomplishing what needs to be done, but
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:39 PM
Sep 2015

he has many challenges to overcome. The first two dominoes appear to be ready to fall.

The HRC machine is awesomely strong, but I believe a Bernie nomination is possible.

And if a Bernie nomination is possible, then a Bernie president is possible.


Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. What is being touted as optimism and idealism today
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:47 PM
Sep 2015

was regarded as mainstream political thought back in my salad days. Even though there was an ultra conservative faction back then, they were considered crackpots and unAmerican by the average American even Republicans. Bernie's policies are about improving the social programs that have been in place since FDR. There is mostly practicality in his ideas and little idealism.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. Yes, as I sometimes say...
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

What is considered normal political and economic behavior todaym would have been considered unthinkable and beyond the pale in the not-too-distant past.

Hopefully that's not just old-fartism, but our moral and ethical standards have slipped a long way since 1980 or so.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
21. Other societies respect old fartism.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:12 PM
Sep 2015

Unfortunately my generation didn't. Most us were the first generation in our families to finish high school and aspire to attend college and do it. We knew the old folks were hard working and fought a Great War, but they also were ignorant. We didn't respect them as we should have. But back then we didn't have a mainstream propaganda media and we could keep up with current events. That has been destroyed and the younger generations aren't getting the information they need to to live their lives. I think we old farts need to supply that to them again.

I know there are many old farts who have been turned to the right wing because of their latent prejudices being appealed to by the right wing, but there are enough of us out there to do it, at least I hope so.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
10. Like you, my inner Eyeore has kicked in several times berfore this
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:49 PM
Sep 2015

But now I'm only asking one question- will they ALLOW him to take the nomination he is now posed to to secure? CAN they allow him to do so?

It's a scary line of though.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
11. As my 20 something year old son said to me ...
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:52 PM
Sep 2015

this is the time for Sanders, he would not have come this far without the younger generation. This generation is more open minded to his ideas about people and not as easily swayed by a "D" or and "R" after their name.

Good for them and for us, they are playing a big role!

Not to diminish all those older, white, liberal people that we read about on DU over a year ago that should 'just get out of the way.' I think they also drive Volvos.

This can be a hard battle between the majority of people and major money. Hopefully our elections will not have foreign governments intervene to silence a candidate, thinking of how long Mossadegh waited to run for national office only to be taken down.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. I can't afford a Volvo...I'm a Honda Civic old, white liberal Bernie supporter
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:14 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe that should be a new stereotype

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. It is wise to consider all the possibilities
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:02 PM
Sep 2015

But consider that this a team sport: this election.

We are in this to the end, and the end is the future. Meaning 20, 40 years.

In team sports, in the huddle or on the sidelines, no negative words need be spoken. All that need be said is: "We can win this".

I say: We have to win.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. You're right, but sometimes one has to vent...
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:45 PM
Sep 2015

and prepare oneself for whatever.

As I said in the OP, it's a defense mechanism, necessary I think to keep that optimistic half functioning.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
13. After all the years we have watched
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:18 PM
Sep 2015

and lived through watching this country go completely nuts I think a good many of us have that same Eeyore talking in the back of our minds at all times.

This time I think we may actually get it done. It is a perfect storm of misery, watching futures go up in smoke and no end in sight with the usual party lines and we are there, right where we need to be to see a Sanders gain the office.

I have written to him over the years, just in support. His interest excited me and his announcement had me dancing around the house. It is getting harder for Eeyore to get out these days.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
29. Like I have said before.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
15. I've never been this excited about a candidate or a future
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

He can win, and the future we envision can come about.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
18. Armstead...You are Legacy DU'er like Me! Watch this Speech...It's Incredible..The Link:
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:50 PM
Sep 2015

I just posted here on DU. Truly this is his best speech so far! Believe me on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251590768

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. Listening to it (and sandwiching in peeks) now
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:12 PM
Sep 2015

Good speech for sure, It's good to see him smiling at the beginning.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
25. +1 Inner Eeyore, I love it. Eeyore was my nickname when I was a kid.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:29 PM
Sep 2015

ETA: By the way, I always though Eeyore was simply a realist.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
30. you and me both my friend
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

And lifetime of disappointments will do that to you. Hope springs eternal however.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
35. Tweety Oblivious
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 07:17 PM
Sep 2015

I flipped to Chris Matthews and it was all Trump and Hillary. Unbelievable but I would assume he has his marching orders from Griffin.

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