What Is Hillary’s Greatest Accomplishment?

[leftofcool]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157?o=1



Now, stick this up your bum, Carley!

[Cheese Sandwich]

1. Negotiating the TPP. That was huge

Negotiating the Keystone XL Pipeline another big accomplishment

[randys1]

2. that was fast

[Cheese Sandwich]

5. How is that bash?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

45. I think he is a fan of the Linux Bourne Again shell, aka BASH.

I don't blame him--it's the most widely deployed command interpreter for Linux. but I keep seeing him do this in Clinton-related threads. Odd.

[Ichigo Kurosaki]

6. Like

Gaddafi was a threat to us.......
Now look at the chaos.

[sabrina 1]

16. He was only a threat to the Oil Cartels. That's been fixed, and NATO's 'humanitarian'

mission to 'save' the Libyan people has disappeared. Libya is now like something from a futuristic horror movie, going from one of the most developed African nations to a place of horror.

But the oil is safe from the Libyan people.

Where did all the cheer leaders for the Libyan 'humanitarian' mission go? We used to get daily updates on the beauty of it all? And those of us who dared to oppose it were trashed on a daily basis for PREDICTING the current situation.

[cheapdate]

32. The Keystone XL isn't really much of an "accomplishment".

It's been almost two years since TransCanada applied for approval from the State Department, and so far, no approval has been given. Neither by Secretary Clinton's department, nor by Secretary Kerry's department.

[corkhead]

3. She kept her marriage together

[leftofcool]

8. You obviously did not go to the link.

Typical and predictable response. I guess you agree with Carley.............that Hillary never accomplished anything.

[leveymg]

4. It's a toss-up between Libya and Syria.

Both places are now tossed. Thank you, Madam Secretary and Director Petraeus. Missions Accomplished.

[SonderWoman]

15. Syria? Obama is CIC.

And went in the complete opposite direction she recommended.

[leveymg]

17. The President graciously accepted Hillary's resignation and fired Petraeus. It was State and CIA

that spearheaded the failed serial "humanitarian" regime change operations in Libya and Syria. It's a matter of record that it was HRC and Petraeus within the Administration who pushed this misguided policy, which Obama finally put the brakes on after Amb. Stevens was killed and the operation blown.

It's to Obama's credit that he went in a completely different direction, otherwise Damascus would be the capital of the Islamic State right now.

[Motown_Johnny]

49. Then why can she claim credit for START with Russia or

renewing ties with Myanmar?

Obama is CIC. Wasn't she just doing what he and his policies dictated his SOS do?

[Cheese Sandwich]

7. Honduras was a real coup

[mcar]

9. K&R

[sibelian]

10. Being a very special lady...

...it seems.

Yeah, I read the link. I see a great deal of information about her character, not an awful lot about accomplishments.

[Mike Nelson]

11. I like her Iran work, near the end on the link...

...Obama and Hillary helped make the world safer. I believe the Republicans would have led us into a major war with Iran - and one much more deadly than Iraq.

[GitRDun]

12. I love this thread

Excellent information about real accomplishments with the added bonus of being able to see the Sanders supporter id sprinkled all over it.

She could find the cure for cancer and some Sanders supporters would criticize her for failing to cure heart disease.....

Love it. Thanks for the post!

[cheapdate]

13. Many, but by no means all, of Hillary's major accomplishments

are listed well in the Politico article. She made outstanding efforts to elevate the discussion of women's issues around the world during her tenure at the State Department.

She is an extraordinarily focused, tenacious, and intelligent person.

She has what I'll call a "traditional" perspective on the innate goodness of Western liberal democratic political values -- which makes her something of an expansionist in foreign policy. I have my differences with her on this and several other matters, but I have great respect for her nonetheless.

[sabrina 1]

18. Women around the world, particularly in the nations we have invaded and/or droned

under the guise of 'fighting terror' are far worse off now since the neo-liberal/con War policies went into effect with the support of many Dems.

I truly wish people would actually LISTEN to the women who at one time, in Iraq eg, actually had rights women here still don't have, equal pay eg.


But we don't listen to those women. We send people around the world to TELL THEM how much we are helping them.

They are crying out to us to STOP starting wars in their countries.

The women of Iraq once highly educated and professional women, are now under the thumb of the extremists we let loose in their country.

Please, going around the world TALKING about how great we are, while ignoring the horrors women have endured due to those same policies Hillary voted for, makes people wonder just how much 'women' actually matter at all.

The reports on the plight of the women in those nations has been reported over the years by World Organizations. There really is no excuse for not KNOWING what has happened to them.

[jeff47]

27. Forget that actual consequences crap!

The discussions were elevated!!!

[cheapdate]

31. You can casually dismiss the work Hillary Clinton has done,

both in and out of her role as U.S. Secretary of State on behalf of women throughout the world as if none of it was anything but useless and meaningless gestures.

But the fact is that the conferences, summits, meetings, and events that she tirelessly organized, attended, and particpated in, in country after country, brought together and gave voice and strength to thousands of individual women, activists, and activist groups around the world. That's a fact.

So laugh it off, dismiss it, or deny it as you will. But I give her credit. Hillary Clinton isn't my favorite politician -- we're worlds apart in many important ways. But I'll grant her the presumption of good faith, and more so, I'll recognize where she and I have agreement -- such as on the question of women's rights here and around the world.

[SonderWoman]

14. Fighting AIDS in Africa.

[TheFarS1de]

35. Bare knuckle or gloves ?

eom.

[McCamy Taylor]

19. Peace in Northern Ireland

[AtomicKitten]

22. You forgot the sarcasm tag.

Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims
link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1581150/Nobel-winner-Hillary-Clintons-silly-Irish-peace-claims.html

Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province.

'I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don’t want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."

Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.

"I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," she told CNN on Wednesday. But negotiators from the parties that helped broker the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 told The Daily Telegraph that her role was peripheral and that she played no part in the gruelling political talks over the years.

Lord Trimble shared the Nobel Peace Prize with John Hume, leader of the nationalist Social Democratic and Labour Party, in 1998. Conall McDevitt, an SDLP negotiator and aide to Mr Hume during the talks, said: "There would have been no contact with her either in person or on the phone. I was with Hume regularly during calls in the months leading up to the Good Friday Agreement when he was taking calls from the White House and they were invariably coming from the president."

<snip>

In her memoir Living History, Clinton recounts her teapot speech and several other anecdotes about her visits to Ireland and Northern Ireland, but there's little in the book to indicate that she played a key role.

[beam me up scottie]

25. Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly"...

Nicely done!

[AtomicKitten]

26. Can hardly believe they're rolling out that bullpucky again.

[beam me up scottie]

28. Did you see her op this morning?

Next thing you know she'll be giving her credit for ending Apartheid in South Africa.

[AtomicKitten]

29. She cured my lumbago!

Had to ferret out the OP you are referring to.

My initial reaction:

and then:

[beam me up scottie]

30. LOL!

She cured my split ends!

Anyone who can do that gets my vote!

[TheFarS1de]

36. Nope.

Bullshit detector just went right off.

[leftofcool]

41. Are you calling Obama a bullshitter? He was just talking about this not long ago.

So was John Kerry.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. Convincing some people that she'd make a competent president.

Of course, some of us remain unconvinced.

[TheFarS1de]

37. Sorry.

But they want to promote the things Hillary CAN achieve . On the convincing part she is failing....again .

[left-of-center2012]

21. First Lady of Arkansas

Married to the guy who was the Gov.

[bigwillq]

23. How she rocks a pant suit

You go, Gurl!

[AtomicKitten]

24. She gets an A+ in obfuscation.

[Gloria]

33. Being a key figure in the establishment of micro-lending plans in

underdeveloped countries so women there could help their families survive and thrive.


Oh, that doesn't count...I forgot!

[Comrade Grumpy]

34. Yes, she has some achievements and has done some good things.

But she's still too war hawkish and corporate-cozy for me.

[demmiblue]

38. This is not snark... her daughter.

As it is, as it has always been.

[restorefreedom]

39. in the spirit of fair play, i will offer one

standing in front of the world on chinese soil and calling them out on their atrocious treatment of women and girls.

there is an analagous bernie accomplishment thread around. i invite you to share your fave bernie accomplishment.

[leftofcool]

40. Bernie and Veterans. He is really good with our Vets

That is something dear to my heart.

[restorefreedom]

43. i like that about him too

[anamnua]

42. What will Hillary do when Bernie is nominated?

Exercising phenomenal self-control and stoicism during the Lewinsky scandal.

[leftofcool]

47. Another pathetic right wing post

[cherokeeprogressive]

44. Miles traveled as SoS?

[TheKentuckian]

46. Development of the keen reflexes required to dodge sniper fire.

[delrem]

48. The destruction of Libya.

Nothing else comes close.