2016 Postmortem
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Continuing his pre-presidential campaign, Vice President Joe Biden will head to the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation convention in Washington this weekend, according to sources familiar with the planning.
Bidens expected to attend the Phoenix Awards dinner on Saturday night, joining President Barack Obama, who will be headlining the event at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center, and may participate in other parts of the convention as well.
If he gets into the 2016 race, Biden will be banking on a strong showing with the African-American community, particularly in South Carolina, where hed be focusing most of his early state campaign energy. The CBC convention is the biggest gathering of African-American political power of the year.
The appearance will cap another active week for Biden full of stops primed for maximum political appeal: speeches at a solar energy conference in Anaheim and United States-China climate in Los Angeles on Wednesday, followed by a speech on the economy on Thursday in Detroit and an event on preventing sexual assault on college campuses in Ohio.
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Metric System
(6,048 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)We got your back BIDEN. The AA community will be there for him in droves.
Number23
(24,544 posts)from black folks that much. At least he would be smart enough not to campaign with Cornell.
As I've noted time and again, if black folks ruled out and discounted every single politician who has said or done some untoward shit towards us, we'd never have ANY DAMN BODY to vote for.
I'd need to read more about his positions but I'm with you. I'd be happy if Biden tossed his hat in the ring.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)because Biden is the type to admit it, apologize for it and move on, like he did when he made that "articulate" comment about candidate Obama. VP Biden has been at President Obama's side for 8 years even when some were trying to pressure him to run with HRC in 2012. PBO is loyal just like Biden. I think that's why they're become such close friends.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And the relationship he has with Obama is great to see.
They appear to genuinely have each other's backs which would also go a long way for the millions who support the current president.
kath
(10,565 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)that's when I first fell in love with Joe Biden. He saw the big picture. if Biden runs, Anita Hill will probably vote for him. Seriously, AA folks don't see the world the same way white folks do because we have a difference experience of America in that America responds to us in a different way.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Anita Hill: "Joe Biden Did a Disservice to Me and the American Public"
http://www.bet.com/video/celebrity/2014/anita-hill-interview-part-one.html
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)It is not truth. It is simply reframing a narrative in a way that's supposed to make BIDEN less attractive. But here's the thing. BIDEN is the Vice President to the first African American President and you can't get around that. He's had PBO's back for the past 8 years. And in return, if he runs, black people are gonna have his back.
So never you mind me. You just keep right on digging.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)"more attractive" then dig away yourself.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)And yes I can't stand him. but this was not about Clarence Thomas' policies. This was about something much uglier, old and nasty. and Joe Biden understood that and shut it down by neutralizing it. If the Anita Hill matter had never been brought up, Clarence thomas would not have been confirmed.
Bucky
(53,795 posts)I think, if nothing else, the race will be better off for having more than two candidates.
(Sorry, Martin)
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)of America. And he's a foreign policy expert and has great executive leadership skills.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)I'm convinced-- especially given today's polls, despite most people saying he'll sit it out.
His whole "waiting to see if he's emotionally ready" is part an overall strategy; Biden 2.0. Crushed by the loss of his son, he's now matured and found his greater calling; he will run for President because it's what Beau wanted him to and because its his call to service. The new Biden is more serious, cerebral, but still maintains the raw authenticity of before-- the type of passion only someone whose spirit has been broken can have. It's the type of campaign that people could "root" for despite not necessarily agreeing with him on all the issues.
I predict Biden and Sanders will be the ones battling for the nomination in the end, and I'm ok with that.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)to be much of a battle.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)But that is what my reading of the press, his interviews, and the trial balloons being floated lead me to believe.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)DRAFT Biden is a large organization and will be ready to go in a New York minute. Biden seems to be putting all the pieces in place and I really like how he's doing it.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)It was always that of a goofball-- even though that was an unfair media narrative. That is changing now though... whoever is behind the crafting of his new image has done an excellent job. From a political standpoint, they're making all the right moves.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Did you mean the latter?
ram2008
(1,238 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)When I think if goofball, I think of Sarah Palin or many of the GOP Prez candidates but not Vice President Joe Biden.
artislife
(9,497 posts)and that tipped his hand that he thinks Bernie is a real contender, not a flash in the pan. Will he run? Would have said no, but this turn of events has me on wobblier ground.
Do I want him to run? Sure, if he wants to. I don't think he will win, and I personally love him. I saw him speak at a Patty Murray rally. But he did push for things that hurt people; cc rules, bancruptcy laws, war, patriot act and the Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill hearings. Lots of womyn are still very pissed. I know, because I didn't remember that and posted I liked him on another board back in 2008....they were not happy with me.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Like the loss of his first wife and daughter in a car accident decades ago wasn't enough to make him "mature" enough to find his "greater calling?' Being sworn in his first term as senator...at Beau's hospital bedside was somehow not mature enough?
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Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)He will take the Hillary establishment vote. He's not going to stop the revolution
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Could be a loooong primary.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Biden is up for attack because he is the establishment and I don't think he can win against the GOP.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Hope they are ready for it.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)and I can see the mainstream media turning the Democratic primaries into a "Clinton vs Biden" contest.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)last time.
And her deeply loyal fans became dedicated to pissing on party unity.
Biden v Clinton will break the establishment into pieces like a Ming Vase thrown at a wall.
They've got to talk H> into surrender, and they've got to do it by mid-Nov when the deadlines for getting on primary ballots expire.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Doesn't she have the right to run?
That kind of attitude annoys me.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)If the establishment insists on running a plan B, it's got to be done in a way that doesn't create Biden v Clinton.
That will be an ugly thing and very tough on establishment dems. Imagine both contesting and splitting women, blacks, neoliberal/conservative dems, and superdelegates. It'd be bad.
It's also quite hard to imagine Clinton publically threatened in that way would ever back down. Pretty much the only way to get beyond a real brawl among establishment types would be to negotiate a surrender.
If that negotiation is gonna happen it must happen before the deadline to get names printed onto ballots for the early primaries, or the plan B candidate becomes a write in for early states...
Those deadlines begin mid November.