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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:00 PM Sep 2015

An Open Postcard to Hillary

Dear Hillary

Don't have much time right now so I'll keep this short, besides it's kind of a simple point anyway...

Even with your not so good Summer, with the media looking for scandals to report on rather than serious issues to cover, odds still are you will win the Democratic nomination. It may not be a slam dunk anymore, but you still have lots going for you. You are really really bright, you totally know the ropes, a lot of America yearns for a chance to elect our first female President, you've earned some honest liberal creds over the year to point to, and most people still think back fondly to the last time you lived in the White House.

You still can win this thing fair and square with your honor intact. But only if you call your sleaze hounds off of Bernie. It's fine to cite your differences with him of course. You can claim that Bernie's platform is out of step with mainstream America if that is what you think - beliefs on such things do vary. But Democratic activists have a particularly low tolerance this year for hit pieces against someone who most of us believe is fighting for us whether or not he can or even should ultimately prevail to win the nomination. If you end up with the Democratic nomination, you just might want us to bust ass for your election. That kind of covers it. Think about it, OK?

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An Open Postcard to Hillary (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 OP
ok upaloopa Sep 2015 #1
My point exactly! n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #2
No it isn't upaloopa Sep 2015 #3
I do not believe that a hit piece against Sanders from a Democratic PAC Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #7
Well what you think is true is really what you upaloopa Sep 2015 #8
I agree with the latter Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #10
Funny thing. 99Forever Sep 2015 #12
Well one of us is right upaloopa Sep 2015 #14
Yes I am. 99Forever Sep 2015 #15
I will"bust ass" to save the Supreme Court from more Scaliafication. oasis Sep 2015 #4
I don't need convicing to work for the Democrat, virtually whoever... Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #5
I am confused-do you want Hillary to pay attention to Sanders or to ignore Sanders Gothmog Sep 2015 #6
Engage him openly on the issues and any differences they might have Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #9
Have you sent it to her? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #11
I bet some underling on her campagn staff checks in here Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #13

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. No it isn't
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:17 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary did not direct David Brock to write that email. Bernie would not have able to be attacked if Huffington Post would have not made it public.
Every day there must be hundreds of emails attacking candidates. Correct the record is by David Brock to support Hillary but David Brock is not Hillary
Now I know you are going to continue to push the lie that Hillary attacked Bernie because you don't have anything real to use agsinst her.
I'll see you after Super Tuesday.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
7. I do not believe that a hit piece against Sanders from a Democratic PAC
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:12 PM
Sep 2015

...one that was explicitly set up so as to be able to legally coordinate with the candidate that it supports, would have gone out without it having been run by her campaign first. Hillary may not have been personally aware - but I am convinced that her official campaign was in that loop with or without her eyeballs on it. This is a PAC with strong ties to Hillary personally - going hard negative is a major strategic decision. It begs disbelief to think it was not in any way coordinated. Sure there was the intention that folks like us would never find out who was sending out the talking points - but that doesn't change the fact that they were counting on those talking points being used against Sanders with or without their fingerprints on them.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
8. Well what you think is true is really what you
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:17 PM
Sep 2015

want the truth to be or just your opinion which a we all have one of.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
10. I agree with the latter
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:26 PM
Sep 2015

It is not what want to be true, however it is the opinion that my reading of events leaves me with - and I don't claim to have more than legitimate circumstantial evidence behind it. Circumstantial evidence is not proof positive, agreed. It remains my opinion, but not mine alone. Since Clinton's team CAN coordinate with this Super PAC they might want to coordinate about whether it reflects poorly on the Clinton brand when something like this is considered in the future.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. Funny thing.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:30 PM
Sep 2015

That's exactly what I said when Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton officially announced she was running AGAIN.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
5. I don't need convicing to work for the Democrat, virtually whoever...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:02 PM
Sep 2015

But the longer I've been around the more I've been forced to admit that genuine enthusiasm is both a wondrous and spontaneous thing. It's can't be willed and it can't be replicated by applied reason alone. And human nature really is what it is - mood effects ability, for some folks more than others. I think the vast bulk of this board will wok "hard" on the 2016 election - but I know and you know too, that it takes some people a while to shake off a grudge that stands in the way of making real personal sacrifices. If Hillary gets sucked into running an ugly campaign it will take its toll in the fall. That's just a fact.

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
6. I am confused-do you want Hillary to pay attention to Sanders or to ignore Sanders
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
Sep 2015

There is another thread from a Sanders supporter upset that the Clinton campaign is ignoring Sanders http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251601526 Which way does the Sanders people want the Clinton campaign to go? I have a feeling that Sanders will be in for some more ignoring no matter how you answer.

BTW, the attacks listed above are so very very mild compared to what the GOP and Kochs would do to Sanders. If the mere mention of Sander in an e-mail sent by a super pac that is not coordinating with the Clinton campaign is so upsetting, then what will you do when the Kochs unload several hundred million dollars of attack ads on Sanders being a socialist and the $17 trillion cost of Sander's programs. Remember, negative ads do not have to be accurate to be effective.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
9. Engage him openly on the issues and any differences they might have
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:22 PM
Sep 2015

I'm fine with that and I am also open to those making pragmatic arguments that Sanders is too far left for the electorate or whatever. But Republicans are our avowed opponents - I don't expect any of them to swing behind the Democratic nominee once the tickets are settled. When they land low blows against Hillary or Bernie it tends to stiffen our mutual resolve. This is different and you know it. Red baiting over a heating oil for the poor program, distorting that to imply a political alliance with Chavez, is ugly. Intramural ugliness comes with a price tag and Clinton's team has to know that.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
13. I bet some underling on her campagn staff checks in here
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:31 PM
Sep 2015

Now if it was a full blown open LETTER rather than a postcard it might deserve a more targetted delivery system

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