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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:12 PM Sep 2015

Bernie Sanders was great at the Liberty University speech

He admitted that he disagreed with many things but went straight back to policy and concrete ways to deal with injustices and inequities that we all know exist.

He did not denigrate a person, merely a policy. He did not slam a problem without offering a solution.

If the only criticism you have of him is the racial makeup of the crowd, you are not the solution.

He spoke honestly at a Christian event. He spoke up honestly for African Americans, despite the lip he has gotten that he himself is a racist (which is fucking absurd).

I tell you what - and it is a challenge. Out of all of the candidates, pick the candidate that consistently, unfalteringly and tirelessly doesn't say that he believes in equality, diversity, justice and morality - pick the person who shows it.

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Bernie Sanders was great at the Liberty University speech (Original Post) Aerows Sep 2015 OP
It was an amazing event, a lesson in how people even if they sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #1
Our liberal philosophy is basically very much like the gospel that Jesus taught. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #4
That's an easy pick. Bernie Sanders. Autumn Sep 2015 #2
I don't normally listen to any political speeches tularetom Sep 2015 #3
I watched it because I wanted to see how he could possibly Live and Learn Sep 2015 #5
What I love about Bernie Sanders Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #6
I live in the ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #7
It depends on what Aerows Sep 2015 #9
I live far away from the area and have heard lots of people talk it about. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #11
Some people are ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #12
I was an Obama supporter in 2008. A very different candidate. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #13
But Beernie IS the Second Coming Armstead Sep 2015 #15
Lol, who knows? It's possible at least some of them are saying to themselves 'you know sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #17
He would be ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #16
Why do you think that's too old? And Hillary would be older than 75 in 8 years. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #18
She's 7 years younger. ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #19
I recognized something in the way he spoke to them. LWolf Sep 2015 #8
And he did not finger jab and scold. Hollingsworth Sep 2015 #10
this bodes very well for how he would govern... magical thyme Sep 2015 #14
I believe he could work very well Aerows Sep 2015 #20
obviously not "red letter" christians strawman50 Sep 2015 #21
That was a historic speech and I believe we've just begun to realize the ramifications of the impact Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #22

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. It was an amazing event, a lesson in how people even if they
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:21 PM
Sep 2015

disagree on some pretty major issues, can be respectful to each other. And I wonder given how beautifully, how directly he addressed the differences, then gave what was like a lesson on the Christ's teachings to this Christian audience, quoting from the bible, never insulting or challenging, but asking them to honestly consider the real lessons of Christ, caring for the least among us, not taking away from the already poor. And the audience clapped.

I have a feeling quite a few people left that event thinking a lot about what they have believed and whether Bernie's words were the truest they have actually heard. And from someone they thought was the antithesis of what they believe in.

It was a moving speech. And credit must go to Liberty, especially Falwell's son who gave the intorduction, for their respectful attention to everything he said. AND for inviting him in the first place.

I think Bernie would us to respect them. They gave him an opportunity to be at his very best.

I admit, I cried watching that speech and think it is the best he has given so far in this campaign.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. Our liberal philosophy is basically very much like the gospel that Jesus taught.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:00 AM
Sep 2015

In fact, I think we borrowed it from the Bible. That's really where it comes from.

We added the value of scientific inquiry from the Renaissance, the ancients and the Enlightenment and here we are.

But the essential core of what we liberals believe agrees with the teachings of Jesus.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
2. That's an easy pick. Bernie Sanders.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:22 PM
Sep 2015

His beliefs in equality, diversity, justice and morality are the very core of his being.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. I don't normally listen to any political speeches
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:39 PM
Sep 2015

But it was raining here today and I had a lot of time on my hands so I watched this one.

I don't know what I expected but I was impressed. He didn't pander, he was honest and direct about his own beliefs and what he believes that Christ stood for. He was respectful of his audience without telling them what they wanted to hear. And they seemed respectful as well, although they weren't in agreement with a lot of what he said.

Hillary Clinton could not do this. She would immediately lapse into her fake southern accent and talk incessantly about her "faith" and how the bible was her favorite book and the people watching would immediately know it was all bullshit.

Before I watched this I was a supporter of Senator Sanders Now I'm a rabid supporter.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
5. I watched it because I wanted to see how he could possibly
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:48 AM
Sep 2015

get through to these people. He did an excellent and yes, amazing job. His speech was very powerful.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
6. What I love about Bernie Sanders
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:45 AM
Sep 2015

is that he talks the talk and walks the walk. Absolutely nothing phony about this great man.









sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. I live far away from the area and have heard lots of people talk it about.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:25 AM
Sep 2015

They were blown away by how he and this group who for so long would appear to be incapable of even talking to each other, did so so honestly.

Bernie Sanders meant when he said that there are those who wish to divide us and HAVE and that is how they control this control this country.

He refuses to allow that to continue. And this was a perfect example of how diverse groups of people can focus on what they CAN agree on for the benefit of this COUNTRY and work towards making it a better place for all Americans.

I've never seen anyone other than Bernie manage to do something like this so honestly and successfully.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
12. Some people are
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:29 PM
Sep 2015

easily blown away. I really wouldn't expect much change from Liberty. I have no problem with Bernie but he's not the second coming.

I saw this kind of thing with Obama supporters in 2008 and in a short time the people who were enamored with him were quickly criticizing him.

If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him but I think he's too old to run for president and I prefer Hillary be the nominee.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. I was an Obama supporter in 2008. A very different candidate.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:44 PM
Sep 2015

I think he's just the right age, Hillary too though she has been called too old also. Ageism is as reprensible as any other ism and I like leaders who have lived long enough that they have developed wisdom. IF they are the kind of person who has done so. Not all human beings are capable of ever being wise.

When someone says Bernie is the second coming, rather than someone who did a superior job of talking to people who hold views so totally opposite to his own, then we will argue THAT particular claim.

Maybe it's just that we are so accustomed to 'mediocre' or total idiocy in our leaders, that whem someone like Sanders comes along, rather than him being the NORM which is what he should be, he stands out. That's how pathetically bad our government is.

Jon Stewart pointed this out re Bernie.

No, he's no second coming, but he is the first candidate in a long time with a long record of consistency on issues that are of importance to Americans. Too bad he is the first, but that is the state of our nation right now.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. But Beernie IS the Second Coming
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:49 PM
Sep 2015

I fully expect the heavens to open up in Jan 2017 and a shaft of golden sunlight to beam down on Washington DC

I'm surprised they didnlt recognize that at Liberty University.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Lol, who knows? It's possible at least some of them are saying to themselves 'you know
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015

this Socialist Jew sounds a lot more like the other one, than Bill O'Reilly or Limbaugh/Hannity et al.' And really, the issues they differ on, were never mentioned by Jesus.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
16. He would be
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:50 PM
Sep 2015

82 at the end of his second term. I personally think that's too old. The presidency ages much younger men badly. Hillary would be 75 - big difference. I' m no ageist, just realistic. I'm not young myself.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Why do you think that's too old? And Hillary would be older than 75 in 8 years.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:10 PM
Sep 2015

She's just a few years younger than Sanders.

I don't think that's too old at all, not these days and especially depending on the person. Bush the lesser eg, was way younger but couldn't put two sentences together showing signs of brain deterioration in his '50s.

That is why ageism is so reprehensible, it does the same thing as other prejudices, it lumps groups of people together and slaps a label on them when in fact, like every other group, older people vary widely in abilities and health.

Just being young doesn't guarantee anything, as we see almost every day re many of our elected officials.

I seriously despise this kind of labeling of groups of people.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
19. She's 7 years younger.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:20 PM
Sep 2015

It's not a label, it's reality. Ask people in their late 70s and 80s and most will tell you how much they've slowed down.

We're not going to agree so let's just leave it here.

Have a good day.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
8. I recognized something in the way he spoke to them.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:20 AM
Sep 2015

He was not just giving a speech. He was demonstrating how he works with people in Congress, how he's worked with people his entire political career: put the disagreements out in the open, accept them, and find common ground without giving up principles.

He was showing, rather than telling, the answer to the constant question about how anybody thinks he'll get anything done.

He does this all the time.

 

Hollingsworth

(88 posts)
10. And he did not finger jab and scold.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

He made a great impression on the audience and on his supporters. The guy is the genuine. No fakery to this one despite so many years in politics.

It can be done.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. this bodes very well for how he would govern...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:47 PM
Sep 2015

The conservatives I know disagree with him, but respect and like him for being respectful, open and forthright. They state that they know that he believes what he says. They very much appreciate that.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. I believe he could work very well
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:50 PM
Sep 2015

across the aisle. You don't have to guess about what he thinks, who he could be swayed by - you already know.

strawman50

(1 post)
21. obviously not "red letter" christians
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:52 PM
Sep 2015

Re: Bernie Sanders’ audience. I observed the stoney countenances exhibited by most of the students when asked to share a bit of their wealth with “the other”. My hypothesis is that they will not “pass through the eye of a needle”. The solution is to repent to the point that their bodies assume the consistency of their minds, as prescribed in Patanjali’s sutras; a technology mastered by the siddha, Jesus.

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
22. That was a historic speech and I believe we've just begun to realize the ramifications of the impact
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 05:11 PM
Sep 2015

from Bernie's message.

Bernie's address to Liberty University will send major tremors shaking the foundation of Nixon's half century old "Southern Strategy" Bernie has greatly reshuffled the political, ideological deck.

Thanks for the thread, Aerows.

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