How to lose a GE & demoralize the Party: Nominate the poster child for what is wrong with our govt

[Skwmom]

Last edited Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:22 PM - Edit history (8)

The Democratic Party will be demoralized because you can't defend the indefensible.

Update: Does the Democratic Establishment expect people to defend the SOS activities, the big money speaking fees, the Clinton foundation and the email stuff? Really? Because I'll let you in on a little secret. We regular folks don't think this is an honorable way of doing business (I can't use the term the people's business b/c obviously it isn't the people's business that was being done).

It will leave the voters demoralized and exhausted. Do you really see them going to the polls and voting for 4 more years of that? Really? Because Common Sense 101 tells me NO way in heck will that occur. I think they will turn over, pull the covers over their head, and go back to bed.

UPDATE: Is it sinking in yet?

[saturnsring]

1. Lol. Apparently not to be out done we have this

[Maraya1969]

2. I expected Trump to be the answer

[fbc]

9. I concur. If Clinton/Trump win it will be Oligarchy vs. Populism.

This could be a disaster.

[fadedrose]

17. Which is which? nt

[ibegurpard]

3. sometimes you have to wonder if it's intentional

[appalachiablue]

10. Could lead one to ask why did Bill phone Trump the day before the first GOP debate.

Nah.

[Warren DeMontague]

4. beltway conventional wisdom experts from bob shrum to debbie wasserman schultz

ALL Say that Hillary™ Is running a cant-lose playbook!

[Skwmom]

6. Corrupt Schultz who has made a mockery of the Democratic process. No wonder

she doesn't see the problem.

[Motown_Johnny]

8. It may be a great play book but the execution sucks.

It takes more than plans to win

[Warren DeMontague]

11. 'great playbook' = sarcasm

sorry if that wasn't more obvious.

[Skwmom]

32. How clueless can you be. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

33. That depends

On which "you" you are referring to.

If the "you" is me, then I guess it depends on whether you (you) think that post was serious, or not.

[hedgehog]

5. I think the question of how many people would actually

go to the polls is the critical one. A Democrat has to win overwhelmingly to win. That's not going to happen with lukewarm support. Just ask Gore and Kerry!

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

14. Correct if it is Clinton vs Trump or anyone else in the clown car

we will see a historical low in voter turn out the majority know voting will be pointless, the result will be the same in the end.

1% wins.

[hedgehog]

24. Many failed to see any difference between Bush and Gore until after 9/11!

Prior to 9/11, Bush was a joke and people had settled in for a quiet four year term.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

26. For many there was and still is no difference

People want to VOTE FOR SOMETHING not against

If candidates choose to run as corporate democrats they will garner the appropriate votes of those who support those policies.

Good luck with that this election cycle

[leveymg]

27. It's not the Democrats we really have to worry about in the GE, it's the Indies.

Hillary's negatives are above 60% among that key part of the electorate, which is also the largest part of the electorate.

[HooptieWagon]

29. Many polls show Bernie better with Indies.

There is no more 'Center' between the Parties. Most of the Independents are on the fringes.

[leveymg]

30. Right. The Indies aren't radical centrists -- HRC and Jeb fit that --most are populists without a

party. One can see why Sanders would appeal to Indies looking for someone on the side of the people.

Trump appeals mostly to Republicans who are sick of the boring corporate sameness and inauthenticity of the rest of the GOP field.

[zeemike]

7. Yes they do expect you to defend it.

Because it has been made normal...and normal should be defended.

But they don't care if you go to the polls...you win on percentages not number of votes and all they have to do is get half even if only 10% of the people vote.
And they are counting on a complete nut case to run against...so nutty that you will vote for the candidate out of fear...if you vote at all.

[Skwmom]

12. I think you are wrong. n/t

[zeemike]

19. Yes it is wrong

But that is what they expect.

[SoapBox]

13. Well...if the ship is sinking really fast and you're holding a rail, while your head

remains barely above water (death grip on the family jewels in that small suitcase!) hoping for the best...

Well...

DNC...DWS...HRC...

The party is OVER.

[sabrina 1]

15. The 1% is going to fight hard not to allow the PEOPLE to have a

leader who will not only represent THEM, but who will begin to end the theft of our resources by these Greedy, corrupt few who somehow have made themselves obscenely rich taking every dime they can by cutting wages, cutting benefits, outsourcing jobs while taking massive tax cuts, getting Congress to subsidize them despite their obscene wealth.

They are imo, money hoarders, and it appears to be a real addiction, they can never have enough, starving children doesn't bother them, injustice for profit thrills them.

They must be stopped but they will play every nasty game they can to try to hold on to what they have stolen from the people.

[Stardust]

21. True that! eom

[fadedrose]

16. maybe an organized write-in on the ballot would work...nt

[Stardust]

22. Absolutely. And we should be prepared for that eventuality. eom

[RiverLover]

18. R & K for absolute truth

Well said, Skwmom.

[AZ Progressive]

20. And then its a RW supreme court, the overturning of ACA, Roe vs Wade, gay rights...

[Stardust]

23. And the dismantling of our social programs...

[Skwmom]

25. She'd appoint corporatists as judges and it's called BLOCK the nomination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsuccessful_nominations_to_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

[GitRDun]

28. Wow great thread!

There's nothing redeeming at all about Hillary Clinton...you convinced me.

[Skwmom]

31. I realize Clinton has her following, and that nothing would make them not support her.

But unfortunately, most people don't think that way.