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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:42 AM Sep 2015

Why Is Bernie Sanders So Silent On Hate Toward Muslims?

Why Is Bernie Sanders So Silent On Hate Toward Muslims?

After a week filled with Islamophobia, it's time for Sanders to take a stand.

By Zaid Jilani / AlterNet September 18, 2015


You would think that insurgent progressive candidate Bernie Sanders would be the one to speak up for the plight of Muslims. He is, after all, a genuinely anti-establishment figure with a strong history of supporting civil rights. But if Bernie Sanders even noticed this week’s spree of anti-Muslim hatred, he isn’t showing it. He didn’t offer any invitations to his Senate office, or deliver any tweets. He rarely speaks about Islamophobia on the campaign trail, and foreign policy merits barely a mention in his speeches.

When he does talk about Islam, it comes off as clumsy and ill-prepared, as if the senator has no knowledegable advisors on Islam or foreign policy.


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-bernie-sanders-so-silent-hate-toward-muslims
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Why Is Bernie Sanders So Silent On Hate Toward Muslims? (Original Post) workinclasszero Sep 2015 OP
So...why is a Clinton supporter pointing this out? PatrickforO Sep 2015 #1
And to the detriment of their own candidate. Aerows Sep 2015 #9
Its a legit news story? Like I didn't make it up LOL workinclasszero Sep 2015 #12
It's not a news story Mnpaul Sep 2015 #43
I want to know why Sanders is so silent about Space Aliens padfun Sep 2015 #2
He hates Muslims so much Aerows Sep 2015 #5
Yep. I have noticed that too. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #31
Why is Hillary Clinton So Silent On Hate Toward Muslims? Aerows Sep 2015 #3
LOL! Trying to derail a good thread, like a good little Bernie Supporter! MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #17
Oh come on now... Aerows Sep 2015 #19
this. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #26
please proceed, indeed. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #36
I love the sound of tone deaf fools in the morning. 99Forever Sep 2015 #40
Didn't Hilary supporters watch the Late show? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #4
I find it absolutely hilarious Aerows Sep 2015 #6
"He hates black people" won't work anymore. They didn't expect that and this is the impromptu plan D arcane1 Sep 2015 #21
Is this part of Hillary's "how she can keep the white vote" plan? Skwmom Sep 2015 #7
"Silent" like this? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #8
No, Bernie should love them more like this. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #10
He's got to tweet louder AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #11
^^^ This ^^^ is your answer, workinclasszero. senz Sep 2015 #13
Another contrived issue for those who are not paying attention. n/t slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #14
This thread is an example of the ol' GOP divide and conquer strategy. senz Sep 2015 #15
Personally, I wouldn't try to read too much into it. cheapdate Sep 2015 #16
You support a woman who "will not hesitate to use military force" against them. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #18
Why is Sanders so quiet on broccoli hate? Nt HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #20
Not even Bernie could get me to love broccoli! BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #23
Maybe George Clooney? CTyankee Sep 2015 #45
Stop it. You're just casting asparagus now. n/t Oilwellian Sep 2015 #42
He isn't AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #22
BS, he has spoken out against Hate towards Muslims JI7 Sep 2015 #24
It's in his stump speech, Sanders either doesn't usually react to news stories HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #33
How many times has he said, if we stand united we can win ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #25
he isn't. but thanks for the dishonest smear. cali Sep 2015 #27
Here's what that same author had to say about Hillary... Ino Sep 2015 #28
Oh for fucks sake Marrah_G Sep 2015 #29
Why is Bernie so silent on the plight of eight track player aficionados? Android3.14 Sep 2015 #30
l.o freakin l. !!! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #37
2 words: Big Cassette. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #47
Spoken like a true Hillary supporter Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #32
priorities and messaging alc Sep 2015 #34
why did hillary vote for an unjustified war against muslims? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #35
Why Is Bernie Sanders So Silent On Bagpipe Music? left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #38
So, this week it's "Bernie hates Muslims?" Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #39
He's not. Plus I have to assume the OP is not a member of any group frequently subject to bias Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #41
He's not. LWolf Sep 2015 #44
He's only silent to those who have no interest in listening to what he is saying. Autumn Sep 2015 #46
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. And to the detriment of their own candidate.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:53 AM
Sep 2015

One would think this isn't the can of worms they really want to open.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Its a legit news story? Like I didn't make it up LOL
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:59 AM
Sep 2015

And not from a right wing source like most of the anti-Clinton stuff thats posted here 24/7.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. Why is Hillary Clinton So Silent On Hate Toward Muslims?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:46 AM
Sep 2015

Oh wait, she isn't.

She's on board with bombing their countries and putting more American lives on the line.

If this is what you are choosing to bash Bernie Sanders with, you chose the wrong topic to do it with.

But please, proceed, Governor.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
17. LOL! Trying to derail a good thread, like a good little Bernie Supporter!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:08 AM
Sep 2015

Not leading the effort to destroy a country and kill hundreds of thousands of people is nothing compared to a well-crafted Muslim outreach policy.

Don't tell anyone, but we're reprising this:



but with women in burkas.

Regards,

TWM

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. Oh come on now...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:20 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary just voted:



Everybody knows that it was about freedom in the Iraq and such as. Maps, I think we have a lack of maps. And such as.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
40. I love the sound of tone deaf fools in the morning.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:26 AM
Sep 2015

It goes great with the smell of desperation from inevitable campaigns gone off the rail.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. I find it absolutely hilarious
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:49 AM
Sep 2015

that this is something they are trying to attack Bernie Sanders with.

But hey, if they are in this particular hole and want to continue digging, I won't interrupt them.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
21. "He hates black people" won't work anymore. They didn't expect that and this is the impromptu plan D
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:33 AM
Sep 2015

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
7. Is this part of Hillary's "how she can keep the white vote" plan?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:50 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Since Bernie has no chance, why are so many people going after Bernie?

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
15. This thread is an example of the ol' GOP divide and conquer strategy.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:05 AM
Sep 2015

Too bad certain supporters can't find any admirable traits in their own candidate so they could be positive about something. For a change.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
16. Personally, I wouldn't try to read too much into it.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:05 AM
Sep 2015

Sander's record of supporting civil liberties is easily the strongest of any candidate in the race.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
33. It's in his stump speech, Sanders either doesn't usually react to news stories
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:27 AM
Sep 2015

or the media isn't picking up such comments. Sanders is getting a pretty cold shoulder from the media.

On the other hand Clinton's campaign regularly reacts to the news in a captain obvious sort of way. Its pretty easy to find her comments on stories where public sentiment is quite clear and she can link to it with a 'me too'.

Yet, she won't talk about things like Keystone, and TPP

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
25. How many times has he said, if we stand united we can win ...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:32 AM
Sep 2015

can you at least pretend to pay attention!

Does the Hillary campaign really seek to divide along religious lines? This is what Trump is doing, do you want to continue this division with the Clinton logo?



 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. he isn't. but thanks for the dishonest smear.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:21 AM
Sep 2015

Bernie demanded an apology from Trump. When? This week.


Bernie Sanders demands Donald Trump apologize over anti-Muslim question


https://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/sanders-demands-trump-apology-over-anti-muslim-question/

Ino

(3,366 posts)
28. Here's what that same author had to say about Hillary...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:43 AM
Sep 2015

Zaid Jilani tweeted on Sept. 18...
https://twitter.com/zaidjilani

Hillary only stands by Muslims when its convenient, when it's convenient to use them against a candidate she is quick to do so

Let's not forget that it was Team Hillary that started questioning Obama's faith, patriotism


Sept 17...
Zaid Jilani... Hillary already wrote a love letter to Israeli megadonor Haim Saban. We don't expect much from her. But @BernieSanders we expect more
Aisha... If HRC is the only one on our side, I think we're doomed. I'm not sure if she'll defend Muslims after election.
Zaid Jilani... Dear @BernieSanders, Muslims are being demonized in the same way people of your faith, Judaism, were for ages. Speak up. Love, a fan.


alc

(1,151 posts)
34. priorities and messaging
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:33 AM
Sep 2015

No candidate can take a stand on every issue every voter is interested in. Even if it's the hot issue of the week that's 52 issues over a year and voters will say they don't know what is important to that candidate he/she takes that many stands. And, "taking a stand" means putting in a significant amount of effort to make sure what you think isn't twisted or misinterpreted. It's very easy to "come off as clumsy and ill-prepared" if you don't think through, not only your position but the message you and your surrogates deliver.

Better to take a stand on the issues that are most important to the candidate and answer questions on other topics and let voters judge how the "stands" along with less-thought-through answers will translate into the issues each voter thinks is most important.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
35. why did hillary vote for an unjustified war against muslims?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:17 AM
Sep 2015

a war which has had a devastating human and financial toll, upset the balance of power between sunni and shia muslims, destabilized the entire region, and helped isis come to power, a development resulting in untold muslim (and all religions) suffering?

and that is just for starters.....

are you sure this is a string you want to pull on?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
38. Why Is Bernie Sanders So Silent On Bagpipe Music?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:22 AM
Sep 2015

I've never heard him address whether he likes or dislikes bagpipes.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
39. So, this week it's "Bernie hates Muslims?"
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:22 AM
Sep 2015

Well, I have to give it to you guys, you sure know how to change it up. Notice nothing's stuck, but you all keep tryin'.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
41. He's not. Plus I have to assume the OP is not a member of any group frequently subject to bias
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:28 AM
Sep 2015

crimes. The OP wants rhetoric that is not helpful and which is not supported by the communities in the US which are most often victims of crimes motivated by bias against them.
Some perspective: Bias crimes in the US according to the FBI, break down in this way: the largest number of bias crimes against person are race based, and 60% of the victims of those race based bias crimes are black. African Americans get the worst of it. There are about 3,600 such crimes a year The next largest group of bias crimes are those motivated by bias against a person's sexuality. There are about 1,600 such crimes a year.

The third largest group of bias crimes are those motivated by bias against the victim's religion. There are about 1,300 such crimes making the FBI official list each year. Of those crimes, the religious group most often victim to bias crimes are Jewish people, who are victim of about 60% of the religious bias crimes. Muslims get about 15% of such crimes.

All bias crimes are bad. Not just some of them. All bias crimes are done by criminals. None are done by representatives of their communities.

But statistically, it is Bernie Sanders who comes from the religious group most often subjected to bias crimes in the US so it is odd to claim that he is the candidate who is least aware of such bias crimes and generalized bigotries. Very odd. Dubious in fact.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
44. He's not.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:41 PM
Sep 2015

Perhaps you, and Zaid Jilani, just aren't listening when he speaks.

For example:

The ridiculous arrest of Ahmed and awful comments at @realDonaldTrump's rally show us we must stand strong against anti-Muslim bigotry.

https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/644932486225637376

and

Sanders went on to tweet, "this nonsense has got to end."

"Let’s stop the racism. Let’s stop the xenophobia," he added.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-clinton-trump-anti-muslim_55fc156ce4b08820d9184006

It took me 10 seconds to find these references; there are more. AND, there are Muslims supporting Sanders. Apparently, they're feelin' the Bern, not hearing any silence.

https://www.facebook.com/Muslims-for-Bernie-Sanders-2016-871716006255448/timeline/

Autumn

(45,058 posts)
46. He's only silent to those who have no interest in listening to what he is saying.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:49 PM
Sep 2015

I hate to be the bearer of bad news and burst anyone's bubble but he already took a stand.

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