Cornel West has no place in a democratic Presidential campaign

[bigdarryl]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/14/1420914/-Cornel-West-Has-No-Place-in-a-Democratic-Presidential-Campaign

[Le Taz Hot]

1. Wow!

Who else should we ban from participation? Lots of people have said negative things about Obama and you don't demand that they be banned. Any reason why you want to ban Dr. West? Btw, you should read some history. Malcom X, the "field negro" vs. the "house negro." Now, tell me, who was he referring to in that speech? Should we be banned from quoting Malcom X too?

Please, supply a list of people who should be banned from presidential campaigns and I'll give it the consideration it deserves.

[bigdarryl]

3. It's not my saying it's what a progressive on Daily Kos is saying

A lot of African Americans are no fans of West so Sander's campaign can have his support

[Le Taz Hot]

6. But you posted it to stir up racist shit.

And, btw, a lot of African Americans also like and admire Dr. West for his straightforward talk which, apparently, hurts some people's fee fees. Here's a thought, maybe African Americans aren't monolithic. Ya think?

[uponit7771]

8. Posting facts about West racist tripe isn't stiring up racist shit... it's the truth, now posting...

... the truth about someone Sanders has chosen to associate with is stiring up shit!?

[uponit7771]

13. wrong person

[Le Taz Hot]

18. That figures.

It's 6:02 here and I've had 1/4 cup of coffee. You'd think I'd know better by now but no . . . .


Erase erase.

[thesquanderer]

106. Guilt by association?

This guilt by association stuff reminds me of how Obama got grief for whatever level of associations he had with Reverand Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayers...

[haikugal]

23. Thank you..

Not only are they not monolithic but they are capable of making up their own minds. Talk about overlords...damn! This person (KOS) is progressive in name only, people are free to think for themselves and capable of making up their own minds. I support Dr West and welcome him to the discussion.

[Stellar]

59. I wonder...

Can the same be said about White people and their support for Bernie?

Can you say for sure that it was posted by the OP to start, as you say, some racist shit? Or was it just a post that came from Daily Kos as a matter of interest. I'm confused because I'd like to post this video here, or should I delete it?

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/highlight/joy-reid-likens-bernie-sanders-current-campaign-to-obamas-in-08/55f06d82fe344487d100009a

[Le Taz Hot]

61. Are you proposing

that all threads are posted with the absence of an agenda?

[Stellar]

69. just asking a question, That is all. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

81. Me too.

[Anansi1171]

78. Things like colorism and labels like "Bourgoise", "Wannabe"...

..."Jigaboo" and "Sellout" are just as useless and marginalizing the racists stereotypes that whites and others use against us.

I am PLEASED that so many AAs are as offended as I was to the attacks as scurrilous as anything you will find from the right.

And lets leave Malcolm X out of it...in my best Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, Cornell West is NO Malcolm X.

It's not about feathers getting ruffled and fee fees getting hurt, it's about Dr West being an a--h---- and regarding him as one when he is.

[Le Taz Hot]

82. No, I don't think I will leave Malcom X out of ths.

Malcom X used similar language in the mid-1960's towards another prominent African-American leader yet Malcom X isn't nearly as vilified as Dr. West is for the same type of language.

It IS about feathers getting ruffled and they're getting ruffled because Dr. West stated what is obvious to most of us about President Obama -- he ran to the left during the election and once he took office, too a sharp right turn.

And nobody but you suggested equating Malcom X with Dr. West.

[99Forever]

7. I had a response and deleted it.

This horseshit isn't worth the bother.

[leveymg]

58. That only goes to prove that a lot of Hillary fans are to the right of Sanders and CW.

Nothing in his statements quoted proves racism on the part of Dr. West. Rather, he is trying to shake "moderate" (centrist-RW) Whites and AAs out of their lethargy. You may not like his approach and rhetoric -- and if as you are consciously to the Right of West, you likely have an ideological axe to grind against him -- but that proves nothing except your own biases and those of the poster on KoS.

[Logical]

70. Bullshit! You should self delete. Nt

[840high]

83. Don't do this please.

[nadinbrzezinski]

89. Let us qualify that statement

a lot of AA are indeed saying that. They tend to be more into the respectability politics side of the house. Many of the kids here locally are starting to give the white old man more of a hearing, and I include their leaders. And that is becuase of Cornell West... hell they quote him... RRRRUUUNNNN! They also love Malcolm X by the way.

What you are watching is an old tension going back to about 1900.I am not supposed to know any of this according to the folks here who are pushing that hard. Then again, I listen to all sides on this and I know that many are not ALL. It is far from it actually, and if anybody is telling you that all African Americans hate Cornell West, not only do I have a nice piece of land in AZ for sale, but they are outright lying to you.

[Number23]

93. Exactly. But that will be controversial to this crowd for reasons that most of us no longer care to

understand.

[appalachiablue]

101. West's name is spelled wrong in the title & Kos item. CORNELL, 2 L's. Easy to fix w/edit feature.

[sibelian]

114. Well, THAT'S a relief! I guess you don't agree with the contents, then?

Phew!

Scarily close to saying what sort of black person can be part of presidential campaigns there.

[roguevalley]

90. bigdaryl does this. It's his thing.

[SidDithers]

2. DU rec...nt

Sid

[uponit7771]

4. Amen and Amen! Calling another person racist tripe as West has done shouldn't be tolerated by

... anyone.

The number of post here defending west is gob smacking

[morningfog]

9. West is an acedemic. He does his job well.

[RiverLover]

10. Are you joking? We need more truthtellers like him!

ie,

Transcript of Cornel West’s January 17, 2013 statements regarding the use of Martin Luther King Jr.’s Bible during the inauguration of Barack Obama:


Now, when I got the news that my dear brother Barack Obama, President Obama, was going to put his precious hand on Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Bible, I got upset. And I got upset because you don’t play with Martin Luther King, Jr. and you don’t play with his people. And by his people, what I mean is people of good conscience, fundamentally committed to peace, and truth and justice. And especially the black tradition that produced it.

All the blood, sweat and tears that went into producing a Martin Luther King, Jr. generated a brother of such high decency and dignity that you don’t use his prophetic fire as just a moment in a presidential pageantry, without understanding the challenge that he presents to all of those in power no matter what color they are. No matter what color they are!

So, the righteous indignation of a Martin Luther King, Jr. becomes a moment in political calculation and that makes my blood boil. Why? Because Martin Luther King, Jr., he died knowing the three crimes against humanity he was wrestling with. Jim Crow – traumatizing, terrorizing, stigmatizing black people, lynching, insultful – not just segregation the way the press wants to talk about.

Second, carpet bombing in Vietnam, killing innocent people especially innocent children. Those are war crimes Martin Luther King, Jr. was willing to die for. And thirdly, was poverty of all colors. He said it’s a crime against humanity for the richest nation in the history of the world to have so many of its precious children of all colors living in poverty, and especially on the chocolate side of the nation, in Indian reservations, in brown barrios, in yellow slices, and black ghettos, then. We call them hoods now, but ghettos then.

So I said to myself, “ok nothing wrong with putting your hand on the Bible.” Even though the bible talks about justice and Jesus is talking bout “the least of these.” But when you put in Martin’s bible? I said, “this is personal for me. This is the tradition I came out of. This is the tradition that is connected to my grandmothers prayers, and my grandfathers sermons, and my mothers tears, and my fathers smile, and it’s over against all of those in power who refuse to follow decent policies.”

So I say to myself, “Brother Martin Luther King, Jr., what would you say about the new Jim Crow? What would you say about the prison industrial complex? What would you say about the invisibility of so many of our prisoners? So many of our incarcerated, especially when 62% of them are there for soft drugs, but not one executive of a Wall Street bank gone to jail? Not one!” Martin doesn’t like that. Not one wiretapper. Not one torturer under the Bush administration, at all.

Then, what you say about the drones bring dropped on our precious brothers and sisters in Pakistan and Somalia and Yemen? Those are war crimes, just like war crimes in Vietnam. Martin Luther King, Jr., what would you say? “My voice hollers out,” and don’t tame it with your hand on his bible. Allow his prophetic voice to be heard. Martin, what would you say about the poverty in America now, beginning with the children, then the elderly, then our working folk, and all colors not just here, around the world. Don’t hide and conceal his challenge. Don’t tame his prophetic fire.

So, that as much as I’m glad that Barack Obama won – I think that brother Mitt Romney would have been a catastrophe, and I understand my brother Newt told the truth about fat vampire capitalism but that’s true for the system as a whole not just Mitt Romney in that regard – but when Barack Obama attempts to use that rich tradition of Frederick Douglas and Ida B. Wells-Barnett? Use the tradition of A. Phillip Randolph? Use the tradition of Rabbi Joshua Heschel? Use the tradition of Tom Hayden and so many others struggling to produce that voice that pushed Martin in the direction that it did? I get upset.

People say, “Oh brother West, there’s Smiley and West, hating Obama.” No, no. We just loving the tradition that produced Martin Luther King, Jr. and were not going to allow it to be in any way sanitized, deodorized and sterilized, we want the subversive power to be heard. That’s what made me think, when you said he was gonna put in his hand on that bible. And I’m praying or him. I’m praying for him. As is Newt – both of us Christians, you Catholic, I’m Holy Ghost funkygut gutbucket Baptist – but we’re praying for him. Putting pressure on.

[JEB]

42. Thanks for posting that. Bookmarking.

This should be an original post. Very helpful in understanding Dr. West and his principled stands on the issues.

[Scuba]

43. /\_/\_This right here_/\_/\

[arcane1]

76. Thanks for posting this, but the irrational haters will ignore it.

[840high]

84. Thank you.

[grasswire]

102. outstanding.

And again I ask the question of AA denouncing Dr. West:

Which do you want more:

Pushback against white privilege?

Or to protect Obama from criticism from the left?

[JackInGreen]

11. African American activists make stink and nasty comments: lovely

African American academic makes stink and nasty comments: deplorable.

That lens is pretty damn descriminate.

[uponit7771]

14. Link to AA "activist" proffering racist tripe towards Obama!? tia

[JackInGreen]

16. Only at Obama?

Is he the sacred cow or will general statements celebrated work? If he's the heffer that can't be touched that's good to know.

[uponit7771]

24. I'll take that overt dodge of the question as you don't have any proof of what you posted

[JackInGreen]

27. Don't provide clarity if you choose not to

Just remember everyone: talking shit is fine, as long as it's not at Barry. So sayeth uponit.

[uponit7771]

29. Calling people ugly raced base names is not fine no matter who says it. I'm shocked to find so many

... supporters of ugly raced based name calling on DU now

[AgingAmerican]

36. So, Cornell is racist against Blacks?

Isn't he a black AA Studies professor? How is it possible that he is 'Racist'? We hear endlessly how only white males can be racists.

[still_one]

41. That isn't what the post your responding to said. It said Dr. West is making racist statements.

Racism doesn't not just refer to white against black, racism can be found in all demographics, including black against white, white against Asian, Asian against white, etc. It can refer to white against white or black against black also when broad based attacks involve negative racial connotations.

By West alluding to President Obama with derogatory racial statements, calling him essentially a "white man in a black face", is a racist statement. It is a broad based generalization implication, that being "white", implies a negative connotation.

[azmom]

56. It's a racist statement because it implies that

Being white has a negative implication. Is that what you are saying?

[still_one]

65. No, I am NOT saying that. It is what Brother West is saying, by saying that President Obama is

"a "Republican in blackface", plus other outrageous racial metaphors to describe President Obama.

Brother West is saying the President is "white on the inside, and black on the outside".

As though Brother West is the self-appointed person who decides which African Americans are African American enough.

[azmom]

74. So, Brother West is anti-white and your

Proof is the things he has said against Obama. Is that your opinion? I'm trying to understand.

[still_one]

79. I didn't say that either. Are you "really trying to understand"? Let's leave it at that

Have a good day

[AgingAmerican]

87. of course it's found in all demographics

But a lot of people who are attacking him also claim that only white males can be racist.

It's pretty obvious that they don't think these things out very well before posting

[still_one]

88. Understood

[nadinbrzezinski]

104. Yesterday they were bending over backwards

as to how racism only can occur in the presence of power to do something about it. Ergo no black man could ever be racist, by extension only white men (I guess not even women) had to, and this went all the way to the original sin... I agree there is one, at the center of white supremacy... but now they are calling West Racist.

Since the good prof has no power against the POTUS. there is no racism at all... using their own definition and attack on lingustics on a bad heuristic and search of semantics.

Regardless the language that West has used, which you and I might find deplorable... is one that has been in common usage among academics for decades, in particular some in Africana studies. This little conflict both within and outside the community regarding politicians, and a few other things, goes back at least to Dubois.

Once the context is understood... the language stops being deplorable incidentally... hell I have heard variants of it when it comes to a member of the local city council. And I should point this out, it is coming from local AA members.

That said, I will watch that small group continue to ram that spike that will lead to a division... perhaps a permanent one. It is the height of hypocrisy... and I will leave it at that. As is I cannot, I have been told this repeatedly, understand any of this since well I am not black. Correct, I am not black, but I have even been denied my identity as a minority by this same crowd as well. So forgive me for taking them individually not too seriously.

[still_one]

109. Well gee, that is peachy. I am a Jew, but I don't use the word ""kik?" or "I got je?d" to describe

someone who happens to Jewish that I disagree with.

The most ironic thing is there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Bernie Sanders would deplore the use of such prejudicial terms, but by all means those that justify it, along with using the "c" word other such descriptions, I am sure it will be a crowd pleaser. It sure seems to work for Trump

Mirrors are a funny thing

[nadinbrzezinski]

111. Indeed.

But the term the professor used is not close to Kike, or any other. It is far closer to something going back to oh actually slavery. If I repeat that term this will be hidden.

And yes, ir's been used by Africana Studies professors as well (and kids in the hood)

[uponit7771]

44. Deflection, we're talking about West ugly race based attacks against Obama whether or not he

... can be racist isn't a sign off on him labeling the president such ugly terms cause he didn't get the seats he wanted at the inaugoration.

[grasswire]

103. .....and Glenn Greenwald is a narcissist...

.....and Ed Snowden has boxes in his garage. Haven't we heard the same kind of attacks on so many people who call for transparency and liberty, from you?

[Ed Suspicious]

15. I love the smell of blatant hypocrisy in the morning.

[JackInGreen]

17. *big whif*

Smells like desperation.

I'm sure some of em cam surf though.

[Bonobo]

19. It's hilarious.

The people who SCREAMED about BLM's right to jump onto stage and take the mic by force are DENYING the right of another black person to be HANDED the mic.

[Le Taz Hot]

20. Oooh,

good point! VERY good point!

[Ed Suspicious]

22. It's how most anti-bernbots operate.

</script

if (anti-sanders) {
echo "this guy here so good";

} elseif (pro-sanders) {
echo "this guy here so bad";

} else {
echo " ";

}

?>

[Scuba]

45. /\_/\_And this right here_/\_/\

[840high]

85. +100

[awoke_in_2003]

91. +1000. nt

[truebrit71]

100. Hilarious? It's totally un-fucking-believable....

....

[Bonobo]

108. It is all too believable. But it's the proof of their insincerity. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

112. You noticed that too?

Not surprised in the least though.

[restorefreedom]

21. wow, shut down democracy much?

what an affront to the party name

perhaps there should be an approved list of participants in democracy, you know, like one of hillary's fancy $3000 per plate dinners...

yeah, a guest list, thats it.......



edit to add, that comment is directed to the author article, not the poster

[HereSince1628]

25. Nothing new that. The DLC was a by invitiation only club of self-declared superior political minds

[uponit7771]

26. No, shut down assholes much more. FAUX news would fire West for the things he's said about

... Obama.

Not only have they been bald faced lies but full of ugly raced based attacks..

His context and form are 100% petulant, all this over inaugoration tickets

[restorefreedom]

28. so you are in favor

of an approved list as to who gets to gets to speak in this country?

[uponit7771]

30. No, I'm in favor of not calling other humans racist names and not associating causes with said folk

...as Sanders has done

[restorefreedom]

32. aahhhh i see

now that you have tossed bernie's name into this, all has become clear

have a nice day

[uponit7771]

33. Don't get mad, if Hillary was on stage with Trump you'd be the first to rec an OP of her being tone

... deaf towards Hispanics.

Trump and West say ugly raced based crap about people or persons

[restorefreedom]

38. i have actually tried hard

to stay out of discussions of racial issues. as a white person who grew up in a white town, i know i don't have the life experience to understand as some, although i can recognize racism when i see it like most reasonable people.

but i do not believe in squashing the voices of people who have something to say. in all my juries, i have only voted for one hide, and it was a unanimous decision.

as for hillary and trump, i would not be surprised at all to see them on stage together..they are both fighting for the rights of the 1%

cheers

[daleanime]

31. Every American has a place in a truly democratic election....

Period.

[Capt. Obvious]

34. LOL!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Yes he does and

I hope he gets a place in the WHITE HOUSE after Bernie is elected.

[Gothmog]

37. I have never been impressed with Cornel West

Good article

[TM99]

39. Take a breath people.

He gave one introductory speech for Sanders. He is hardly his right hand man!

Some like and respect West. Some don't. I do love the way so many white people here are coming to the defense of us poor dumb poc who should know better than to respect and admire West.

And the hypocrisy! Wooo weee! It stinks.

BLM speaking out, raising hell, using flowery language, and bordering on the extremist side of things? Hell yes, black lives matter!

Dr. West speaking out, raising hell, using flowery language, and being a bit extremist at times? Oh, hell no, he is a racist!

Now here is the actual speech. How about y'all focus on that instead of the damned cults of personality, identity politics, and real racist bullshit that passes for discourse these days on DU.

Man, listen to him speak to power. Listen to that crowd roar. Blacks, whites, latino's, everyone, they get it. They are loving what he is saying and are there to hear Sanders offer concrete solutions to the problems that West has ALWAYS highlighted!

Get on the love train. Preach it Brother West!!!

[HooptieWagon]

49. Amen.

[haikugal]

60. This is what it's about...right here!

[jeff47]

64. But if we do that, we might have to think!!

[hootinholler]

80. Damn! What's that smell?

Why it smells like fresh air.

You have been missed, thank you for returning!

[morningfog]

40. Turns out he does!

[JEB]

46. This whining about Dr. Wesst reminds me

of the hoohah about Bill Ayers. Both insipid and hollow political attacks.

[jeff47]

47. Gotta give you props for recycling. Can just cut-n-paste the outrage from Rev. Wright. (nt)

[LondonReign2]

62. Yup. Trying to recycle losing Republican talking points from the last election

doesn't necessarily seem like a wise strategy.

Democratic candidate is a Socialist? Check
Democratic candidate hangs out with scary black person? Check

[SouthernProgressive]

48. Sanders and West are now tied at the hip.

He will be tied to West and his comments as West is a surrogate. Nothing new here as Sanders supporters tie Hillary at the hip to anyone she has ever been photographed with. This is the lowest of the low and has completely changed my thoughts on Sanders himself. I have been saying he is a politician just like the rest. Well, the rest seem to be a little smarter than he is. West isn't half the intellectual his fans give him credit for.

[HooptieWagon]

51. Tied at the hip... Like Hillary and Kissinger?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2013/05/02/henry-kissinger-to-hillary-clinton-at-least-four-secretaries-of-state-became-president/

One of the most vile persons in US history, equal to Darth Cheney. Hillary's bff.

[SouthernProgressive]

53. Exactly my point. Thanks. nt.

[frylock]

105. That may become a problem when West is responsible for the deaths of millions of innocents.

[polly7]

52. I think his heart is in the exact right place and his understanding and

conclusions spot on. He obviously has fought for and cared about AA life and death issues for a long, long time. I wouldn't call those who agree with him 'fans', as much as human beings who hope for the same changes he does.

Kelly noted that Carson specifically said black people shouldn’t focus on Bernie Sanders, to which West retorted that “Sanders is the only one who’s going to provide a living wage.” He also noted that, like Sanders, Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Democratic socialist who focused on issues like education and a living wage.

“But what about you?” Kelly asked, “you’re part of the #BlackLivesMatter movement…where are protests over the state of inner-city America and the policies that have left African-Americans communities in the state they are?”

West replied by reminding Kelly that there’s a difference between state-sponsored violence and violent acts committed by individuals. She noted that “the difference is staggering” between the number of black people killed by other black people versus those killed by police.

“When you socially neglect a people, when you economically abandon a people, when you transfer wealth from them to the well-to-do, what are a people going to do?” West asked. “They’re going to respond with very sad forms of despair, and that’s true for everybody, I don’t care what color you are. It’s true with Appalachia, it’s true with indigenous people, it’s true around the world.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/25/megyn_kelly_demands_cornel_west_explain_why_blacklivesmatter_doesnt_protest_black_on_black_violence/

bbm.

Do you disagree with any of this?

[SouthernProgressive]

55. "Do you disagree with any of this? "

I don't take time anymore to read on West. He simply isn't worth it to me. We could sit here all day playing this little mind exercise and it would prove nothing. I could pull up quotes left and right from Paul that mirror comments by Sanders(and Hillary for that matter). If you agreed with those quotes could I then say you support Paul but aren't aware of it. This is not a flattering debate tactic. West is scum. And I am perfectly fine calling them fans.

"the first black president, has become the first nigger-ized black president,” West

[polly7]

67. Lol. West is not scum!

He's an extremely well-educated, passionate man who speaks from his heart. He was frustrated and disappointed in Obama - I know how much even I, a Canadian, hoped for huge change in international policy, and on certain issues ... I can see that he's tried. I still like President Obama and know how much he's helped the American people - huge, huge props for all he's accomplished. Dr. West's hopes would have been 1000x more invested than mine, so I can't imagine how deep the disappointment must have been for him or judge him for the words he used. Frustrated people say OTT things, it shouldn't take away from the validity of their argument in totality for anyone who cares enough to try to understand, imho.

Could you please provide the full context for that cherry-picked quote? Hopefully, you've examined it closely enough to have gotten such a strong opinion of the man ("scum&quot from it ....... or maybe you really just don't care enough.

[polly7]

72. I'm also wondering what Paul, Hillary, and even Sanders have to do with your disgust for

Dr. West? Your debate tactic puzzles me.

[TM99]

54. Well bluntly I would rather have

a passionate if sometimes over the top angry black man who speaks truth and fights for all of us as a Sanders surrogate than the lying sycophants that are Clintons!

West isn't half the intellectual his fans give him credit for.

Seriously?!

Yeah, I know. Fuck me. He only has a Ph.D. from Princeton as well as 30 other honorary degress. He has taught at Union, Yale, Harvard, Princeton, and the University of Paris. Nope, he is just another dumb ass angry black man!

[haikugal]

63. You be sure to help us remember that...tied at the hip nonsense.

[Autumn]

50. Ah yes he does. As an American he has every fucking right to support the candidate of his choice.

[Vinca]

66. Just as much right as the Wall Street bankers lined up on the other side.

[Autumn]

68. Funny how no one is offended by that and the damage they have done.

[RufusTFirefly]

57. That's right. Keep throwing stuff against the wall. Eventually, something may stick.

Or not.

These impotent flailings are more sad than annoying.

[MellowDem]

71. I guess Hillary is out then...

Given her blatant race baiting last election.

[Jappleseed]

73. How many blacks did our last guy have to denounce for Hillary.

What is it with Hillary forcing Demcorats to denounce black supporters?

[mhatrw]

75. That's the same thing Obama said after he won in 2008. n/t

[Trajan]

77. BigDarryl?

Your days as a presence on my DU are over ...

When you purposely use specious, inaccurate statements to degrade and demean our good, decent and well meaning candidates, you frankly do not deserve to exist in my DU stream. You have no truth on your side.

You go into ignore, and never shall you exit ... Byebye ...

[irisblue]

97. alert results

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Completely unnecessary and disruptive. The idea that black DUers such as bigdarryl cannot dare to discuss issues important to them or that they are considering in the big forums is disgusting and thoroughly unDemocratic.

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[Trajan]

99. I had no idea the poster was a person of color ...

I'm tired of the nonsensical BS that some posters use to cast aspersions against a good person . ... My list is long, sadly ...

Thanks for the update ... .. Rock on!

[Chan790]

86. neither does a DLCer like Hillary; here we are. n/t

[artislife]

92. Why? Isn't he a citizen? nt

[ancianita]

94. To denounce Cornel West is to denounce Bernie Sanders. Daily Kos should stop it and so should you.

[mythology]

95. While I think Cornel West is a joke for a number of reasons

I have no problem with him endorsing/campaigning with Sanders. I don't think it will be particularly helpful to Sanders, but it's his campaign.

Much like I don't think Obama held all of the beliefs of Jeremiah Wright, I don't think Sanders holds all of the beliefs of Cornel West.

[ancianita]

96. Unlike Obama w/ Wright, Sanders trusts that West understands the AA world more broadly.

Black youth are critical of old school perspectives, but they love West's Marxist critique, his knowledge of black churches' and culture's historical drive for uplift, for self critique, and his understanding of how the War on Drugs was really a war against black people.

For America's African Americans -- by no means a monolithic demographic -- Cornel West is the real deal. If he endorses Bernie Sanders they will definitely give that candidate a fair appraisal.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

98. Do you need to edit, or are you actually claiming that West has no place in...

...a Small-d democratic Presidential campaign?

Because if you meant capital D Democratic Presidential campaign, you're wrong for all the reasons that have been iterated above. But if you meant he has no place in a small-D democratic Presidential campaign, then you're not only wrong, you're also antithetical to democracy itself. Think about it.

[aidbo]

107. +I

[mhatrw]

110. If you agree with West on every issue he differs from Obama on, then what is all the bile about?

WAAAAAAHHHH, he was a meanie-pants to Obama!!!! WAAAAAAHHHH, he was racist (lol) to Obama!!!!!!

What are you going to cry about next, AA rappers using "nigga" in their lyrics?

Come on. Obama disappointed all progressives. He would not deny that if he were sitting with us right now. And Obama would also defend West's right to criticize a sitting POTUS in harsh language. So what's the problem? Presidents are public figures, not sacred cows. West did not betray Obama any more than Obama betrayed the legion of AA progressives who helped elect him.

[ieoeja]

113. Do people who made race based attacks against Obama in 2008 have a place in a Democratic primary? nt