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(email) David Brock Struggles With Questions About Correct The Record Attacking Sen. Sanders (Original Post) virtualobserver Sep 2015 OP
David is such a schmuck... No wonder he is Hillarys pet attach dog. peacebird Sep 2015 #1
He wasn't expecting HuffPost to ID him on the slime dump virtualobserver Sep 2015 #3
You are 100% right. Apparently, when Brock sent the email, he requested it be off the record Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #61
Off the record? What a weasel. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #108
Brock founded the most importantly liberal website in the nation Eriteo Sep 2015 #4
and now he is slinging slime for Hillary against Bernie virtualobserver Sep 2015 #7
Yeah, fuck that guy. frylock Sep 2015 #8
Ok, I do not understand what you just posted. Perhaps because english appears not to be your 1 st peacebird Sep 2015 #9
fair.org is better though. nt Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #12
I agree. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #23
yep, much much better. FAIR isn't beholden to a political party. nt m-lekktor Sep 2015 #41
You didn't explain how it's better Eriteo Sep 2015 #48
1. Founded in 1986 jkbRN Sep 2015 #59
Jeff Cohen >>>> David Brock. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #136
Totally. I love fair.org jkbRN Sep 2015 #58
Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #100
Now the attack is on Brock personally and not Clinton? Or "her" SuperPac"? Funny stuff...and Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #13
you have your proof now, so now you shift YOUR attack virtualobserver Sep 2015 #22
You shifted YOUR attack to personal attack on Brock! It is crystal clear to all! Media Matters! Ever Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #25
I'm not attacking Brock virtualobserver Sep 2015 #27
No one "demanded proof" the email was real....the issue was there was no email to read ever posted! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #31
and you were dismissing it because of that virtualobserver Sep 2015 #39
And you are misrepresenting mine and many others requests for the email as something else. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #42
fine, so you believe that Hillary's coordinated SuperPAC slimed Bernie virtualobserver Sep 2015 #57
But Fred still wants to see that long-form birth certificate errr.. email. frylock Sep 2015 #64
The goal posts are on wheels now n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #73
Yep, but don't let up. Boot to the neck.. frylock Sep 2015 #76
First we lied about the email, now we're condemning Media Matters. Anything to stay off-topic. arcane1 Sep 2015 #83
I'll personally attack this "former" Republican piece of shit, not a problem at all. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #66
I appreciate the honesty on your opinion of the founder of Media Matters, Fox's arch-enemy. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #68
Thanks. I make no bones about it. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #70
Funny thing is, the GOP hasnt said anything like this against Sanders yet. 7962 Sep 2015 #103
Well, they are using Hillary, hoping she can slime Bernie and drive him out of the race. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #128
Hey, if he is going to play a slimy political game, I don't want him in my tent. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #72
Marist poll just released has Clinton leading all GOP main candidates by mostly double digits, Bush by 4. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #75
for now. 160 days or so to watch her fall and flail. and she will. roguevalley Sep 2015 #95
That should be of some comfort to you after Hillary loses the primary. frylock Sep 2015 #107
Hillary is engaged. Quit saying otherwise. morningfog Sep 2015 #131
Leading in sleaze or votes? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #137
And when the enemy of your enemy becomes the enemy of your friend what do you call that? zeemike Sep 2015 #112
Media Matters does nothing for the Left. I left it years ago. It was a sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #133
And so it came to pass, even the arch-enemy of Fox gets attacked by the extreme LW. Crazy days. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #134
I have been impressed by Brock's work since he turned left. madfloridian Sep 2015 #35
It was not "his group" it was him responding to a request for comment by one Huff Post blogger. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #37
Ryan Grim at WP is one of the authors of the article. madfloridian Sep 2015 #47
Yea its really disappointing. I remember him on Al Franken's AA show every week... phleshdef Sep 2015 #78
you mean he spun for the far right wing, then the establishment DEMS m-lekktor Sep 2015 #43
yes, The website is terrific. riversedge Sep 2015 #14
Brock is a liberal media superhero....these distorted attacks on him are....revealing. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #17
Correct the Record is Brock's Super Pac. That is why he was questioned about Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #34
Is there evidence the email was "released by the SuperPac"? Has anyone read the email? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #38
In the video, he called the info that he sent "opposition research" virtualobserver Sep 2015 #44
WHAT INFO! Show me the info!! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #45
it is all in the Huffington Post article...... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #49
You are seriously in denial Fred passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #92
What would it take for you to be embarrassed? n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #138
You have GOT to be dizzy from all the spinning LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #46
they can't bear for the "Hillary isn't attacking Bernie" bubble to burst...but it has. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #50
Yep. Because it follows that if she is attacking him. morningfog Sep 2015 #94
In a big way. For me, the worst part of this hit piece is slamming Bernie for negotiating to keep people Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #105
He admitted it in the interview. "I'm just putting it out there." And HuffPo Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #51
He apparently is in favor of people freezing to death,... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #32
Or create them Armstead Sep 2015 #36
And now he's lost all credibility. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #54
And he's throwing it all away n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #67
Once a right-winger, ALWAYS a right-winger Barky Bark Sep 2015 #90
Yeah, right. They correct a mispronounced word and act like its Watergate. 7962 Sep 2015 #99
David Brock is a schmuck and he was always a schmuck. The ONLY reason sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #102
The problem with the big tent is that sometimes vermin get in under the flaps. frylock Sep 2015 #111
Sometimes it isn't worth letting them in. Dems let him in only because sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #118
I remember those days, Sabrina 1, and Brock's dirty history... KoKo Sep 2015 #130
I haven't been to Media Matters for years. I signed up initially, reluctantly sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #132
Yes, I saw some of what you say... KoKo Sep 2015 #140
And now he is becoming Aerows Sep 2015 #113
Then why is he attacking Sanders FROM THE RIGHT?? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #127
He answers questions the same way Clinton does passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #84
The exchange repeats itself twice I'm the video Eriteo Sep 2015 #2
couldn't tell you, I didn't create the video virtualobserver Sep 2015 #5
I've noticed that a lot of media videos do that of late magical thyme Sep 2015 #62
That was fucking embarrassing.. frylock Sep 2015 #6
I just can’t believe THAT SHIT just came out of the mouth of the MEDIA MATTERS founder dorkzilla Sep 2015 #10
What an ass. I'm just putting it out there, eh? Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #11
cowardly. zero responsiblity virtualobserver Sep 2015 #15
Backpfeifengesicht Fumesucker Sep 2015 #16
Made me look it up TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #55
Had to look that up. madfloridian Sep 2015 #87
Oh, boy, a great new word to learn and quickly forget! But you're right. nt valerief Sep 2015 #96
Ass. SoapBox Sep 2015 #18
Opposition research? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #19
Yep. Hillary favors poor people freezing to death. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #26
She did not put it out there upaloopa Sep 2015 #52
And where did HuffPo get the 'story'? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #60
First Officer Spock must be turning over in his grave on Vulcan on reading that. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #69
fred, did you actually watch the video? he admits to sending it, admits it was him and isn't sorry dorkzilla Sep 2015 #85
First Officer Spock is a fictional character, much like President Hillary Clinton. frylock Sep 2015 #114
Doozy! Divernan Sep 2015 #129
No. It came from Huffington Post. David Brock or someone send an email to a Huffington Post upaloopa Sep 2015 #79
So, tech whiz Brock 'accidently' cuts and pastes an attack on Bernie... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #86
Did you read the story? upaloopa Sep 2015 #97
There is no context to this video. Hit piece on Brock IMHO riversedge Sep 2015 #20
nonsense virtualobserver Sep 2015 #24
No context by Bloomberg Corporate Media means nothing to see...Never have watched or respected anything on Bloomberg. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #29
He didn't deny sending it. He acknoeldged he did Armstead Sep 2015 #40
Hey, this is just very lame and out-moded damage control. Actually funny, how formulaic. djean111 Sep 2015 #53
It's a defense mechanism. I can't imagine how damaging it is to their psyche.. frylock Sep 2015 #115
The context is painfully obvious. They are talking about what Huff Po reported about Brock's PAC... phleshdef Sep 2015 #82
Getting to the depths now, huh? morningfog Sep 2015 #56
Yep. I see that. leftofcool Sep 2015 #142
He should be embarrassed, that was a feeble and lame smear job. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #21
Brock's ability to engineer smears didn't die. It was just dormant. n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #30
It looks like he never intended to be identified as the source of the smear Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #28
exactly, this was private slime virtualobserver Sep 2015 #33
Yep. HuffPo revealed that he had requested it be off the record BUT he made the request Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #63
Rookie mistake.. frylock Sep 2015 #65
Reminds me of Bushco feeding stories to the NYT arcane1 Sep 2015 #71
This has the stench of planted story all over it.. frylock Sep 2015 #116
I respect Media Matters but Brock is total "deer in the headlights" here and deserves to be... phleshdef Sep 2015 #74
In full agreement here. It's the good work of MM which makes this so much more annoying. arcane1 Sep 2015 #81
You can change the ideology of the sleazebag, Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #124
Haha Douche Supreme whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #77
Is this Brock creature Thespian2 Sep 2015 #80
he has nice hair! nt dorkzilla Sep 2015 #89
He's been a Clinton hitman for 20+ years. 7962 Sep 2015 #110
That explains Thespian2 Sep 2015 #141
no other word reddread Sep 2015 #88
I don't mean to be shallow TSIAS Sep 2015 #91
is Mark Penn on the team this time? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #93
His hair is a David Lynch wannabe. senz Sep 2015 #121
Why don't voters like Hillary Clinton? Aerows Sep 2015 #98
dark money portlander23 Sep 2015 #101
Not a good strategy, really... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #106
HA! d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #109
"Standard Lee Atwater/Karl Rove opposition let's-throw-every-thing-we- 1monster Sep 2015 #104
an attack so weak and yet so sleazy......THIS is the guy that is going to protect her in the GE virtualobserver Sep 2015 #123
What a fucking scumbag. 99Forever Sep 2015 #117
The Clinton's Karl Rove Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #119
Cornel West is labeled a liability aspirant Sep 2015 #120
I have never heard Brock call the President racist names no one should use in public leftofcool Sep 2015 #143
Brock is certainly a weasely fellow in the video. senz Sep 2015 #122
Aaand it's David Brock in the lead for worst toupee ever! hedda_foil Sep 2015 #125
Good. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #126
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #135
Does anyone recall Martin Short's "Nathan Thurm" character from SNL bullwinkle428 Sep 2015 #139
Lol, what a worm. He doesn't want to reveal his Rovian 'campaign tactics'! Pssst sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #144
he seems as comfortable in the slime as every other Hillary surrogate... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #146
Longer video (give them both a like at youtube) Babel_17 Sep 2015 #145

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
61. You are 100% right. Apparently, when Brock sent the email, he requested it be off the record
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sep 2015

but, as reported by HuffPo, there was no prior agreement. What arrogance. He actually thought his mere request would result in compliance.

The email flagged Corbyn's "most extreme comments" in response to a HuffPost article about the two politicians, and requested that the communication be kept off the record, though without any prior agreement.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-clinton-correct-the-record_55f85058e4b09ecde1d9d374
 

Eriteo

(22 posts)
4. Brock founded the most importantly liberal website in the nation
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:06 PM
Sep 2015

Nobody corrects right wing disinformation like media matters does.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
9. Ok, I do not understand what you just posted. Perhaps because english appears not to be your 1 st
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:11 PM
Sep 2015

Language? Please explain?

jkbRN

(850 posts)
59. 1. Founded in 1986
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:56 PM
Sep 2015

2. Contributed to changing the course of events within media coverage
3. Not affiliated with a super PAC

jkbRN

(850 posts)
58. Totally. I love fair.org
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:49 PM
Sep 2015

I don't even read media matters stuff; noticed they had a pattern of propping up certain issues & people--they've been this way for years.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
13. Now the attack is on Brock personally and not Clinton? Or "her" SuperPac"? Funny stuff...and
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:14 PM
Sep 2015

attacks on a liberal media icon who has exposed media crimes for years are just as distorted and once again using speculative opinion as fact...more funny stuff!

And Bloomberg Corporate Media is being used as the credible messenger ....more funny stuff!

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
22. you have your proof now, so now you shift YOUR attack
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

prior good deeds do excuse this sliming of Bernie

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. You shifted YOUR attack to personal attack on Brock! It is crystal clear to all! Media Matters! Ever
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:22 PM
Sep 2015

heard of what it does?

And Bloomberg hates Media Matters! And those are not "commentators", they are Bloomberg media cronies, whose opinions no one supporting Sanders should respect, on anything.

Corporate media over Media Matters????

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
27. I'm not attacking Brock
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

in a previous thread you demanded proof that the email was real

this proves it.

on video no less

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
31. No one "demanded proof" the email was real....the issue was there was no email to read ever posted!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:26 PM
Sep 2015

Not even in the original hitpiece/story on Huff Post!

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
39. and you were dismissing it because of that
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:30 PM
Sep 2015

David Brock slimed Bernie through Hillary's SuperPAC
and we are just holding them all responsible for the slime.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
42. And you are misrepresenting mine and many others requests for the email as something else.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:31 PM
Sep 2015

Show me the beef! Show me the email...no one "denied it existed"....please correct your misrepresentations.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
57. fine, so you believe that Hillary's coordinated SuperPAC slimed Bernie
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:49 PM
Sep 2015

and Brock acknowledges that he sent this SuperPAC opposition research to HuffPost.

HuffPost published it and identified Correct the Record as the source.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
83. First we lied about the email, now we're condemning Media Matters. Anything to stay off-topic.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:53 PM
Sep 2015

Hell, I think the EPA is way more important than MM, but that doesn't give Nixon a pass.




(Countdown to the "You're saying Brock is just like Nixon" accusation)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
66. I'll personally attack this "former" Republican piece of shit, not a problem at all.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:30 PM
Sep 2015

If this slimy, lying motherfucker wants a war, we can do that. Next.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
70. Thanks. I make no bones about it.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:37 PM
Sep 2015

I've read in these pafges recently that we who support Sanders need to get used to the big leagues, the attacks coming from Republicans, etc. setting aside the fact that Hillary is supposed to be a Democrat, I have no problem with big league, hardball politics. But I will damn we'll respond to attacks on my candidate, and I'll do it my way, without anyone else's leave. And I'm going for the jugular when people tell lies about my candidate. Bernie Sanders is a nice guy. I'm not.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
103. Funny thing is, the GOP hasnt said anything like this against Sanders yet.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:34 PM
Sep 2015

They just say he's a Socialist. Hillary is doing THEIR dirty work for them!

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
128. Well, they are using Hillary, hoping she can slime Bernie and drive him out of the race.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:17 AM
Sep 2015

And then they won't have to do it.

Those real attacks will begin to happen after he wins the primary and the nomination.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
72. Hey, if he is going to play a slimy political game, I don't want him in my tent.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

It is these kind of shenanigans that turn people off of politics. The type of politics he tried to play here is right out of Rush Limbaugh's playbook. Hey, I just putting the facts out their, people can come to their own conclusions!

What shite.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
75. Marist poll just released has Clinton leading all GOP main candidates by mostly double digits, Bush by 4.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:42 PM
Sep 2015

8 more years in the WH keeping the barbarians at the gates is not to be messed up with faux internal party nonsense none of th candidates are themselves engaged in.

But keep on having fun, the GOP thanks all who attack Clinton.

September 14, 2015 by Marist Poll
Filed under Featured, National, National Poll Archive, Politics

In hypothetical general election tossups, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leads her potential Republican rivals among registered voters nationally. Clinton does best against businessman Donald Trump, leading him by 13 points. Her closest competitor, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, trails Clinton by just four points. Among Latino voters, Clinton outpaces Trump by 47 points, Cruz by 33 points, and Rubio and Bush by 30 points. President Barack Obama carried the Latino vote in 2012 over Republican nominee Mitt Romney by 44 points.

- See more at: http://maristpoll.marist.edu/914-decision-2016-clinton-leads-gop-rivals-bush-most-competitive-against-clinton/#.dpuf

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
112. And when the enemy of your enemy becomes the enemy of your friend what do you call that?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:48 PM
Sep 2015

Or is Sanders not the enemy too?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
133. Media Matters does nothing for the Left. I left it years ago. It was a
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:46 AM
Sep 2015

DLC/Third Way attempt to control the Left media. The very fact that this slimeball who nearly brought down the Clinton presidency with his lies and smears, again sneaking around to do it, was allowed to call himself a democrat caused a lot of people to wonder what was going on in this party.

He was mad at his right wing buddies and saw an opportunity at the time to get back at them by pretending to be sorry for all the harm he did, knowing the left would embrace him even if it was only to use him. And they did.

I haven't read MM for years, it doesn't have any impact at all. Fair.org is a far more credible organization.

Many of us doubted the efficacy of embracing someone as slimy as this character and now we see how right we were, not that I am surprised in the least.

And I remember his 'apology' to the Clintons and how they refused to acknowledge it after all the harm he and his low life right wing friends did to this country.

How dare HE of all people try again to influence yet another Dem election.

And anyone who tries to defend this slimeball and his sneaky actions, who remembers who he is and what he did to a Dem presidency, shocks me to be honest.

I would denounce this right wing opportunist if he was doing this on Bernie's behalf, because for one thing, all it would do is cause HARM to a candidate I support.

Now it's time to remind people of his disgusting history and you can bet it will be all over Social Media as he crawls out from behind his never convincing mask to do what he did before, because THIS time we want people of PRINCIPLE involved on all sides of this campaign.

I cannot believe ANYONE on this forum is even attempting to defend this. They sure didn't defend it when he did it before. And that only makes them look like 'we don't have any problem with slime like Brock, so long as he's doing it for our candidate'. THAT will lose Hillary the election. That I hope is not going to be HER stand.

She needs to distance herself from this moron or be associated with someone neither she nor her husband, rightfully, wanted anything to do with because they did not trust his sudden 'remorse'. Nor did most of us Democrats.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
134. And so it came to pass, even the arch-enemy of Fox gets attacked by the extreme LW. Crazy days.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:49 AM
Sep 2015

If you left Media Matters "years ago" then you left behind an ally.

And for what?

Can someone explain how attacking David Brock helps liberals? How does it even help Sanders?

Or is "liberals" just to RW for some?

Now I understand why Syriza had to let go it's extreme LW.

Their demands were based on revolution and not in reality.

Evolution over revolution, that is the choice between Clinton and Sanders.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
35. I have been impressed by Brock's work since he turned left.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:26 PM
Sep 2015

I am surprised this kind of stuff was put out by his group.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
37. It was not "his group" it was him responding to a request for comment by one Huff Post blogger.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:28 PM
Sep 2015

Has anyone posted the email, for the love of Truth?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
47. Ryan Grim at WP is one of the authors of the article.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:34 PM
Sep 2015

I would trust him myself. You could email him. At least he didn't use the "someone said" tactic.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
78. Yea its really disappointing. I remember him on Al Franken's AA show every week...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:43 PM
Sep 2015

...and really enjoyed hearing him expose the media for its bullshit. He should be ashamed. If he isn't, I'm ashamed for him.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Brock is a liberal media superhero....these distorted attacks on him are....revealing.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:18 PM
Sep 2015

What happened to attacking Clinton or "her SuperPac" directly just this morning on this faux issue?

Was that debunked and now we have THIS?

Too funny.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
34. Correct the Record is Brock's Super Pac. That is why he was questioned about
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:26 PM
Sep 2015

the email released by his Super Pac that coordinates with Hillary's campaign.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
49. it is all in the Huffington Post article......
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:36 PM
Sep 2015

and Brock has acknowledged it...on video.... and called it opposition research.

case closed.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
105. In a big way. For me, the worst part of this hit piece is slamming Bernie for negotiating to keep people
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:35 PM
Sep 2015

from freezing to death.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
51. He admitted it in the interview. "I'm just putting it out there." And HuffPo
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:39 PM
Sep 2015

reports that it came from Correct The Record.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
32. He apparently is in favor of people freezing to death,...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:26 PM
Sep 2015

Although he's likely just regurgitating Hillarys position. So much for Swiftboat The Record. They outed themselves rather quickly.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
54. And now he's lost all credibility.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:42 PM
Sep 2015

Have fun with Hill, David. You will regret your alliance with her. Mark my words.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
102. David Brock is a schmuck and he was always a schmuck. The ONLY reason
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:34 PM
Sep 2015

he turned to Dems AFTER one of the slimiest, disgusting campaigns against other human beings ever was because EVEN HIS RIGHT WING BUDDIES couldn't stand him anymore. So he tried to gain credibility on the Left, showing the man has ZERO principles, and was NEVER Trusted as people like him never are, by any decent person.

Dems let him in, because it benefited them at the time, but once a slimey, lying dirty trickster always a slimey, lying dirty trickster.

This doesn't surprise me at all, never had any time for this piece of slime and he can't even defend himself.

One good thing though, just as he helped Clinton in the end because decent people were sickened more by his nasty, gutter level creepy lies than they were by what Clinton supposedly did, he has just HELPED BERNIE more than he can know right now.

Surely there is no Dem who ever trusted that fool.

And this interview is exactly what I would expect from such a unethical moron.

Cant' even defend his actions, but then he never could, could he?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
118. Sometimes it isn't worth letting them in. Dems let him in only because
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:01 PM
Sep 2015

it was useful to do so at the time. But no one ever trusts a liar and a deceiver, and he has just proven those of us who certainly never did, to have been correct.

On the good side, as I said, the stark difference between this particular pos and Bernie Sanders only helps Bernie.

And it proves what he has always said, and continues to say, just how corrupt and corrosive our system is due to the money that flows into our electoral system.

I hope they USE this as an example, along with THIS video to expose the slime our elections are being influenced by.

And Hillary needs to condemn this, otherwise she owns it. Which is interesting because neither she nor Bill would acknowledge Brock when he apologized to them. And I completely agreed with them at the time. Apology came way too late, he helped to nearly destroy a presidency and only apologized AFTER his own far right buddies, found they even couldn't stand him.

So the decent thing for her to do would be to say 'this man in no way represents my campaign and I condemn this attack on a decent man like Sen. Sanders.

I guess we'll learn just how decent she is as a result of this.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
130. I remember those days, Sabrina 1, and Brock's dirty history...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:55 AM
Sep 2015

You are spot on.

The video in the OP shows he got caught out and he was scrambling and squirming under the questioning. I watched the show it in real time yesterday.

Money and the Power that follows is his game. Whatever he did with "Media Matters" originally has been overshadowed when he made a Super Pac to do Opposition Research for Hillary. He has two Super Pacs and has been questioned over his "Correct the Record" Pac which is allied with Hillary campaign. There was a good article on questions of whether it complies with campaign finance regulations.

That he was on "All Due Respect" touting his Book shows what a double or triple dealer he is. And, I've never trusted him, either, in his claims he had broken with his Conservative views. As you say, he made a fool of himself in front of conservatives and then saw opportunity on the left to profit. "Media Matters for America" sounded great when it started...but, it didn't take long to see the direction he was headed...in that it was all about HIM.

Sad, because we Progressive Dems have for decades now lacked a strong voice in the MSM. "Current TV" and "Air America" promised so much hope but weren't able to get enough funding to compete with the Corporate/Repub/Evangelical onslaught. But, we Progressive Dems don't need power hungry Moles doing opposition work attacking us from within our own party.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
132. I haven't been to Media Matters for years. I signed up initially, reluctantly
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:33 AM
Sep 2015

considering he was associated with it. However I always thought he was using it to get back at the Far Right, and for his own personal gain.

A lot of people whose Liberal creds were very dubious were given prominent positions controlling the New Media during those times, Kos being one of them. And made me wonder, 'don't we have any longtime, credible Progressives who could be doing this'?

Over the years though it became apparent that this was the GOAL, for the Third Way/DLC to control the 'liberal media'.

He was part of that, and several 'liberal pundits' who were groomed during the Bush era such as Ezra Klein. People like Glenn Greenwald were also around at the time, first encountered him when he was a member of DK where the Left had been lured into thinking THAT was a 'left' forum.

Greenwald was the most popular, while these other people, who at the time didn't tell members they WERE being groomed to take over the Left media, were always suspect.

They let the membership show their support for people like Greenwald and a few others, initially, had to or it would have been too obvious what was going on, then we began to see attacks on the left leaning writers.

Brock became a tool for the DLC which he was perfectly happy to do consideriing his lack of ethics etc.

And he would go right back to the far right given a 'better' opportunity.

Once a liar always a liar imo.

As I recall Media Matters received a lot of funding. Can't recall from where right now.

And I always wonder why, if the 'left' was going to fund 'left media' why would they fund someone as untrustworthy as Brock among others whose leanings were clearly not 'left'.

You had to be there watching it all, I suppose, and I happened to be a member of DK when all this was happening and being exposed.

We were fooled by what called itself 'the left' at that time, and even though a lot of people saw through it all, Bush made people go along for a while, however reluctantly.

Hillary MUST condemn these attacks, or she will suffer the consequences of being associated with a low life life sneak, going back to his old ways, the ways he went after Clinton, and reminding people of those days. Hard to IMAGINE she could set all of that aside and remain silent about this smarmy tool.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
140. Yes, I saw some of what you say...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:46 PM
Sep 2015

I remember all the way back to the great "Media Whores Online" website,"My DD," "Buzzflash," "Firedoglake" (spinoff by disatisfied Kosacks) and other early sites before the Blogs were introduced. I read at KOS early on and met him and have a signed copy of their first book when they went on book tour and appeared in my city. I drifted away from KOS when infighting started and since I was already a DU'er early on...I stayed here where there was much more activism and diversity and the format was more welcoming.

I've noticed what you have about the early young journalist/bloggers who I thought might be new Progressive or Liberal Voices gradually becoming more DLC leaning. Josh Marshall was a great new voice when he started TPM and had his "Muckraking Section" at the blog. But, times change and he became DLC Centrist as his site grew and he began to get outside funding. I saw that with others as you observed.

What a time its been and watching with frustration that our hope for a Powerful Progressive Media counterpoint to the FOX and other RW News Media Empire wasn't going to come as soon as we might have thought given our mighty efforts.

Maybe one day we will get there. Nice to share those memories. It's been an interesting time and I'm glad to have experienced it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
113. And now he is becoming
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:48 PM
Sep 2015

a disinformation warehouse himself, unfortunately, if this video is any evidence.

You can't do things like this and not stain your reputation.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
84. He answers questions the same way Clinton does
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:54 PM
Sep 2015

I couldn't help but laugh at how obvious he was. You take away what you want from the facts my ass.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
62. I've noticed that a lot of media videos do that of late
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:08 PM
Sep 2015

I'm guessing it's the "style" of the day to reinforce the message.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
10. I just can’t believe THAT SHIT just came out of the mouth of the MEDIA MATTERS founder
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:13 PM
Sep 2015

Fuck him. I will no longer donate to them.

Just another political 3 card monty game.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
15. cowardly. zero responsiblity
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:18 PM
Sep 2015

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down
That's not my department," says Wernher von Braun

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
19. Opposition research?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:19 PM
Sep 2015

So Hillary OPPOSES negotiating cheaper heating oil prices and other programs for poor and elderly people in the colder states?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
26. Yep. Hillary favors poor people freezing to death.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:22 PM
Sep 2015

That's probably a poor issue to campaign on, but she put it out there.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
60. And where did HuffPo get the 'story'?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:56 PM
Sep 2015

From an email sent them from her Super PAC that coordinates with her campaign. Since her campaign is smearing Sanders for providing discounted heating oil to poor people, the only conclusion people can draw is that she's in favor of letting poor people freeze to death.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
85. fred, did you actually watch the video? he admits to sending it, admits it was him and isn't sorry
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:56 PM
Sep 2015

I don't think HuffPo published the whole email (I could be wrong) but after he admits to the whole thing (he's showing integrity there, at any rate) why do you think it's important anymore that HuffPo didn't publish the whole email?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
79. No. It came from Huffington Post. David Brock or someone send an email to a Huffington Post
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:46 PM
Sep 2015

reporter replying to a story the reporter wrote. The reporter made the email contents public. Hillary was not involved in any way.

But that isn't juicy enough hence the story you want to tell.


snip- The email, sent to a Huffington Post reporter in response to an article about Corbyn and Sanders without any agreement that it would be off the record,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-jeremy-corbyn_55f73339e4b00e2cd5e79e11

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
86. So, tech whiz Brock 'accidently' cuts and pastes an attack on Bernie...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:57 PM
Sep 2015

Into an email reply to a reporter, with no 'off the record' agreement in place?

Stop it, y'all are killing me!

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
24. nonsense
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:22 PM
Sep 2015

he slimed Bernie with an email to HuffPost

Hillary supporters have been demanding proof that it happened, this is it

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
29. No context by Bloomberg Corporate Media means nothing to see...Never have watched or respected anything on Bloomberg.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
53. Hey, this is just very lame and out-moded damage control. Actually funny, how formulaic.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:41 PM
Sep 2015

No context! Um, yes, and Brock admits to it.
Trash the source! Okay - Bloomberg. Uh-huh.
and so on. I think it is a required response, really.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
115. It's a defense mechanism. I can't imagine how damaging it is to their psyche..
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

to watch this trainwreck happening again.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
82. The context is painfully obvious. They are talking about what Huff Po reported about Brock's PAC...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:53 PM
Sep 2015

...for Hillary and Brock does not even attempt to deny that what Huff Po reported is true.

This whole "no context" thing you are trying to push is impotent.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
21. He should be embarrassed, that was a feeble and lame smear job.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

Brock and Correct the Record have now branded themselves as Swiftboat liars, in favor of poor people freezing to death. I doubt they'll recover any credibility. All those Super PAC million$ are wasted.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
28. It looks like he never intended to be identified as the source of the smear
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

The e-mail in question was never released publicly, it was only sent to the media. It looks like Brock had hoped the media would run with the story without identifying him as the source so he could launch a smear campaign without anyone tying it to him or the Hillary campaign. Unfortunately for him the media did identify their source and the smear attempt backfired on him.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
63. Yep. HuffPo revealed that he had requested it be off the record BUT he made the request
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:14 PM
Sep 2015

WITH the email that he sent. He never sought prior agreement so they ran with it. They are not under any obligation to comply with the request.

The email flagged Corbyn's "most extreme comments" in response to a HuffPost article about the two politicians, and requested that the communication be kept off the record, though without any prior agreement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-clinton-correct-the-record_55f85058e4b09ecde1d9d374

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
71. Reminds me of Bushco feeding stories to the NYT
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

But in this case, the reporter didn't take the bait.

Makes you wonder what other emails they're sending, and to whom, that we don't know about.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
74. I respect Media Matters but Brock is total "deer in the headlights" here and deserves to be...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:41 PM
Sep 2015

...uncomfortable.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
81. In full agreement here. It's the good work of MM which makes this so much more annoying.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:48 PM
Sep 2015

He's now actively looking for ways to take down her opponents in questionable ways.

An irony, that his book "Blinded by the Right" made me more able to recognize the very techniques he himself is employing.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
124. You can change the ideology of the sleazebag,
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:08 AM
Sep 2015

but old habits die hard, especially when neoliberals get desperate. Why does corrupt ideology lead to sleazy ethics. Third Way = Scumbag.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
91. I don't mean to be shallow
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:03 PM
Sep 2015

But what is the deal with David Brock's hair? Did he inherit James Traficant's toupee?

On a more serious note, it seems like there has always been dissension between Clinton insiders. Brock already left one Super PAC and joined Correct the Record. Between Mark Penn, Sidney Blumenthal, and Lanny Davis , Clinton has some of the most odious people reprsenting her publicly.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
98. Why don't voters like Hillary Clinton?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:30 PM
Sep 2015

This is exhibit A.

This is exactly why she lost in 2008, and why she isn't going to fare any better in 2016.

Arrogant, entitled buttheads like this guy.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
104. "Standard Lee Atwater/Karl Rove opposition let's-throw-every-thing-we-
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:34 PM
Sep 2015

can-out-there-and-hope-something-sticks" procedure.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
123. an attack so weak and yet so sleazy......THIS is the guy that is going to protect her in the GE
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:49 AM
Sep 2015

It does show how very hard it is to attack Bernie, though.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
119. The Clinton's Karl Rove
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:16 PM
Sep 2015

Here who accused Anita Hill of having ulterior motives and made money off his disgusting attack on her

yet he is a liberal hero huh ?

sorry not overhere

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
143. I have never heard Brock call the President racist names no one should use in public
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:12 PM
Sep 2015

I think there is a big difference. But, I am glad you have Corny West.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
139. Does anyone recall Martin Short's "Nathan Thurm" character from SNL
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:41 PM
Sep 2015

back in the 1980s? Slimy little weasely guy, with the little round glasses, attempting to duck every single question asked of him, and attemtping to turn the question around back upon the interviewer?

Brock is absolutely that guy.

For your viewing pleasure...

https://screen.yahoo.com/nathan-thurm-tobacco-growers-america-000000071.html

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
144. Lol, what a worm. He doesn't want to reveal his Rovian 'campaign tactics'! Pssst
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015

David, we know your tactics, they are as clear as day so don't bother.

What a joke he is, and WHY is this jerk in a such prominent position in our party?

Where are the people of integrity and honesty we KNOW exist within the Dem Party?

That he is so prominent in the party only emphasizes the need to reform the party as soon as possible.

Everything we claim to abhor about the Republicans, is now viewed as okay for US to do.

Sorry, I despised the dirty tricks and smear campaign tactics of the Right, and I simply can't be so hypocritical as to approve of them when our side engages in the same tactics especially when they use an unethical person like Brock.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
146. he seems as comfortable in the slime as every other Hillary surrogate...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:14 PM
Sep 2015

he is not an outlier....he is so very compatible with the likes of Sidney Blumenthal and Lanny Davis.

I'm sure that Dick Morris, Bill Clinton's 1996 Campaign manager
would probably still be in the Clinton fold if his scandal hadn't led to his downfall.

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