Sanders Tied for First Among Vermont Republicans

[portlander23]

Sanders Tied for First Among Vermont Republicans

According to a new poll conducted by the Castleton Polling Institute, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is tied for first place in the presidential race among Vermonters who identify as Republican or leaning Republican. The poll, conducted over the past three weeks, found that Sanders, businessman Donald Trump and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson each drew 12 percent of the GOP vote.

"He's the native son, so you expect a lot of support," institute director Rich Clark, who conducted the poll, says of Sanders. "But I didn't expect it to be as high among Republicans."

[daleanime]

1. ........

[99th_Monkey]

2. It shouldn't have been too surprising, since Bernie won last election by 71%

But this is great to hear, that they didn't or aren't supporting him ONLY because
he represents them well as Vermonters, but also believe in him to serve as POTUS
for the nation.

Now that I put it that way, ok, it is a little surprising .. and in a great way.

[riversedge]

3. 46% say they expect Clinton to win the Dem nomination, compared to 27% for Sanders.

umm..



....Overall, 48 percent of Vermonters say they hope to see Sanders in the White House — but they're not so sure it's gonna happen. Forty-six percent say they expect Clinton to win the Democratic nomination, compared to 27 percent who think Sanders will. Twenty-six percent expect former Florida governor Jeb Bush to win the Republican nomination, compared to 21 percent who think Trump will.

"Most people are saying it's going to be Clinton-Bush, like the pundits have told us," Clark says.

[restorefreedom]

5. yup, accept what the m$m spoon feeds you

thats the way to be an informed voter

[liberal_at_heart]

7. People weren't sure Obama could get win a GE either, until he did.

Bernie may not win, but he is waking the American people up to the injustices and corruption. Even if Bernie doesn't win, something has started that will lead to big things in the future that can't and won't be stopped.

[Skwmom]

9. Since it has been REPEATEDLY beat into their heads that Clinton will win, hardly a surprise.

The Clinton Machine and Cohorts: Repeat, Repeat, Repeat Hillary will win. A poll shows the majority think Hillary will win. WOW, what a surprise.

Are we stuck on stupid in this country?

[sabrina 1]

19. If it's Clinton/Bush again, the apathy we will see will be beyond anything

seen before in an election.

All those newly registered Dems for Bernie will simply stay home. On the other side, it's likely that Trump's contingency will do the same thing.

Maybe we'll finally see a 'vote of no confidence' which may be what is needed.

However, to prevent that from happening, Bernie is running so we have a chance to change this system. To get people out to vote, rather than seeing over 60% of voters deciding they are not represented.

[HooptieWagon]

4. Tied among Republicans?

Just goes to show he's unelectable. Socialist! Socialist! Oh Nos!

[OilemFirchen]

6. I thought it was, like, against the law or something to register with a party in Vermont.

[FloridaBlues]

8. Yea forgot about that have heard that over and over on this site

I always wondered how can there be a registered dem as the second senator from Vermont or registered democrats in the congress but Bernie couldn't register because they don't have that type of politicsl registration . Hum

[jeff47]

12. There isn't a registered Democrat.

Here's the Vermont voter registration form: https://www.sec.state.vt.us/media/33935/VTVoterApp.pdf

Show me where you put in party affiliation.

[jeff47]

11. :facepalm:

Here's the Vermont voter registration form: https://www.sec.state.vt.us/media/33935/VTVoterApp.pdf

Show me where you put in party affiliation.

The pollsters have this magical ability to ask questions. Guess what they do? They ask "Do you consider yourself a Republican?". Guess what the pollsters consider that person when they answer "yes".

[OilemFirchen]

13. :weirdfuckinghandmotion:

Vermont does not require party registration, but they do not prohibit it.

Let this be our little secret, eh?

[jeff47]

14. I linked the registration form. Try reading it before you look even worse.

There is literally no place on the form to put party affiliation. That means it is impossible to register as a member of a party.

[OilemFirchen]

18. Since you were the initial interlocutor:

NO state in the U.S. requires voter registration by party. Did I say anything about voter registration?

SOME states require party ID for the purposes of voting in caucuses, primaries and/or participating in conventions. ALL of these states accommodate party registration and/or changes to party registration at some point prior to or at the time of an election.

Other responders can take heed.

[jeff47]

20. And where do you do that registration in VT?

And keep in mind there are Vermont residents telling you that you are wrong. Feel free to show how people who actually live in the state don't know what they are talking about.

[OilemFirchen]

21. OK. "Registration" was ham-fisted.

That should read identification. There's no way (or need) for me to "register" for the Democratic Party in Ohio, but I'm a Democrat. Nothing has prevented me from identifying as such... just like in every other state of the Union.

The key here is this laughable attempt to claim that it's somehow "illegal" for a voter (or candidate) to be associated with a party in Vermont - as alluded to just yesterday (again) by the Sanders camp itself. They use the same subterfuge that there's no way to register to vote by party, as if that's germane. It's not, nor is it unique or even unusual.

Wanna "belong" to a political party in Vermont? Here are a few options:

http://www.vtdemocrats.org/
http://vtgop.org/

BTW, Vermont's current governor Peter Shumlin (a Democratic Party "member&quot went through a rather grueling Democratic Governor's Primary. A what you say? Unpossible!

[jeff47]

22. The illegal claim is yours.

What everyone else is pointing out to you is that there is no way to actually do it.

So yes, it was quite laughable when you made the illegal claim. You should stop doing that.

What's also laughable is you are now claiming there are no political parties in Vermont, as demonstrated by this dumb-ass statement:

BTW, Vermont's current governor Peter Shumlin (a Democratic Party "member&quot went through a rather grueling Democratic Governor's Primary. A what you say? Unpossible!

You know how you enter the Democratic primary in Vermont? You say "I'd like to run as a Democrat" and the Vermont Democratic party says "Ok".

You know how you vote in the Democratic primary in Vermont? You ask for the Democratic ballot on primary day.

You are desperately shoving words into other people's mouths in order to make a really, really, really stupid argument. You should stop doing that before you look even worse.

[OilemFirchen]

23. "Legally impossible for Sanders to reg as a Dem. VT has no party registration"

From the Sanders campaign yesterday. Read it however you prefer.

I claimed that there are "no political parties in Vermont"? Da fuq? Most of the post to which you're responding notes that there are political parties in Vermont. I even linked to two.

[jeff47]

27. Legally impossible and illegal are different things.

"There's no place to check "D" on the form" = Legally Impossible.
"You will be sent to prison if you try to register as a Democrat" = Illegal.

I claimed that there are "no political parties in Vermont"? Da fuq?

Then what was your point when talking about the Democratic primary for governor in Vermont? You brought that up as a "gotcha" to show that there are political parties and primaries in Vermont.

Thus deftly refuting a claim only you made. Also known as incinerating your strawman.

[OilemFirchen]

31. "Legally impossible" vs. "Impossible" is an intentional distraction.

The rest of your post made no sense. Sorry.

[Cali_Democrat]

24. How is Senator Patrick Leahy a Democrat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Leahy

Personal details
Born Patrick Joseph Leahy
March 31, 1940 (age 75)
Montpelier, Vermont, U.S.
Political party Democratic
Spouse(s) Marcelle Pomerleau
Children 3

[jeff47]

25. By him saying "I am a Democrat".

Golly, that was really hard!

[Cali_Democrat]

26. Why the snark? nt

[jeff47]

28. Because that is my natural reaction to stupid

And all of the arguments about "register as a Democrat" are drenched in stupid.

[Cali_Democrat]

29. I was asking a simple question because I'm not familiar wth Vermont and party affiliation

Sorry for asking a stupid question.

Please forgive me.

[OilemFirchen]

33. This all stems from the "special" election laws in Vermont which "prevent" Sanders...

from "becoming" a Democrat.

Despite the fact that they aren't unique at all, and nothing about them prevents Sanders from doing just that.

[karynnj]

15. there is nowhere to put a party

My husband and I registered here in VT in December 2012. Very short form.

[mak3cats]

17. A Vermonter can join any party as a member,

but it has nothing to do with voting registration - there is no registration by party.

https://www.sec.state.vt.us/elections/frequently-asked-questions/voter-registration.aspx

8.
Do I have to register as a Democrat, Republican, Independent or some other party in Vermont?

No. There is no party registration in Vermont.

All registered voters can vote in the primary election—but can only vote on one ballot. You will be given a ballot for each of the major parties. You mark one of the ballots and put the remaining unvoted ballots into a discard bin. Which ballot you chose to vote is private and not recorded (except during the presidential primary, where voters must publicly take one ballot or the other, and their choice is recorded on the entrance checklist).

[NuclearDem]

10. If Clinton polled with those kinds of numbers among Republicans

Well, you know what the response would be.

[Cali_Democrat]

30. Surely DUers would be happy for Clinton like they are for Bernie. nt

[bunnies]

16. He bests Hillary 65 - 14 with Dems.

[Marrah_G]

32. They like him because he stands up for the small farmers